Montrae Holland set for start on Cowboys offensive line

[Jon88]

Well if we didn't cut Petitti, Jacob Rogers, Peterman, Fabini, Marten, and E.J. Whitley--- all these guys Parcells had drafted, but instead kept them, they'd be hitting their PRIME right now and being all world.

I agree. I'd say this has been a joke but it's not funny.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Thanks. I love being corrected.

Wasn't correcting you. You said this needed to be his last year, and it will be. You're getting what you want. Kosier has been serviceable. But we need and infusion of youth on the Oline. Quality youth.

 

[Jon88]

Wasn't correcting you. You said this needed to be his last year, and it will be. You're getting what you want. Kosier has been serviceable. But we need and infusion of youth on the Oline. Quality youth.

I agree. We've needed it for a year or two but since we can't draft for shit we're kinda stuck.

 

[Sheik]

Absolute best case scenerio, imo, is the offensive line gets fixed by 2012, that's if we hit on a few draft pics and find a player or two in free agency.

 

[sbk92]

Absolute best case scenerio, imo, is the offensive line gets fixed by 2012, that's if we hit on a few draft pics and find a player or two in free agency.

The best case scenario is Free is better than I think he is and we only need to find 4 new linemen. That would still take a few years though.

 

[Jon88]

The best case scenario is Free is better than I think he is and we only need to find 4 new linemen. That would still take a few years though.

He's a really good right tackle. I think he can move over to the left and do well there too. I'm not worried at all. He'll at least be as good as Flozell was last year and that's not hard to do.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I agree. We've needed it for a year or two but since we can't draft for shit we're kinda stuck.

It's not that we cannot draft Oline men, it's just that Jerry doesn't put a premium on it. He thinks he can put any big ol body out there and be fine.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

When Jerry re-signed Gurode, that was when he should have drafted for his replacement. When you have starters on the Oline and they reach the age of 28, that is when you draft for their replacement, because you assume you can get at least two more years out of that starter to where they become 30, and his replacement will already gain an additional 2 years of training from the bench to where they become quality-starting material depth players, then you can keep said starter either for one more year for good measure, but when they hit 32, put the replacement in as starter.

 

[Jon88]

I don't want to comment about how Jerry is so foolish with the oline so I won't.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

There is absolutely no excuse for going NOT going after Oline in the neext draft. Oline in either the 1st or 2nd round---preferebly both.

On offense, we don't need an RB. Barber may be gone after this season, but we do not need an RB with either of the first three picks.

We don't need any WRs. Roy may be gone after this season, but still WR is not an immediate need with the first 3 picks.

We damn sure do not need any TEs, especially with Phillips coming back the following year.

I wouldn't be averse for drafting a better backup QB. Despite his showing against Miami, I am not sold on McGee. Give him some competition.

On defense, with the Dline... we don't need to use any of our first three picks on either an NT or DE. I think the Cowboys need to do some fence-mending with Spears. I think we might end up keeping Spears and either Hatcher or Bowens. I don't think that both of those guys will be able to be starters on other teams. They're better in rotation, so I see us keeping Spears and one of them.

OLB and ILB is not a need with our first 3 picks. Maybe next year with ILB.

I thinkw e can hold off for thsi year on drafting Newman's replacement, so that only leaves safety.

So next year, on our first three picks, we should go after interior OL, QB, and safety. Or 2 OL (interior and tackle) and maybe QB.

 

[Sheik]

At least a majority, if not all of us, get that there is a problem along the offensive line. As I check out other forums and read peoples thoughts, most are taking the "Wait and see" approach. I'm also reading that there was A LOT of turnover on the line this offseason.

Flozell is gone, wut else?

 

[Jon88]

There is absolutely no excuse for going NOT going after Oline in the neext draft. Oline in either the 1st or 2nd round---preferebly both.

On offense, we don't need an RB. Barber may be gone after this season, but we do not need an RB with either of the first three picks.

We don't need any WRs. Roy may be gone after this season, but still WR is not an immediate need with the first 3 picks.

We damn sure do not need any TEs, especially with Phillips coming back the following year.

I wouldn't be averse for drafting a better backup QB. Despite his showing against Miami, I am not sold on McGee. Give him some competition.

On defense, with the Dline... we don't need to use any of our first three picks on either an NT or DE. I think the Cowboys need to do some fence-mending with Spears. I think we might end up keeping Spears and either Hatcher or Bowens. I don't think that both of those guys will be able to be starters on other teams. They're better in rotation, so I see us keeping Spears and one of them.

OLB and ILB is not a need with our first 3 picks. Maybe next year with ILB.

I thinkw e can hold off for thsi year on drafting Newman's replacement, so that only leaves safety.

