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More Acorn Voter Fraud Comes to Light
Congressional Democrats still want the group to be eligible for federal money..
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Democrats are split on how to deal with Acorn, the liberal "community organizing" group that deployed thousands of get-out-the-vote workers last election. State and city Democratic officials -- who've been contending with its many scandals -- are moving against it. Washington Democrats are still sweeping Acorn abuses under a rug.

On Monday, Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn's forms "are clearly fraudulent." On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year's general election.

Acorn spokesman Scott Levenson calls the Nevada criminal complaint "political grandstanding" and says that any problems were the actions of an unnamed "bad employee." But Catherine Cortez Masto, Nevada's Democratic Attorney General, told the Las Vegas Sun that Acorn itself is named in the criminal complaint. She says that Acorn's training manuals "clearly detail, condone and . . . require illegal acts," such as requiring its workers to meet strict voter-registration targets to keep their jobs.

Other Democrats on the ground have complaints. Fred Voight, deputy election commissioner in Philadelphia, protested after Acorn (according to the registrar of voters and his own investigation) submitted at least 1,500 fraudulent registrations last fall. "This has been going on for a number of years," he told CNN in October. St. Louis Democrat Matthew Potter, the city's deputy elections director, had similar complaints.

Elsewhere, Washington state prosecutors fined Acorn $25,000 after several employees were convicted of voter registration fraud in 2007. The group signed a consent decree with King County (Seattle), requiring it to beef up its oversight or face criminal prosecution. In the 2008 election, Acorn's practices led to investigations, some ongoing, in 14 other states.

The stink is bad enough that some congressional Democrats have taken notice. At a March 19 hearing on election problems, Michigan Rep. John Conyers, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, pressed New York Rep. Gerald Nadler, chairman of the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, to hold a hearing on Acorn. He called the charges against it "serious." Mr. Nadler agreed to consider the request.

Mr. Nadler's office now says there will be no hearing on Acorn because Mr. Conyers has changed his mind. Mr. Conyers's office released a statement on Monday saying that after reviewing "the complaints against Acorn, I have concluded that a hearing on this matter appears unwarranted at this time." A Democratic staffer told me he believes the House leadership put pressure on Mr. Conyers to back down. Mr. Conyers's office says it is "unaware" of any contacts with House leaders.

Then there's Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. Last month, he voted for a committee amendment (to the Mortgage Reform and Anti-Predatory Lending Act) by Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R., Minn.) to block groups indicted for voter fraud from receiving federal housing or legal assistance grants. Identical language was passed into law in the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008. Mr. Frank now says he "had not read [the amendment] carefully" before backing it. He gutted the amendment on Thursday, claiming that the language Congress passed just last year is "a violation of the basic principles of due process."

A lot of money is at stake. In the stimulus bill passed by Congress, Acorn is eligible -- along with other activist groups -- to apply for $2 billion in funds to redevelop abandoned and foreclosed homes. Meanwhile, public records show that last spring the IRS filed three tax liens totaling almost $1 million against Acorn, most of which concerned employee withholding.

All of this infuriates Marcel Reid, who, along with seven other national Acorn board members, was removed last year after demanding an audit of the group's books. "Acorn has been hijacked by a power-hungry clique that has its own political and personal agendas," she told me. "We are fighting to take back the group."

Bertha Lewis, the head of Acorn, told me last year before their ouster that the "Acorn Eight" were "obsessed" and "confused." But Anita MonCrief, an Acorn whistleblower, says the problems run deep. Ms. MonCrief worked at Project Vote, an Acorn affiliate, in late 2007. She says its development director, Karen Gillette, told her she had direct contact with the Obama campaign and also told her to call Obama donors who had maxed out on donations to the candidate but who could contribute to Acorn. Project Vote calls her charges "absolutely false." (Ms. Gillette has declined comment.)

Acorn's relationship to the Obama campaign is a matter of public record. Last year, Citizens Consulting Inc., the umbrella group controlling Acorn, was paid $832,000 by the Obama campaign for get-out-the-vote efforts in key primary states. In filings with the Federal Election Commission, the campaign listed the payments as "staging, sound, lighting," only correcting them after reporters from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review revealed their true nature.

