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Rays need to get out of Tampa Bay

By Steve Berthiaume
ESPN.com


The Tampa Bay Rays must be moved. The Rays’ barely tenable existence in St. Petersburg, Fla., is getting worse and it’s becoming, to borrow a word from star pitcher David Price in describing a critical but sparsely attended game late last season, “embarrassing.” This is not about assigning blame. The Rays have some passionate and supportive fans. There are simply not enough of them. The franchise has done the best it can with a suffocating stadium lease. The past three seasons have been the most successful in Rays’ history, but those seasons have produced no attendance momentum. In fact, Rays attendance figures and local television ratings this season are in decline. Baseball needs to lower its rope and let the Rays climb out of their sinkhole.

Rays owner Stuart Sternberg, through the team’s communications office, declined an interview request. Sternberg did tell the Tampa Tribune earlier this month, “I know we can’t sustain ourselves like this. It hasn’t gotten better. If anything, it’s worse.” Sternberg added, “To run a payroll like we do now, basically the second-lowest in baseball, and barely keep our nose above water, we can’t sustain that.” Sternberg doesn’t often speak publicly about his team’s pressing stadium issue, instead leaving that to competing politicians on both sides of the bay. Sternberg did, however, tell the St. Petersburg Times in March that “nothing dramatic” is happening regarding a new stadium for the Rays and warned, “Baseball is just not going to stand for it anymore. And they’ll find a place for me. They won’t find a place here though.” Nor should they.

Last season, the Rays won 96 games and the AL East title. The organization put a superb product on the field but may have hit an attendance plateau with an average of 23,025 fans per game, which put it at ninth in the 14-team American League and 22nd in all of baseball. Last July, an impressive 70.9 percent jump in local TV ratings, as reported by Sports Business Journal, was used as an argument that the fans were there but were simply choosing to watch from home. This season, however, fewer locals are watching -- either from box seats or Barcaloungers. The Rays are currently last in the AL in attendance, averaging 18,485 fans per game, the second-worst attendance average in baseball, ahead of only the Marlins. That’s a drop of more than 5,000 fans per game from 2010. Rays viewership on Sun Sports, as reported by Tampa Bay Online last month, was down 34 percent and on average had dropped by about 30,000 households in the Tampa Bay area through the same point last year, according to Nielsen figures.

The Sternberg ownership group has worked tirelessly to repackage the product. A marketing campaign was launched around a new name, logo and color scheme and the ballpark was spruced up with as much cosmetic change as architecture would allow. The organization made fan friendliness a priority and maintained affordable ticket prices. In fact, in its annual “Best Franchises In Sports” rankings released last week, ESPN The Magazine determined the Rays offer the most “Bang for the Buck” among all 30 major league teams and ranked the Rays as the second most affordable team in professional sports behind only the Angels. If such an exciting team is also baseball's best bargain, then why are the games so sparsely attended? One answer can be found in that same poll, which rated the Rays 111th out of 122 professional franchises for "stadium experience."

Tropicana Field is located in St. Petersburg, in Pinellas County. To get there, the bulk of the Tampa Bay area’s population must fight through downtown Tampa’s rush-hour traffic only to arrive at a bridge bottleneck trying to make the three-mile journey across the bay to downtown St. Petersburg. “Murder” is how one area baseball fan described the commute to me, all to get to a ballpark that is hardly one of baseball’s crown jewels. A more appealing ballpark built on the Tampa side of the bay, in Hillsborough County, has long been considered the best solution, but the Rays are committed to gloomy Tropicana Field through 2027 and St. Petersburg mayor Bill Foster, according to an April 1 story in the St. Petersburg Times, has refused to grant the Rays permission to explore other potential stadium sites in the Tampa Bay area. On June 9, Foster told the paper, “The Rays aren’t going to Tampa or Hillsborough County,” adding that if anybody on the Tampa side of the bay "wants to keep the Rays in the region, then they need to drive over here and support the team in St. Petersburg.” A majority of fans have clearly shown they're not willing to do that, but some numbers also suggest a new park in Tampa may not be the answer, either.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers were one of the NFL’s most exciting teams in 2010, going 10-6. The Bucs were also the only NFL team to have all eight of its home games blacked out on local television and the only team to see a double-digit attendance drop, down a staggering 24.9 percent from 2009 to just 49,314 fans, according to Sports Business Daily. Even the almighty NFL is not immune in Tampa, apparently.

