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The conservative Supreme Court continues to deliver. Yesterday they ended Affirmative Action in college admissions programs. Weirdly, the judges in the dissenting opinions seemed to be arguing that without AA, the same colleges fighting to keep AA in place would choose to discriminate against blacks. How does that work? Of course, they completely ignored Asians, another minority, who were denied admission due to their race!

Today the court struck down Biden's student loan program which is actually not debt relief, it is responsibility relief. Biden apparently has a new scheme he will introduce today to buy off the votes of college students in debt.

And just a little while ago the Supreme Court through out the Colorado law that would force a website designer to design websites that conflict with her religious beliefs. The Court opinions also ended the non-stop legal attacks on the Colorado baker who refused to bake cakes for gay weddings and transgender events.

That Trump and Mitch McConnell, yes, that Mitch McConnell, for these decisions.

What is striking to me is how the 3 liberals justices in their dissents completely ignored the constitution in favor of silly hypotheticals. They seemed to be arguing that feelings are more important than the constitution itself.

Simply put the court affirmed that using race to decide college admissions is unlawful. They affirmed that a the President does not have unlimited powers even in an emergency, and that government cannot compel speech. Forcing speech is not free speech. It has been a good week so far.
 
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Creeper said:
The Court opinions also ended the non-stop legal attacks on the Colorado baker who refused to bake cakes for gay weddings and transgender events.
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I'm torn on this. I think his stance is asinine and he blew a chance to display the grace, love & mercy that should be the primary focus of his faith but I also believe he has the right to believe whatever he wants

On the other side, why would you want a cake from someone with this stance?

Also, we dont allow people to discriminate (rightly I might add) at restaurants, bars, hotels, etc on the basis of race, right?

So if a diner cannot deny their tasty pancakes to a customer who is black, asian, etc, why is it ok to deny service because they're gay?

Its just a gross, awkward & unnecessarily strident thing to do imo and not a good look for his faith nor what I believe that faith requires of us, ymmv...
 
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I'm torn on this. I think his stance is asinine and he blew a chance to display the grace, love & mercy that should be the primary focus of his faith but I also believe he has the right to believe whatever he wants

On the other side, why would you want a cake from someone with this stance?

Also, we dont allow people to discriminate (rightly I might add) at restaurants, bars, hotels, etc on the basis of race, right?

So if a diner cannot deny their tasty pancakes to a customer who is black, asian, etc, why is it ok to deny service because they're gay?

Its just a gross, awkward & unnecessarily strident thing to do imo and not a good look for his faith nor what I believe that faith requires of us, ymmv...
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The case was not based on his denial of service to the gay or transgender couples. He told the gay couple he would bake then another cake. What he refused to do is use his creative and artistic skills to create a pro-gay marriage or pro-transgender message on the cakes. The Colorado bake has never denied regular service to gays or anyone else.

This is strictly a case of one's constitutional rights conflicting with another's. He has a right to his religious beliefs and the Supreme Court correctly ruled that Colorado cannot force him to express a thought that conflicts with his own religious beliefs.

I do agree with you. The gays and transgenders should just go to another baker, but it is clear they selected him to use the Colorado law to punish him.
 
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Should a black web designer be able to refuse to design a website for the KKK?

I think it will be amusing, when, in a year or so, the overall numbers of blacks and Hispanics entering colleges and universities doesn't decrease, but increases...
 
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Should a black web designer be able to refuse to design a website for the KKK?

I think it will be amusing, when, in a year or so, the overall numbers of blacks and Hispanics entering colleges and universities doesn't decrease, but increases...
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IMO, yes. I think the owner of a business should be able to set a standard for his business. People can choose to patronize his business or go somewhere else. I would never turn away business because I think it is stupid to cut your potential market down but that's just me. Freedom is about having choices.

The AA argument is stupid. Basically those supporting AA are arguing that the most far left segment of our society will reject black students based on race unless they are forced to accept them. Perhaps they know liberals better than the rest of us?
 
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Much Crying over the SCOTUS... :D
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It would really help if these commentators actually read the opinions of the majority before going on TV and making stupid comments that aren't true. First, the web designer ruling does not mean a business can discriminate against protected classes. What the courts said is the state government cannot compel someone to make an expression that conflicts with their religious beliefs. And it also means the KKK cannot force a black baker to decorate a cake with racist expressions. It is odd to me that the left thinks this ruling is so harmful when they were the ones banning the confederate flag and tearing down statues of figures they don't like. If they are so offended by these symbols that they want them banished from everywhere, why can't they understand that gay weddings are equally offensive to people with deeply held religious beliefs?

And why should only protected classes be able to force businesses to do something against their will. It is still legal for a business to not serve Trump supporters, for example. And how about banks not doing business with the NRA? The left is hypocritical.

Finally, like all liberals they simply do not understand the Supreme Court's role in these cases. The Supreme Court is there to ensure the country operates according to the constitution. They are supposed to rule on the law, not on feelings or some liberals misguided ideas of what our society should look like. If they don't like the laws then work to change them, that is how the government functions. If laws mean nothing to justices, they they shouldn't mean anything to the people either.
 
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