Mr. Obama distanced himself from the group's scandals last year, saying "We don't need Acorn's help." Nevertheless, he got his start as a community organizer at Acorn's side. In 1992, he headed a registration effort for Project Vote, an Acorn partner at the time. In 1995, he represented Acorn in a key case upholding the new Motor Voter Act -- the very law whose mandated postcard registration system Acorn workers use to flood election offices with bogus registrations.

But Acorn's registration tricks may soon be unnecessary. Congressional Democrats are backing a bill to mandate a nationwide data base to automatically register driver's license holders or recipients of government benefits.

This "would create an engraved invitation for voter fraud," says Hans von Spakovsky, a former Federal Election Commission member, who points out that these lists are filled with felons and noncitizens who are ineligible to vote. Ironically, in light of its troubles with the law, Acorn was selected in March to assist the U.S. Census in reaching out to minority communities and recruiting census enumerators for the count next year.

As for the Nevada indictment, Acorn isn't worried. "We've had bad publicity before, and all it does is inform the community that we're here working for the community," Bonnie Greathouse, Acorn's head organizer in Nevada, assured the Las Vegas Review-Journal this week. "People always come forward to our defense. We're just community organizers, just like the president used to be."

Mr. Fund is a columnist for WSJ.com .
 

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If you cannot find them that is your fault for sticking to Fox News and not looking elsewhere to learn about the issue. Minorities are less likely to have or obtain a gov't. issued ID and will simply not vote because of the added hoops that must be jumped through.

Why would that be exactly?
 

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ACORN employees tell FBI of deliberate election fraud, according to new documents


Published: 1:55 AM 06/10/2010

By Matthew Vadum - The Daily Caller

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The radical activist group ACORN “works” for the Democratic Party and deliberately promotes election fraud, ACORN employees told FBI investigators, according to an FBI document dump Wednesday.

The documents obtained by Judicial Watch, a watchdog group, are FBI investigators’ reports related to the 2007 investigation and arrest of eight St. Louis, Mo., workers from ACORN’s Project Vote affiliate for violation of election laws. All eight employees involved in the scandal later pleaded guilty to voter registration fraud.

Project Vote is ACORN’s voter registration arm. Project Vote continues to operate despite the reported dissolution of the national structure of ACORN.

The handwritten reports by FBI agents show that ACORN employees reported numerous irregularities in the nonprofit group’s business practices.

One employee told the FBI that ACORN headquarters is “wkg [working] for the Democratic Party.”

According to one report, an ACORN employee said the purpose of “[f]raudulent cards” was “[t]o cause confusion on election day to keep polls open longer,” “[t]o allow people who can’t vote to vote,” and “[t]o allow to vote multiple times.”

Another report quotes an employee saying, “Project Vote will pay them whether cards fake or not – whatever they had to do to get the cards was attitude.” Project Vote pays based on the number of cards and “that’s why they were so reckless,” the report says.



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A report quotes an employee saying, “I don’t like our system. I don’t think we should do voter registration.” The report also notes that employees were “[c]onstantly threatened” and that the staff were “instructed on what to say to FBI.”

Another report indicates an employee told the investigator, that ACORN “[t]old employees not to talk to the FBI.” The FBI is “‘trying to intimidate you.’”

“These documents show the need for a national criminal investigation by the Obama Justice Department into ACORN,” said Tom Fitton, president of Judicial Watch.

“Is Attorney General [Eric] Holder doing nothing because of Obama’s close connections to ACORN and Project Vote? The information in these new documents has national implications that cry out for further investigation,” Fitton said.

President Obama’s ties to ACORN go back to the 1980s.

“ACORN noticed him when he was organizing on the far south side of the city with the Developing Communities Project,” according to Toni Foulkes, a former member of ACORN’s national board. From 1985 to 1988 Obama ran the Developing Communities Project from an office located in Chicago’s Holy Rosary Church.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/10/a...aud-according-to-new-documents/#ixzz1rDjD61xY
 

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Gosh, it sounds like voter fraud is being taken care of in the same manner it always has been since the country first won its independence, through the legal system. It was good enough then, I don't know why "conservatives" are pushing so hard to promote change.
 