So next year, on our first three picks, we should go after interior OL, QB, and safety. Or 2 OL (interior and tackle) and maybe QB.

I won't disagree with that one bit.

 

[Cr122]

There is absolutely no excuse for going NOT going after Oline in the neext draft. Oline in either the 1st or 2nd round---preferebly both.

On offense, we don't need an RB. Barber may be gone after this season, but we do not need an RB with either of the first three picks.

We don't need any WRs. Roy may be gone after this season, but still WR is not an immediate need with the first 3 picks.

We damn sure do not need any TEs, especially with Phillips coming back the following year.

I wouldn't be averse for drafting a better backup QB. Despite his showing against Miami, I am not sold on McGee. Give him some competition.

On defense, with the Dline... we don't need to use any of our first three picks on either an NT or DE. I think the Cowboys need to do some fence-mending with Spears. I think we might end up keeping Spears and either Hatcher or Bowens. I don't think that both of those guys will be able to be starters on other teams. They're better in rotation, so I see us keeping Spears and one of them.

OLB and ILB is not a need with our first 3 picks. Maybe next year with ILB.

I thinkw e can hold off for thsi year on drafting Newman's replacement, so that only leaves safety.

So next year, on our first three picks, we should go after interior OL, QB, and safety. Or 2 OL (interior and tackle) and maybe QB.

Good post, LL.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Brewster has Jerry reach stank on him. Eeeeeew.

Young is a guy who showed up at ND with a ton of hype and never lived up to it. He wasn't anything more than a decent college T. I don't know how anyone can expect him to excel stepping up to the big leagues. I think he's a career backup.

In a perfect world, Brewster, Young and Costa would become better than average starters. But we know that isn't going to happen. If we ended up with one better than average starter out of that group I'd be pleased. If we ended up with two then I'd be ecstatic.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

With only 3 corners on the roster and Teddy Williams, who's about as rough as they come the only corner on the PS, I think the present scenario pushes the need for a corner to be drafted early next year. Maybe not #1, but no lower than a 3rd. This team is far better off at safety.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

At least a majority, if not all of us, get that there is a problem along the offensive line. As I check out other forums and read peoples thoughts, most are taking the "Wait and see" approach. I'm also reading that there was A LOT of turnover on the line this offseason.

Flozell is gone, wut else?

Certainly 20% of your starting oline changing isn't a lot of turnover, but the reserves certainly did. And maybe out of those reserves one guy can be a legit starter.

 

[Sheik]

Certainly 20% of your starting oline changing isn't a lot of turnover, but the reserves certainly did. And maybe out of those reserves one guy can be a legit starter.

I hope so. If Free doesn't pan out, it's kinda like where do we go from there? If Free turns out to be a jag at left tackle, he may still end up being a very good right tackle, so there is that.

I felt like our secondary, safties mainly held us back from winning big when BP was here, now I feel like this Oline is going to do the same thing for the next few years.

I'm hoping the line gets a little tired of all the negative speak and comes out ready to prove something as a group.

Who knows?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I hope so. If Free doesn't pan out, it's kinda like where do we go from there? If Free turns out to be a jag at left tackle, he may still end up being a very good right tackle, so there is that.

I felt like our secondary, safties mainly held us back from winning big when BP was here, now I feel like this Oline is going to do the same thing for the next few years.

I'm hoping the line gets a little tired of all the negative speak and comes out ready to prove something as a group.

Who knows?

I wouldn't worry about Free.

I think we're A-OK at LT.

You know Davis will be here for at least another couple of seasons.

Gurode? Realistically at least two more unless this kid Costa turns out to be a player and Gurode is either released or moved to LG... Which is possible.

I think this is the last season for the other two.

 

[Midswat]

I like Free as well. The rest . . . eh.

We're in need of a youth infusion, no question. But I don't think we need to flat out say our first round pick has to be a lineman. You can get good lineman later in the draft. We . . . just haven't, despite our efforts.

Clearly, line is a need. But if a stud falls to us, a la Dez, then I'd hate to think we pass on him because we have a hole at guard.

Besides . . . the only line position I feel is justified in the first is a LT. And again, I think we're set at that.

And remember, we're going to have the 32nd pick.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well really anything past #15 and you aren't going to get a tackle who can step right in start the season.

Generally speaking quality guards, centers, safeties, and tight-ends are there at the end of the first round.

One of the storylines this year will be any (at all) progress of the young back-up olinemen. That'll determine where this team goes come the 1st round. I agree with SBK, that you take the best available prospect, but it has to be a position of need if you're going to spend that kind of cash on a first round pick. I mean another running back isn't going to cut it. And I doubt they would look at QB, WR, TE, LB. Offensive line, defensive line, defensive backfield... All reasonable options.