yimyammer
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Where did I ever say that? (bolded part). I'm a HUGE proponent of the death penalty, we should be using it far more than we do and if we did, crime would greatly be curtailed.
Dont patronize me with bullshit like what's going on in England and what they are locking people up for and somehow try to make a correlation with what this batshit crazy woman just said. A massive company's CEO was just murdered in the streets and wrote the same words on shell casings that she regurgitated and then said "you're next", that's a far cry from some Joe Blow guy saying "this government sux because they import too many terrorists". One is free speech, the other is a legitimate THREAT and was on the tails of something that literally JUST HAPPENED.
I know you're smarter than this. I'm a 100% free speech guy, telling somebody on a recorded line that "you're next" after another health company's CEO was just murdered is NOT a free speech issue. The woman is either stupid as hell or fucking nuts, and in todays day and age you have to take this stuff seriously.
here's what you said in post #3,132:
Scum sucking traitors, all of them.
Of course they want the pardon, behind the scenes I am sure him, Cheney, Peolosi, Schiff, Fauci and dozens others are BEGGING for a parson. They all know they are guilty of sin of treason and in Fauci's case, also crimes against humanity. Every one of them 100% deserve the death penalty.
I'm not saying you should be locked up and I know what you're saying when you made this comment (the death penalty implies due process, etc) but you know damn well there are people that would make a similar argument you're making against this woman toward you in order to create a power structure to punish people for what they say
settle down there hombre, I'm not trying to patronize you (maybe I did accidentally) and I'm not saying I'm right on this, I just lean hard toward free speech because most people are too damn sensitive about words and will use a precedent like this to try and lock people up for "misgendering", "misinformation", etc. Just look at what the lunkheads at your favorite cowboy forum do with their power
People talk a lot of shit, you do it all the time and you have the right to do so without fear of being locked up. I think this lady was just upset and decided to talk shit because she was pissed off, kind of like we've heard people do when they say "I hope you die!" etc in a state of rage. Her statement could easily be her talking shit in a rage implying its treatment like she's getting that leads people to do what Luigi did thus "you're next" but in no way meant she was going to do actually anything.
I agree the times and recent murder demand vigilance but lets not accidentally do more harm than good in our haste to try and prevent the next Luigi so thats where I'm coming from. You know damn well the leftist loons would love to have incarceration for speech they find unacceptable in their arsenal and I dont want anyone to ever have that, regardless of party.
Guess I'm jaded from always being told "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"
The people I find most threatening are the ones you never hear a peep from until its too late
I admit I'm on the extreme absolute end of free speech but am open to hearing ideas of how best to handle situations like this.
This example in GB strikes me as an over-reach given I've been called racist for merely not accepting a view expressed by a minority:
Man convicted of intending to stir up racial hatred after posting online
06 August 2024
A man who posted messages on Facebook about attacking a hotel where asylum seekers were housed has been convicted of using threatening words or behaviour to stir up racial hatred.
Jordan Parlour, 28, made the online comments advocating an attack on a hotel in Leeds, and the posts were reported to police.
The hotel manager put the building into lockdown on Saturday, 3 August due to the disorder in Leeds, and at least one window was broken after stones were thrown over the weekend.
There was no evidence that Parlour attended the hotel.
The Attorney General provided consent today to prosecute in accordance with Section 27 of the Public Order Act 1986.
This is the first conviction for posting online in relation to the public disorder.
Parlour pleaded guilty at Leeds Magistrates’ Court today and was remanded in custody ahead of his sentence at Leeds Crown Court on Friday, 9 August.
Nick Price, Director of Legal Services at the Crown Prosecution Service, said:"I want to be absolutely clear, anyone involved in inciting this thuggish behaviour will face severe consequences.
"Parlour advocated violence through his online posts and risked the safety of those staying at the hotel.
"The CPS will continue to act swiftly and robustly regarding these cases and ensure those responsible for such deplorable criminality are brought to justice."