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So being required to show a valid photo ID is going to prevent black people from voting?


Damn those racist bastards for not allowing them to have photo IDs.
 

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This is from the state of Georgia voter ID website:

Voter ID

1. What identification is required to vote?

Acceptable Identification is:
•A Georgia driver’s license, even if expired
•Any valid state or federal issued photo ID, including a free Voter ID Card issued by your county registrar’s office or by the Georgia Department of Driver Services (DDS)
•Valid U.S. passport
•Valid employee photo ID from any branch, department, agency, or entity of the U. S. Government, Georgia, or any county, municipality, board, authority or other entity of this state
•Valid U.S. military photo ID
•Valid tribal photo ID

2. Can I use my college or university photo ID card?

If you are currently enrolled in a state college, university or technical college listed below, you may use your school photo ID. If you attend a private college or university, you must show one of the other acceptable forms of photo identification. For more information, call (877) 725-9797.
 

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The conservatives crying voter fraud after that travesty of a election in 2004.lol

The State of Florida says hello.
 

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'Voter Fraud' Itself a Fraudulent Issue

Ed Squire

As of Saturday, December 24, 2011


In June 2011, state Sen. Harris Blake and state Rep. Jamie Boles both voted for House Bill 351, titled "Restore Confidence in Government," a bill intended to prevent voter impersonation and identity fraud (VIFr) by mandating that voters have government issued photo IDs.

However, in vetoing this bill, Gov. Beverly Perdue avoided tasking the North Carolina Board of Elections with the issuance of about 200,000 IDs at a cost of $6 million to $8 million. Republicans authorized $600,000 directly with funds held in reserve.

Republicans claim that IDs are crucial, whereas Democrats argue VIFr is negligible and that this new ID requirement, above and beyond existing requirements, may disenfranchise voters who experience difficulty obtaining new IDs. What, then, is the evidence for and against these contradictory views?

Reportedly, between 2001 and 2007 there were more people killed by lightning strikes than proven cases of VIFr. Furthermore, in Spencer Overton's 2006 "Stealing Democracy, The New Politics of Voter Suppression," he cites the rarity of fraudulent votes. In Ohio in 2002 and 2004, four of the 9,078,728 votes cast, or 0.00004 percent, were fraudulent. In Washington, one fraudulent ballot per 100,000 votes equals 0.001 percent.

These data, plus information on voter suppression, have buttressed Overton's conclusion that voter suppression itself could alter thousands of election outcomes.

Then too, in Lorraine C. Minnite's 2010 book "The Myth of Voter Fraud," she similarly concludes that VIFr is rare and cites 2004 statistics: 20,000 allegations, 51 possibly fraudulent ballots, many of them from Alabama, which had 22 fraudulent, absentee ballots that IDs would have done nothing to stop.

Nor could I find books opposing these conclusions, i.e., with titles like "Elections Corrupted by Voter Fraud" or "The Myth of Voter Suppression."

Locally, Moore County has 55,600 registered voters. And 6 percent, about 3,300 of them, have no driver's license. Statewide, at least four counties have sought to pass local VIFr policies. We might be next.

But related to the ID question is the broader question, "What in general should be done to prevent/correct flawed policy proposals?"

In 1990, Gordon Guyatt, a physician, coined the term "evidence-based medicine," i.e., medical decision-making preferentially based upon objective data rather than opinion. Why not "evidence-based policy" also?

Surely a small, highly respected, bipartisan group of leading legislators could reach an agreement as to how trustworthy various types of evidence are, and thereby propose a continuum of evidentiary strength that would facilitate introducing this perspective into debate.

To be more specific: Non-expert opinions with little or no supporting data might receive an F; expert opinions with little or no data, a D; systematic reviews/descriptive studies with data, a C; uncontrolled, experimental studies, a D; and randomized, controlled experiments, an A.

For example, a B-grade policy proposal might be measurements taken before and after introduction of a new policy.

