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I'd rank them like this:

Epic Trade(s): Terry Glenn

Good trades: Kitna and Holland

Decent to average trade(s): Cason(I liked him in the 3rd down back role)

Bad trades: Crayton, Akin&Fasano, Henson, Adam Jones, Barron and Roy Williams.

Roy was on pace for a bounce back year last year before Tony got laid out, so maybe he deserves mention in the decent to average trade category.
 

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I'd rank them like this:

Epic Trade(s): Terry Glenn

Good trades: Kitna and Holland

Decent to average trade(s): Cason(I liked him in the 3rd down back role)

Bad trades: Crayton, Akin&Fasano, Henson, Adam Jones, Barron and Roy Williams.

Roy was on pace for a bounce back year last year before Tony got laid out, so maybe he deserves mention in the decent to average trade category.

if the boys didnt trade away the number 20 pick in 2008 for roy, they couldve drafted clay matthews to pair with d ware
 
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Spencer has to add to his sack total of 6 from last year. He needs to be that other force opposite Ware.

If we knew Clay Matthews was going to be the kind of player he is today, we might not of made that Roy Williams trade.

But let's face it we had a need at receiver more than we did at linebacker in 2008. Spencer has been okay but he hasn't played like a first round talent either.

If we did draft Matthews our starters would be Bryant and Austin today, but in 2008 we would of had Crayton and Austin as our starters. Not sure how that would of played out.

I know one thing our defense would of been better, but hey, that's how it turned out we have Jerry as our GM.
 
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Regarding the Crayton trade:

My problem is that the Boy's settled for a seventh round pick. There's no doubt that if they would've waited until the trade deadline, they could've acquired a fifth round pick or maybe a veteran cornerback to help stop the bleeding.

Actually, there's a lot of doubt that that would've happened. Santanio Holes was traded for a 5th round pick. And he's leaps and bounds a better player than Crayton.

Crayton netted a 7th because that's really all he was worth.

He was the Charger leading wide receiver through nine games before he suffered a season-ending wrist injury.

No he wasn't.

The Boys could've definitely pulled in a fifth rounder from the St. Louis Rams who had no veteran receiver and were fighting for a playoff spot.

That's speculation.




Also, how the hell do you have trading a throwaway player who you acknowledge would've been cut (Carpenter) for a throwaway player (Barron), ahead of the Pacman, Henson, and RW trades?
 

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I'd rank them like this:

Epic Trade(s): Terry Glenn

Good trades: Kitna and Holland

Decent to average trade(s): Cason(I liked him in the 3rd down back role)

Bad trades: Crayton, Akin&Fasano, Henson, Adam Jones, Barron and Roy Williams.

Roy was on pace for a bounce back year last year before Tony got laid out, so maybe he deserves mention in the decent to average trade category.

I dont agree with you about the Fasano/Ayodele trade or the Barron trade at all. We got better players back via the picks in the Fasano/Ayodele trade, and neither of those guys has amounted to anything. Fasano was a huge disappointment here and has been nothing more than mediocre with Miami (and in fact they have been looking at replacing him for two+ yrs now)

I dont see how the Barron trade is bad. We traded garbage who wasnt going to make the team for another teams garbage that wasnt going to make their team. Nobody won and nobody lost, although Barron at least did stay on our roster. Carpenter was cut.
 
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The Fasano trade bothered me in that we gave up two starters for only a 4th.

But when you consider that they were mediocre starters at best, it lessens the sting. Ayodele was largely an invisible man in our defense. He had almost no impact at all.
 

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The Fasano trade bothered me in that we gave up two starters for only a 4th.

But when you consider that they were mediocre starters at best, it lessens the sting. Ayodele was largely an invisible man in our defense. He had almost no impact at all.

Neither of them were going to be starters here. We gave up guys who were gonna be backups here for a 4th, and in Ayodele's case he was probably going to be released anyway.

The only reasons they started in Miami was because that team was so lacking in talent.
 
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Neither of them were going to be starters here. We gave up guys who were gonna be backups here for a 4th, and in Ayodele's case he was probably going to be released anyway.

The only reasons they started in Miami was because that team was so lacking in talent.

I agree completely. Although Fasano has at least been serviceable.
 

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crayton was the leading wide receiver. gates was the leading receiver overall.

santonio holmes was an off season trade. you always get more desperate trades in season. not too mention santonio was going to be cut by pittsburgh originally
 
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crayton was the leading wide receiver. gates was the leading receiver overall.

Crayton was only the leading receiver because Floyd missed 6 games, and Vincent Jackson missed 12.

The team having a lack of talent at receiver is a reason why 13 players had double digit receptions, including 10 who had 20+ receptions.

Your statement might technically be correct, but it's also incredibly misleading.

santonio holmes was an off season trade.

As was Crayton.

you always get more desperate trades in season. not too mention santonio was going to be cut by pittsburgh originally

So you would have preferred to keep Crayton over a receiver you'd otherwise rather have, in the hopes that some team might offer a 5th or 6th, as opposed to a 7th?

That's a ridiculous gamble. Odds are the player you'd prefer to keep would get snagged by some other team - so you'd lose him. And Crayton's lack of playing time would diminish his trade value. Plus, there's no guarantee a trade partner would appear.
 

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Tough to beat that glenn trade. It was a quiet trade that february, green bay sent the pick to sf who used it to take punter Andy Lee.

Terry glenn was excellent in 03, part of 04 and 05.
 

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The Fasano trade bothered me in that we gave up two starters for only a 4th.

Same here. Wasn't crazy about Adoyle or Fasano but a 4th for both seemed like low ball trade with us on the low end of the equation. Fasano to me falls in the same boat that Bennett is in. Why did we waste a 2nd rounder(Uh Hum......Kendal Watkins) on a situational TE who is basically nothing more than a 3rd OT two thirds of the time. With Witten being the incumbent Fasano wasn't going to be an offensive threat. Fasano is not a bad player and given more oppurtunites could be one of the more recognized TE in the game today. In his defense he has had a less than stellar revolving door of QB's to work with in Miami.
 

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Same here. Wasn't crazy about Adoyle or Fasano but a 4th for both seemed like low ball trade with us on the low end of the equation. Fasano to me falls in the same boat that Bennett is in. Why did we waste a 2nd rounder(Uh Hum......Kendal Watkins) on a situational TE who is basically nothing more than a 3rd OT two thirds of the time. With Witten being the incumbent Fasano wasn't going to be an offensive threat. Fasano is not a bad player and given more oppurtunites could be one of the more recognized TE in the game today. In his defense he has had a less than stellar revolving door of QB's to work with in Miami.

I am way too lazy to follow the exact details but that ayodele fasano trade..(I still would like to have fasano) turned out pretty good for us. The pick we recieved for those two was moved and ended up being the picks that allowed us scandrick and choice.

and also at that time we had just signed ken hamlin to go with roy williams and we had keith davis and abe elam as backups and others.
 
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I am way too lazy to follow the exact details but that ayodele fasano trade..(I still would like to have fasano) turned out pretty good for us. The pick we recieved for those two was moved and ended up being the picks that allowed us scandrick and choice.

if you read the article, it was a bad trade because they traded out of the fourth rounder that was ultimately used to select ss Tyvon Branch
 

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The Fasano trade bothered me in that we gave up two starters for only a 4th.

But when you consider that they were mediocre starters at best, it lessens the sting. Ayodele was largely an invisible man in our defense. He had almost no impact at all.

It was a fail because we turned around and spent a 3rd on a TE that turns out isn't any better than Fasano.

Edit for bold part: Or was it a 2nd?
 
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