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Meh. Not really into the hire.

But he has proven he can work with Al Davis. So he should be able to work with idiot Jerry.

And I do think his intensity would be good, and he'd make Romo a better player.

Still not sold though.
 

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Meh. Not really into the hire.

But he has proven he can work with Al Davis. So he should be able to work with idiot Jerry.

And I do think his intensity would be good, and he'd make Romo a better player.

Still not sold though.

What is it that you don't like about him?
 
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What is it that you don't like about him?

I don't think he's good at developing young players. I think he makes odd personnel decisions, especially at QB. I think he's overrated as a coach, primarily because of his animated personality. I think he needs a strong GM, which we certainly do not have.

I think we'd see gains in the short-term, including possibly immediately. He could be a guy to get us to the SB. But long term I think we'd be fcked. Which, really, is no difference that what we are now... so maybe it wouldn't be that bad afterall.

Shit. I'm talking myself into being a Jon Gruden backer.
 

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I think we'd see gains in the short-term, including possibly immediately. He could be a guy to get us to the SB. But long term I think we'd be fcked.
Wouldn't we all take a trip to the SB right now? :confused

I do agree somewhat about his personnel decisions, and I hate how his offensive play calls take about 30 seconds to make. Wonder how long it would take Dez to learn all that.

But I think we could do a lot worse.
 
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^^ I don't even know if there are 6-7 options out there.

Holmgren
Payton
Gruden
1-2 college douchebags I don't care about
Jay Gruden
Perry Fewell
Cowher
Andy Reid
Gus Bradley
Billick (victim of shitty QB issues)
Arians
Mike McCoy (under the radar, but definitely an offensive genius)
 
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Don't care, want championship now.

Gruden, Payton and Holmgren are short term solutions to get these clowns into the Super Bowl.

We've made it 18 years without a title. We can make it 18 more again after one. We'll have each other, guyz :gay
 

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What happens if you go for it now..don't even get close..then the personnel decisions blow and we suck major for the next 5-7 years?

That's my biggest concern
 

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The only thing I think this team is doing even ok at is drafting.

If we start to fuck that up-we are a gutter team
 
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^^^

That's what is going to happen anyway.

Did you just wake up from being frozen in 2006? Lemme catch u up. Remember Wade Philips? The fat Michellin mascot dude who sucked as HC in Buffalo? That's who we hired after negotiations with Norville Turner fell apart. Spoiler alert: that didnt work out. So then we literally hired one of our shitty 3rd string QBs to coach and we allowed him to let his entire family become assistant coaches. Spoiler alert: that didnt work out either.
 

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Yeah. But at least the drafting over the last 3 years has been solid

Dez
Lee
Mo
Smith
Murray
Carter

You can win w drafts like these
 
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Yeah. But at least the drafting over the last 3 years has been solid

Dez
Lee
Mo
Smith
Murray

You can win w drafts like these

Not if you can't coach them.

Dez wasn't utilized until the 4th quarter against Cinci. And this is a team with Newman and Pacman aka two of the shittiest CBs in the entire league.

Last year, the Giants made it a point to throw at anyone Newman was covering, even if it was their 5th receiver on the depth chart. Of the 2500 reasons that Ginger is useless, one is that he has zero ability to exploit these types of mismatches.
 

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Garrett was actually a very good backup QB for us, UVA. He could have started for half the league in his prime, IMO.
 

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Why would we hire Gruden when we already have a better head coach in place?

Well you see if Garrett gets fired then we'll be looking for a new head coach. That's usually how that works.

Go unclog a toilet or something, I don't care. Just go away.
 

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Not if you can't coach them.

Dez wasn't utilized until the 4th quarter against Cinci. And this is a team with Newman and Pacman aka two of the shittiest CBs in the entire league.

Last year, the Giants made it a point to throw at anyone Newman was covering, even if it was their 5th receiver on the depth chart. Of the 2500 reasons that Ginger is useless, one is that he has zero ability to exploit these types of mismatches.

absolutely..no arguing any of this..

its clear that garrett isnt capable of scheming ways to win..i feel like he would be a great coach if he had all the pieces..but thats not the case here
 

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I tried to tell you phuckers.

Gruden , IMO, is ideal for this current roster. He also is ideal as far as dealing with Jerry and the media scrutiny of the Cowboys.
Payton, if available, is option 1 but Gruden is 1B.

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I tried to tell you phuckers.

Gruden , IMO, is ideal for this current roster. He also is ideal as far as dealing with Jerry and the media scrutiny of the Cowboys.
Payton, if available, is option 1 but Gruden is 1B.

I approve of this message.

how about bringing in Kiffin to run the D? Get the old gang back together?

lolol
 
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