NFL: Holding missed on key fourth down conversion

[ZeroClub]

 

[UVAwahoos]

Something tells me the refs are gonna give a lot of calls to Green Bay now just to show there's no conspiracy or Dallas bias.

I blame ginger.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This is more appalling than Ferguson.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Dude. We've gotten great calls all year long. We should be the last ones to complain about officiating this year.

Do you really think the league hates its most popular team?

Care to elaborate? And it's not like you've watched other teams right?

 

[peplaw06]

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Not really. Even with Leary holding, Suh managed to get a hand on Tony as he released the ball. Absent the hold, Tony would have been clobbered.

Looks like Romo's releasing it to me. You're talking about a split second decision on this one. It takes less than a second for Romo to go through his throwing motion.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Originally Posted by dbair1967
Stafford scramble play. Nothing wrong here at all right BB and Midstump?

https://vine.co/v/OddEwd1wW7z
sure, you could make the case for holding, but it doesn't explain/excuse the 80 yards that followed, and at 7-0, it was hardly at a critical point in the game.
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Oh NOW we can play the "shit happened after that play so sack up" Card.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Something tells me the refs are gonna give a lot of calls to Green Bay now just to show there's no conspiracy or Dallas bias.

This was going to happen regardless, but it certainly gives the refs and the league an out.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Looks like Romo's releasing it to me. You're talking about a split second decision on this one. It takes less than a second for Romo to go through his throwing motion.

Fastest release in the game.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

sure, you could make the case for holding, but it doesn't explain/excuse the 80 yards that followed, and at 7-0, it was hardly at a critical point in the game.

Look asshole. It's 3rd and 8. If Crawford doesn't get tackled, he sacks Stafford at the 5 yard line and makes it 4th and 17. They are punting that bitch. By not making the hold call, Stafford gets the 1st down and then they are able to move the ball down the field.

 

[peplaw06]

it was hardly at a critical point in the game.

that's lame... a hold is a hold is a hold, whenever it occurs. I don't want calls being made differently earlier in the game than they are later in the game. But if anything, refs are less likely to throw the flag when it gets later in the contest.

 

[bbgun]

Look asshole. It's 3rd and 8. If Crawford doesn't get tackled, he sacks Stafford at the 5 yard line and makes it 4th and 17. They are punting that bitch. By not making the hold call, Stafford gets the 1st down and then they are able to move the ball down the field.

Actually, because Stafford picked up the first down, it would have been 3rd and 15 after the penalty--not easy to convert, but not implausible either.

that's lame... a hold is a hold is a hold, whenever it occurs. I don't want calls being made differently earlier in the game than they are later in the game. But if anything, refs are less likely to throw the flag when it gets later in the contest.

agreed, which is why it doesn't matter if Suh got to Romo or not. he was being held, and that's a penalty

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Look asshole. It's 3rd and 8. If Crawford doesn't get tackled, he sacks Stafford at the 5 yard line and makes it 4th and 17. They are punting that bitch. By not making the hold call, Stafford gets the 1st down and then they are able to move the ball down the field.

Yea, it's not like keeping our d off the field and not having to trail/throw a ton early isn't a part of our game plan or nothing

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Actually, because Stafford picked up the first down, it would have been 3rd and 15 after the penalty--not easy to convert, but not implausible either.
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This is intellectually obtuse bro.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Especially so bc they were at 3rd and 15 which is the same as (if you call suh hold) 4&15. Bc they weren't gonna go for it at their own 1.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Something tells me the refs are gonna give a lot of calls to Green Bay now just to show there's no conspiracy or Dallas bias.

Thats my fear.

Cowboys will probably be flagged a season high this Sunday.

Everyone knows the Cowboys were gifted 13 wins this season.

 

[peplaw06]

agreed, which is why it doesn't matter if Suh got to Romo or not. he was being held, and that's a penalty

Two different points...

One, is that you claimed Crawford's penalty was less egregious because it wasn't at a critical point in the game. That's BS.

Two, is that a hold is a hold... but in order for it to be a hold, the pass can't have been thrown. Because of the split-second nature of this play, it's reasonable to believe the ref saw the hold, but determined that the pass had already been thrown.

Anyone can go back and go frame by frame and see holds that weren't called in slow motion. It's another thing to see this in full speed live action and to determine that the pass hasn't been thrown at the time the player is held and a flag should be thrown. Suh went to the ground on this play, which is another thing the ref looks for... but it happened well after the ball was gone.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Actually, because Stafford picked up the first down, it would have been 3rd and 15 after the penalty--not easy to convert, but not implausible either.

3rd and 18, because it was already 3rd and 8 and the hold would have been 10 yards.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Thats my fear.

Cowboys will probably be flagged a season high this Sunday.

Everyone knows the Cowboys were gifted 13 wins this season.

Man shut the fuck up. Where do you come wit this bullshit? Gifted how? And why would they gift us 13 games and not all 16 to ensure we have a 1st round bye?

You've topped bbgun's stupidity.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Here's another way to look at things.


The league overturning Suh's 1-game suspension, is not much different from the refs reversing their call.