The NHL’s Tampa Bay Lightning came within one game of the Stanley Cup finals. After three seasons of declining attendance, the Lightning's playoff run boosted ticket sales to 17,268 per game, but still good enough for only 18th out of 30 NHL teams. With the housing market still struggling, the Florida Agency for Workforce Innovation reported the Tampa Bay area’s unemployment rate was 10.5 percent last month. However, an AWI economist pointed out that if that number included underutilized workers, those limited to part-time jobs, the unemployment rate would be more than 18 percent. With an erratic economy, a unique geography that can make for challenging commutes, a population that’s in large part either elderly or transient and limited corporate sponsorship possibilities, where is the fan base from which to draw and compete?

The Wall Street Journal reported that Minnesota’s Target Field cost $545 million, with taxpayers in Minneapolis’ Hennepin County responsible for $350 million of that bill. In addition, a retractable roof, such as the one the Rays would need to avoid the Florida heat and rain, would have cost the Twins another $200 million. The Tropicana Field lease coupled with a new ballpark’s high price tag and the lack of another viable, major league-ready market to which the Rays could move, have all created a painful stall that can’t last much longer. As Sternberg told the St. Petersburg Times in February, “Every year that goes by increases the possibility that we won’t be here. If there is something inevitable, you have to deal with it. At some point, my partners in baseball are going to throw their hands up in the air and say, ‘enough is enough.’”

Aren’t the Rays at that point now? Through 36 home games, the Rays have drawn more than 20,000 fans just 16 times and only on either weekends or when the Red Sox or Yankees are in town. One three-game series against the defending AL champion Rangers averaged 13,570 fans per game. Another against the Blue Jays drew an average of 11,009 fans. The Rays’ average attendance of 18,485 fans per game is less than half what the Red Sox draw every time Fenway Park’s gates open and more than 25,000 fewer than the Yankees average every home game. When you then consider the Rays' lack of a cash cow regional sports network, such as NESN in Boston or YES in New York, you wonder how the franchise can ever hope to sustain any long-term success while in such direct competition. This season the Rays cut their Opening Day payroll by $30 million, down to just more than $41 million, the second-lowest in baseball ahead of only the Royals. Ticket prices are already at a minimum. Established veterans have been allowed to leave simply because the Rays could not afford to keep them. There is nothing left to cut.

Again: This is not about assigning blame. Nobody is a bad person for not attending a baseball game. Even with 30 new ballparks one major league team would still have to be last in attendance, and even with a new stadium on the Tampa side, there is nothing to suggest that team wouldn’t be the Rays. The Tampa Bay area is a great place. It just hasn’t been a great place for Major League Baseball to do business.
 
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Roy Oswalt leaves with back tightness

Associated Press | June 23, 2011
ST. LOUIS -- Phillies right-hander Roy Oswalt left his start against the St. Louis Cardinals on Thursday night after two innings because of tightness in his lower back.

Oswalt gave up four runs on five hits and departed trailing 4-0. It was his shortest stint since a two-inning effort on September 10, 2009.

Oswalt gave up a home run in the first to Jon Jay. He then allowed three successive singles to begin the second inning.

The 33-year-old Oswalt was on the disabled list from April 27-May 16 with lower back inflammation. A three-time NL All-Star, Oswalt has won 10 or more games in nine of his 10 seasons. He threw 37 pitches on Thursday -- 26 for strikes.
 

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Roy Oswalt leaves with back tightness

Associated Press | June 23, 2011
ST. LOUIS -- Phillies right-hander Roy Oswalt left his start against the St. Louis Cardinals on Thursday night after two innings because of tightness in his lower back.

Oswalt gave up four runs on five hits and departed trailing 4-0. It was his shortest stint since a two-inning effort on September 10, 2009.

