Theebs

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Ayodele wasn't a starter and wasn't a player Dallas needed on the roster. He was signed as a FA and traded away for a draft pick instead of being released. He played well in Miami but ended up getting cut when they no longer needed him either. He was a stop-gap player for both teams and not a long term player. Dallas received something for nothing by moving him.

Trading away Fasano for a 4th and getting another TE in the 2nd makes it a bad trade. Why give away a quality backup TE that fits well in the run blocking scheme so you can reach on another TE that is a playmaker just like the one you already have? I'll tell you why. Jerry could not sell Fasano jerseys but he did sell plenty of Bennett jerseys.

If you look at that draft however Dallas clearly wanted to upgrade the tight end position from a physical standpoint, more athletic. Just look at the guys brought in at tight end since the garretts arrived. So if you look at the 08 draft jon carlson was the best and went to seattle and bennett and finley were the guys that fit what Dallas likes. Finley was risky with his injuries. So they must have taken bennett knowing he would be gone soon and knowing he was the prototype of what they wanted plus he was healthy.

I dont think it was intended that they would again use a 2 on a tight end it just ended up that way.

they took bennett at 61.
they took fasano at 53 (there target according to norm hitzges was greg jennings who went at 52 thanks to walker leaving)
they got number 100 for him.

its a wierd thing but just circumstantial. They took a tight end in the middle of the 2nd round, the new staff found him a non fit and traded him for the first pick in the 4th and used one of the last picks of the 2nd to replace him. Not really as bad as people have made it out to be.
 

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its the reality because ayodele was going to be released.

Doesn't matter. That's short sighted. It's about the value he has in the league, not where he fits on your team. Obviously you don't want him if you're looking to move him. That's no reason to give him away.

What you mean is it was Jerry's reality. And it made sense to you.

Noted.
 

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Doesn't matter. That's short sighted. It's about the value he has in the league, not where he fits on your team. Obviously you don't want him if you're looking to move him. That's no reason to give him away.

What you mean is it was Jerry's reality. And it made sense to you.

Noted.

It wasnt jerrys reality. It was the reality of the situation.

Ayodele was the odd guy out. Zach thomas had been signed and named the starter, burnett was the nickel backer.
He had zero value. Every single front office person in the nfl knew he was to going to be released. He had zero value.

The scenario you are painting is similar to what philadelphia did last year when they traded two actual starting caliber players in chris gocong and sheldon brown. Those guys had value. They had not been replaced per se like ayodele clearly had been. Brown had a looming contract issue but is still a starting caliber player and cleveland immediately restructured brown. Even those guys didnt bring all that much back getting 105 and 137 plus throw in alex hall. ayodele was a stopgap, brown and gocong are there for multiple years in cleveland as important players.
 

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Fasano's been a nice player for Miami. He's definitely better than a mental midget like Bennett.

That was a horrific trade made by a fake General Manager.

He hasnt been a nice player for them, they nearly released him and have been looking to replace him for 2+ years now. He plays because they cant find anyone else apparently.

Parcells thought he was Mark Bavaro II, and he wasnt even remotely close.
 

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It's just Cowboys fans spinning.

If they were Dolphins fans they'd be talking about how much better Fasano would be if he had a QB.

Bennett's got more talent. Fasano's the better player. I'd trade two Bennetts for him. You can't win with dumb players.

You do realize one of the reasons they got rid of Fasano was because he was dumb as a brick, right?
 

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Why is that the reality of the trade? Because you want it to be?

The actual reality, ya know...as in what actually happened, was the Cowboys gave Miami two starters for a 4th round pick. And in reality, that's bad value.

No GM worth their own salt would have made that deal. That only comes from the Jerry Joneses and Dan Snyders of the league.

What they ended up with after more trading is irrelevant to me. Because they still could have gotten those players though over trades. Or they could have gotten better players with the higher picks they should have gotten for the two starters they gave away.

Dude you dont know shit about reality, becaue you cant see the forest for the tees.

Fasano and Ayodele were not going to be starters here, period. Ayodele was going to be released anyway, period. Just because they went on to start for a talent deprived team like Miami doesnt mean they were quality players. They got rid of one guy a season later and have tried to replace the other ever since. We ended up with two decent role players for the one pick we got back from them, and traded two guys who were absolutely nothing here.
 

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Call me when one of these "great" trades produces a championship. Unless we can trade for a real GM and a few players who do not constantly choke under pressure.
 

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Spencer has to add to his sack total of 6 from last year. He needs to be that other force opposite Ware.

If we knew Clay Matthews was going to be the kind of player he is today, we might not of made that Roy Williams trade.

But let's face it we had a need at receiver more than we did at linebacker in 2008. Spencer has been okay but he hasn't played like a first round talent either.

If we did draft Matthews our starters would be Bryant and Austin today, but in 2008 we would of had Crayton and Austin as our starters. Not sure how that would of played out.

I know one thing our defense would of been better, but hey, that's how it turned out we have Jerry as our GM.

bullshit, TO was doing fine, Jerry tried to hit a homerun with that trade to pair Roy with him, and instead got kicked in the stones.
 
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