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At home with our defense, I go for it in that situation 10 out of 10 times. We ended up using the field position to go right down and score after the stop.
The way our offense was moving the ball outside the redzone at that point, I would have believed we would have scored even without the field position. What did we score on 5 of our first 7 drives?
 
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I wanted them to go for it on 4th and goal so I cannot blame Garrett for making the call. I didn't like the way the first half ended with the offense settling for a FG. They moved the ball pretty easy and should have taken at least one shot at the endzone.
 

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I have next to zero confidence in our O to run the ball into the end zone from inside the 5. I'm not saying it was the world's worst call. But the way the game went, it ended up affecting the outcome. Like I originally said, there are a lot of things to blame this on. It's not all on Tony.

Yeah, but the blame starts:

1. Romo































everything else.

You can't swing the momentum to the other team to the tune of 14 points. You just can't.
 

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The way our offense was moving inside outside the redzone at that point, I would have believed we would have scored even without the field position. What did we score on 5 of our first 7 drives?

Sounds about right....I have no problem with the play calling today....I thought it was really good.

That int to witten should have been a huge play for us and the third down that was incomplete witten got crossed up and lost sight of the ball, if he just turns to the inside where romo threw it over his shoulder it's another first down and a big play.
 

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I wanted them to go for it on 4th and goal so I cannot blame Garrett for making the call. I didn't like the way the first half ended with the offense settling for a FG. They moved the ball pretty easy and should have taken at least one shot at the endzone.

We had the ball out of the half there was absolutely no reason to risk a turnover there...
 

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We had the ball out of the half there was absolutely no reason to risk a turnover there...

Yet we risked a turnover at no fewer than three other points in the game... does not make sense.
 
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Yeah, but the blame starts:

1. Romo

everything else.

You can't swing the momentum to the other team to the tune of 14 points. You just can't.

I agree. But ultimately I don't care who is MORE to blame. I just care that our mistakes get fixed. We had a damn near perfect 2 1/2 quarters of football. There's nothing that says that we can't play that way long enough to win most of our games. Nothing. Not the play calling, not the OL, not the RBs lack of ability to hit a hole, not the center-QB exchange problems we had last week, not the backup WRs not knowing their assignments.... and not Romo.

I'm not saying we will be a perfect football team. But we have the ability to play enough good football to win most of our games.
 

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Yet we risked a turnover at no fewer than three other points in the game... does not make sense.

This post makes no sense, no reason to risk throwing the ball into a crowd or getting sacked and knocked out of fg range..
 

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All I'm saying is that from here on out for the rest of the year, Romo better limit his bonehead-filled, ADHD days to one game. If even that, after the past 2 we've already had to witness this year, and the countless others before that. In the words of Red Foremen, Romo, "needs to buckle down".
 

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This post makes no sense, no reason to risk throwing the ball into a crowd or getting sacked and knocked out of fg range..

We risked turning the ball over on downs instead of taking the three points on the FG. That is a much bigger risk than taking a shot at the end zone on 3rd and 1 from the 31. Instead we run with Choice, call the timeout and kick the FG. The play at the end of the half had less risk to it yet he does not take it. If you are going to go for the throat then do it, don't pussy out and settle for a FG when you do not have to.
 
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Not much reason to blame the play calling when the QB threw 3 just mind numbingly stupid picks right to opposing defenders

Been a Romo defender for a long time, but this one is really disappointing. He just will never learn. He almost single handely lost this game. Really frustrating.

There's alot of reason to, again, look at the playcalling and game management by JG. He doesn't get it yet.

Example 1 from today.. why the hell would you challange a TD call and risk losing a timeout when its 1st and goal at the one inch line already? Just stupid shit like that.. and why does Tony end up with 50 pass attempts when we have a big lead for the majority of the game? Makes no sense. Everything that we were doing right in the first half, we inexplicably stopped doing in the second half.. on both sides of the ball.
 

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If he had called a pass and it didnt work, people would just say he should have run.

The blame the play calling thing gets old. There was nothing wrong with any of the play calling today. The only thing I saw wrong was our franchise QB playing a horrendous second half, and the defense folding like a cheap tent down the stretch.


Blame the playcalling or blame Jerry. Simple minds needs simple answers.
 

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There's alot of reason to, again, look at the playcalling and game management by JG. He doesn't get it yet.

Example 1 from today.. why the hell would you challange a TD call and risk losing a timeout when its 1st and goal at the one inch line already? Just stupid shit like that.. and why does Tony end up with 50 pass attempts when we have a big lead for the majority of the game? Makes no sense. Everything that we were doing right in the first half, we inexplicably stopped doing in the second half.. on both sides of the ball.

What makes no sense is talking out of your ass.

