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While I'm not sure how you objectively measure amount of offense taken by the use of a given word, I think you're partly right. There are words that other races take offense to, but I don't think there's another word that is "as offensive" as this one.

You are contradicting yourself. You say you can’t measure the amount of offense, then you do exactly that by saying this word is the most offensive. Why is this word more offensive than the others? I don’t disagree with your stance, i just seen an unbalanced playing field.
 

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Someone on the Fan had a good point this morning: Cooper is getting more heat for this than he would for a domestic abuse case.

What he did was very stupid, but it's kind of sad that there's more hate over this than there would be if he'd beaten up a woman.


I agree.
 

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Someone on the Fan had a good point this morning: Cooper is getting more heat for this than he would for a domestic abuse case.

What he did was very stupid, but it's kind of sad that there's more hate over this than there would be if he'd beaten up a woman.

Or killed a teammate in a drunk driving incident.
 

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It's really not for you to tell him how to deal with it. You have a right to say what you want, he has the right to feel how he wants.


I have a right to judge him about how he reacts, though. And imo, McCoy is living in a great big glass house.
 

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Poor example. There is no possible way a man can give birth. But anybody can be hit with a racial slur. Gook, slope, honky, cracker, wetback, or whatever. So yeah, while there is no possible way a man could know what childbirth is like, they could know what it feels like to be discriminated against. Who is anybody to say which one is worse? Black people had it bad, sure. So did Indians. So did Jews. Etc...

Hell, no one had it worse than the Indians.
 

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And btw, it was a Kenny Chesney concert for fuck's sake. He was clearly referring to white people.

Why are people so upset about this? He wasn't directing it towards any Afro Americans.


Actually, he was talking to a black security guard.
 

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His own teammate, someone who should know as a black person, Cary Williams had this to say about the double standard...

And it was perfect.

“[A]t the end of the day, we look at . . . rap artists [and] some people in the locker room, that word gets tossed around. And what I think about my grandmother and my great-grandmother having to endure being called that name . . . . We as a black community sometimes pounce on somebody who uses it in a derogatory way when there are times in the black community when we use it freely. I think there’s no place for that word in anybody’s language, in anybody’s mouth or off anybody’s tongue, whether you’re black, white, green, purple, blue. It’s still the same meaning, it’s still a harsh word.”

So instead of people like Nutter using this as a source for positive change, it is just an excuse to perpetuate the very same under the surface racism that bubbles up whenever people want to get all socially conscious and feign shock, amazement and disgust.
 

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With a dumb ass mayor like that Philadelphia has to be a real shithole.
 

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You are contradicting yourself. You say you can’t measure the amount of offense, then you do exactly that by saying this word is the most offensive. Why is this word more offensive than the others? I don’t disagree with your stance, i just seen an unbalanced playing field.
It is more offensive because it is defined and classified as more offensive. Fuck is the worst swear word because people say it is, so for this reason ****** is twice as offensive as its nearest equivalent because we have allowed people to define it as such.
 

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His own teammate, someone who should know as a black person, Cary Williams had this to say about the double standard...

And it was perfect.

“[A]t the end of the day, we look at . . . rap artists [and] some people in the locker room, that word gets tossed around. And what I think about my grandmother and my great-grandmother having to endure being called that name . . . . We as a black community sometimes pounce on somebody who uses it in a derogatory way when there are times in the black community when we use it freely. I think there’s no place for that word in anybody’s language, in anybody’s mouth or off anybody’s tongue, whether you’re black, white, green, purple, blue. It’s still the same meaning, it’s still a harsh word.”

So instead of people like Nutter using this as a source for positive change, it is just an excuse to perpetuate the very same under the surface racism that bubbles up whenever people want to get all socially conscious and feign shock, amazement and disgust.


Yep. Unfortunately it is part of the times we live in. Everyone - publicly, anyway - is fighting to be the most "progressive" guy on the block. It's ridiculously fake.

I get that people shouldn't spew hatred towards one another.

I don't get how it became a capital offense. There are far greater crimes.

~looking at Vick~
 

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It is more offensive because it is defined and classified as more offensive. Fuck is the worst swear word because people say it is, so for this reason ****** is twice as offensive as its nearest equivalent because we have allowed people to define it as such.

I've always thought that sort of thing was ridiculous.

I can't say fuck. But I can say screwing, sex, humping, fornication, coitus, etc. All words meaning the same thing. But one of them is vulgar.

I can't say shit, but I can say crap, defecation, stool, dooty (sp?), etc.

There's no logic.
 
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