Racist!
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Racist!
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Suprise pick here:
I vote Democrat.
I vote Democrat.
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Think it's more to do with dead people voting than anything. But yes, illegal aliens shouldn't be voting either. Nor should a group of folks from Nebraska be voting in an election in Texas. Nor should folks that have already voted be able to go to another place, tell a different name and vote again.
There is a whole host of reasons WHY valid photo ID's work and only one real reason why folks say they are an infringement. Fraud.
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I think everyone in every state can get a free photo ID from the DMV. Are you saying black people don't want to wait in line at the DMV with all the crap they need? Are you saying Black people don't drive?
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Studies have shown that rape laws have severely impaired mens ability to fuck women.
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You're right, this is 2012 Chicago.
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We have been verifying identity without photo ID for centuries, why do we need to change the requirements?
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So black people voting is akin to rape? Nice one.
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You mean 2000 right? Dumbass
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Why is showing a valid photo ID a black issue? When did it become bend over backwards for lazy ass people of any color day? Get a fucking photo ID if you want to vote. How hard is that? What white people take better photos and like obeying laws more than black folk do?
Do you really think the same people that bus them in to vote on election days wouldn't bus them down to the DMV for an ID? Quit telling black people that they suck so much you racist.
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Right, the photograph was only invented in the early 1800s. There just hasn't been enough time to advance the technology so that it can be used to identify voters.
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You are so fucking stupid. Facts are facts, and the facts are fewer black people will vote if photo ID laws are enacted. You likened this to rape, good job.
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Why is this?
Bob Sacamano
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Blame Tammany Hall. Awhile before then citizens and politicians were much more honest and forthright than they are now.
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You could blame Richard Nixon too.
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It's degrading apparently.
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How do you know, and why would this be?
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lol if serious. You white hicks are so out of touch with reality that it's hilarious.
"By all estimates, those least likely to have a government-issued photo ID fall into one of four categories: the elderly, minorities, the poor and young adults aged 18 to 24. The Brennan Center estimates that 18 percent of all seniors and 25 percent of African-Americans don't have picture IDs.
Seniors traditionally have been the most consistent voting group, particularly in absentee balloting. Turnout among minorities has steadily risen over the years and reached a record in 2008 (when the rate of black turnout virtually equaled that of whites for the first time). Also in 2008, turnout of under-24-year-olds reached its highest rate since 1992.
Why Don't They Have Photo IDs?
Many people have multiple forms of identification, including those that display their pictures — like employee badges or credit and debit cards. But states with strict voter ID laws require people to have certain photo IDs issued by governments.
That typically means driver's licenses. But many seniors and many poor people don't drive. In big cities, many minorities rely on public transit. And many young adults, especially those in college, don't yet have licenses.
A good number of these people, particularly seniors, function well with the IDs they have long had — such as Medicaid cards, Social Security cards or bank cards. Among the elderly, many of them have banked at the same branch for so long that tellers recognize them without needing to see their IDs. They also may rarely need to cash or deposit checks, relying instead on the direct depositing of Social Security and pension payments.
"The people we're finding are very poor people, people who never drove — and it's surprising how many people are like that," says Larry Dupuis of the American Civil Liberties Union of Wisconsin, which has filed suit to overturn that state's voter ID law. "They tend to be older people, often women. They also never had a need for a state ID card. There are many things you don't need an ID card for that people think you actually need one for."
Among minorities in poor and rural communities, it's common to bypass banks with their paychecks and rely on cash-checking stores, which will accept most forms of photo ID.
Many states offer non-driver IDs that can be displayed when voting, often provided by motor vehicle agencies.
But that can create a host of problems for some. Rural residents can live great distances from state motor vehicle offices. And some state motor vehicle agencies have chronically long wait times for customers. In Tennessee, which has a new voter ID law, the governor has raised concerns about whether offices are prepared to handle an increased volume of ID seekers.
To Get An ID, You Need An ID
In most states with voter ID laws, citizens must present birth certificates to obtain new photo IDs. Seniors and those born in rural areas, in particular, face a difficult time meeting the requirement because birth certificates weren't regularly generated in the 1930s and earlier. And many of these people were delivered by midwives, who often improperly spelled babies' and parents' names on birth documents.
If a state does have a person's birth certificate, they often must present a photo ID to obtain a copy. That can put an individual back at square one.
"People are caught in a Catch-22: You need a birth certificate to get this ID, but to get a birth certificate you have to have an ID," says Elisabeth MacNamara, who heads the League of Women Voters.