Republican efforts to require IDs rely upon less-than-expert opinions with little supporting data, evidence that would receive an F grade on the scale above and which is also overshadowed by the C-grade, expert data analyses of Overton and Minnite.

This makes the stated need for IDs to prevent VIFr misleading and a proposal that may confer a political advantage to Republicans, as it may disproportionally affect certain minorities that tend to vote Democratic, such as African-Americans.

In medicine, if those who propose new findings resort to the use of inferior grades of evidence, they lose credibility. The same effect should apply to those who propose new policies, submit poor quality evidence, or lose credibility.

We can and therefore should aim for policies with higher grades of evidence than HB-351.

Legislators and the public alike would benefit by establishing a system for evaluating evidentiary quality and then educating the public about this framework while injecting it into political debates much as the quality of evidence mediates scientific and medical differences of opinion. Differences that can be every bit as contentious as partisan political debates.

Surely, a small, evidence-oriented bipartisan group could at least create a pilot proposal as to what constitutes A, B, C, D and F grades of evidence. That alone would be a good start.

Ed Squire, a retired Army

doctor who lives in Seven Lakes, can be reached at asthma.ed @gmail.com.
 

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Fox News' Megyn Kelly Admits Voter Fraud Issue Is "Not Overwhelming"

November 04, 2011 3:15 pm ET by Brian Powell

Right-wing media, and Fox News in particular, love embellishing the terrifying specter of voter fraud as a way to support and justify restrictive voter identification and registration laws. It's hardly surprising -- the more restrictive the law, the fewer people vote; and when fewer people vote, more Republicans win elections. Unfortunately for the fear-mongers, study after study shows that cases of voter fraud are few and far between and fears of a massive-scale voter fraud effort are unfounded.

Surprisingly, Fox News' Megyn Kelly now agrees. In a segment on voter fraud on the November 4 edition of America Live, Kelly admitted that the problem is "not overwhelming."

KELLY: Well that's the classic debate. Because Democrats always say it's about disenfranchising, the Republicans always say it's about voter fraud. And you guys are never going to see eye to eye.

ALAN COLMES: We don't have enough cases of fraud to make this a real issue. It's an invented issue.

KELLY: Well, but there have been some instances, but you're right it's not overwhelming.

Kelly's reality-based opinion about the state of voter fraud in the country is entirely inconsistent with her network's feverish, obsessive coverage of the issue. Before practically every election, Fox breathlessly warns of potential fraud; every vote is constantly in peril of being stolen. The network has even gone so far as to establish a voter fraud hotline:

Fox News promotes voter fraud hotline

Why would Fox News devote such resources to a problem that is "not overwhelming"? Because Fox is a GOP mouthpiece and the party benefits from driving their voters into a frenzy about supposed fraud and passing laws to suppress the vote.
 

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The conservatives crying voter fraud after that travesty of a election in 2004.lol

The State of Florida says hello.

Somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico, that barge with 1000's of military votes is still floating too...true story
 

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There is no way I would be willing to carry around another ID card in my money clip. It's totally filled with my discover card and various receipts
 

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Link to studies?

I'd be curious to know why getting a government issued ID card would be difficult, based on race.




You post a lot of retarded shit. Like, almost all the time.

Keep it up though. It's good for traffic.

It's actually bad for traffic when people see his 10 year old name-calling temper tantrums he throws.
 
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It's actually bad for traffic when people see his 10 year old name-calling temper tantrums he throws.

Wow, you call me a 10 year old yet I am the name caller? Nice work on the trolling.
 

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I'm not sure what exactly a troll is

What Jon88 is doing here is trolling, thus making him a troll. He is providing no content for the discussion and simply attacks another user in hopes of getting a response. He constantly trolls me by calling me a troll, it is pretty funny.
 

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What Jon88 is doing here is trolling, thus making him a troll. He is providing no content for the discussion and simply attacks another user in hopes of getting a response. He constantly trolls me by calling me a troll, it is pretty funny.

lol
 
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Hey American citizen, you should probably prove who you are before you vote. Sorry I'm being such a giant racist!
 
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