In terms of #1, its hard to score TD's from the other teams 1yd line. Did you not see us fail to do so earlier in the game? All year we've struggled to gain tough yards in the run game. The OL just isnt physical enough yet. If you think its a TD, you damn well better challenge.

And in response to your crying about the number of passes, since you apparently paid no attention I did the research for you in another thread. The answer is they probably would have run more in the 2nd half, but two possessions ended after one play each- boneheaded ints by the QB. We had two 3 and outs in the 4th qtr, they ran the ball on 3 of the 6 plays. They ran the ball 5 times on another possession, which ended in yet another bad pick by Romo, this time on 3rd down. They had to throw the ball on every down of the last possession because the defense blew the lead. Detroit was up 4 and we had to go the length of the field with no timeouts. The last 8 playcalls were passes, because they had to be passes. Had they held the lead or had the QB not given the game to Detroit on a silver platter earlier in the half, most (if not all) of the end of the game calls would have been runs. They definitely wouldnt have been all passes. So instead of a 47/27 play call distribution, it would have been more like 40/34 or maybe even closer to 37/37

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the play calling. The only problem offensively was the helter skelter play of the QB. Nearly flawless for 35 mins, absolutely awful afterward.
 

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What makes no sense is talking out of your ass.

That's RoyTheCrapper for ya.


In terms of #1, its hard to score TD's from the other teams 1yd line. Did you not see us fail to do so earlier in the game? All year we've struggled to gain tough yards in the run game. The OL just isnt physical enough yet. If you think its a TD, you damn well better challenge.

And in response to your crying about the number of passes, since you apparently paid no attention I did the research for you in another thread. The answer is they probably would have run more in the 2nd half, but two possessions ended after one play each- boneheaded ints by the QB. We had two 3 and outs in the 4th qtr, they ran the ball on 3 of the 6 plays. They ran the ball 5 times on another possession, which ended in yet another bad pick by Romo, this time on 3rd down. They had to throw the ball on every down of the last possession because the defense blew the lead. Detroit was up 4 and we had to go the length of the field with no timeouts. The last 8 playcalls were passes, because they had to be passes. Had they held the lead or had the QB not given the game to Detroit on a silver platter earlier in the half, most (if not all) of the end of the game calls would have been runs. They definitely wouldnt have been all passes. So instead of a 47/27 play call distribution, it would have been more like 40/34 or maybe even closer to 37/37

There was absolutely nothing wrong with the play calling. The only problem offensively was the helter skelter play of the QB. Nearly flawless for 35 mins, absolutely awful afterward.


The INTs were bad enough. One wasn't enough. He had to follow it up with an encore. But what killed us just as much were the 3 and outs.. And then he had to go for the hat trick INT.
 
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I didn't read any of this thread. You guys sure like using a lot of words and stuff.

The play calling was fine. IMO.

My one complaint would be running Felix into the teeth of Suh and Williams on 4th and short, behind a fat and ineffective Josh Brent at FB.

We are the worst short yardage running team in the history of football. Putting Brent at FB is just another 300lb guy that Felix has to try and run through. It actually works in the defenses favor.
 

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I didn't read any of this thread. You guys sure like using a lot of words and stuff.

The play calling was fine. IMO.

My one complaint would be running Felix into the teeth of Suh and Williams on 4th and short, behind a fat and ineffective Josh Brent at FB.

We are the worst short yardage running team in the history of football. Putting Brent at FB is just another 300lb guy that Felix has to try and run through. It actually works in the defenses favor.


That burns me up. The shit didn't work when Parcells ran it with Marcus Spears at FB, and it's not working now. Why not just simply do a toss sweep? Or have Romo roll out? Is there some rule that you have to run it up the gut if the ball is on the 1 yard line?
 

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People get off of this playcalling shit. THREE INTERCEPTIONS TO THE TUNE OF 21 POINTS, COST US THIS GAME BY 4 POINTS. You take away one INT, we win the game; you take away two INTs, we win the game.

The Lions are NOT that good of a team. They are not a bad team, but they are not 4-0 good. They should be 2-2, and we should be 4-0, for not one stupid and selfish mutherfucker.

If the score would have been 37-3, Romo would have thrown 4 INTs, to a tune of 28 points. And we would have lost 44-40. If we cannot find a way to lose, leave it to Romo---he will create a way. This game reminded me a bit of the Bills game in 2007, except there was no meltdown in that game, because Romo played like crap from the snap of the ball. We all gave him a pass on it, because it was mentioned that earlier during the week, Romo's father was diagnosed with prostate cancer, and certainly Romo was playing with a heavy heart. But this is entirely different.

I just simply want to know why.


You would think that after throwing the first INT and with the Jets game not too far past, that he would have been more mindful.
 
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