Oswalt gave up a home run in the first to Jon Jay. He then allowed three successive singles to begin the second inning.

The 33-year-old Oswalt was on the disabled list from April 27-May 16 with lower back inflammation. A three-time NL All-Star, Oswalt has won 10 or more games in nine of his 10 seasons. He threw 37 pitches on Thursday -- 26 for strikes.

I miss Oswalt but I think letting him go was the right move.
 

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It is true that the Marlins couldn't fill the stadium when they did win.

Look at the Rays the last several years. One of the top teams in all of baseball. Nobody cares. Their home crowd is a joke.

So is that stadium they play in.
 

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Complete joke. They should move that team the hell out of there. .

Baseball needs contraction pretty bad. There are far too many teams now. Getting rid of 2, or maybe even 4 teams would improve the overall product alot IMO.
 
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I miss Oswalt but I think letting him go was the right move.

He'll never get back to form when he was with the Astros, but he still can be an effective part of the rotation, especially in the playoffs, unless his back is a lot worse than we think.

The Phillies will be there in the end, probably winning the World Series. They're that good.
 
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Updated: June 24, 2011, 12:30 PM ET
Francisco Rodriguez open to setup

New York Mets right-hander Francisco Rodriguez says he would give up his closer's role if he were traded to a contender.

"If I am going to be traded, obviously I want the opportunity to close out games, but if it's going to be good teams like the Yankees or the Rays, and it's going to be for two months, I can go out there and help them out," Rodriguez said Thursday, according to the New York Daily News.



The Mets are 37-38 and in fourth place in the NL East, 9½ games behind the Phillies. With the team facing financial uncertainty related to the lawsuit brought by the trustee for victims of Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme, players such as Rodriguez and shortstop Jose Reyes could be shopped leading up to next month's trade deadline.


The Yankees have been down this road before, and it didn't work out so well. This offseason, they signed Rafael Soriano, who saved 45 games for the Rays last season, to be the setup man for Mariano Rivera. But Soriano struggled in limited action early this year and currently sits on the disabled list with an elbow injury.

The Mets have incentive to dump Rodriguez. He has a $17.5 million vesting option for 2012 that kicks in if he finishes 55 games this season. He already has finished 28. If a team picks him up to be a setup man, that issue wouldn't come into play.

Rodriguez also has a no-trade clause to 10 teams, but he doesn't believe it's a big deal.

"Honestly, I don't even know what (teams) are on the no-trade clause, I haven't even been asked about that yet," Rodriguez said, according to the Daily News. "I mean, I would definitely love to stay here, but I have to be open to every possibility out there right now."

Rodriguez has 20 saves and a 3.25 ERA this season.

Yankees general manager Brian Cashman told the Daily News that he's not against making a deal with the crosstown Mets.

"I've done three deals with them and they were all pretty big," Cashman said. "(Armando) Benitez was a big name. (Robin) Ventura for David Justice was kind of a big deal, our need for their need.

"But it's complicated because ... no one wants to make a mistake in their own back yard. ... No one's going to make that type of mistake too easily. The only way you would typically line up to do something is if the opposing side is so motivated to move whatever they've got."
 

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Nats name John McLaren named interim manager

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CHICAGO -- John McLaren is moving from bench coach to interim manager of the Washington Nationals following the stunning resignation of Jim Riggleman.

He probably won't hold the position for long.

McLaren's duties began Friday when the Nationals opened a three-game series against the Chicago White Sox at U.S. Cellular Field.

General manager Mike Rizzo said Friday that McLaren is an interim manager for days and not weeks. He added that the Nationals have already talked to several candidates to be the interim manager for the rest of the 2011 season. Included on that list is former major league manager Davey Johnson, who is currently a senior adviser to Rizzo.

"We haven't really nailed down exactly who yet. We haven't closed any deals so I'm reluctant to say at this point," Rizzo said before Friday night's game.

"Davey Johnson is one of names we've discussed and we've talked to. He and several other names we are actively talking to," he said.

Johnson has managed the Baltimore Orioles, New York Mets, Cincinnati Reds and Los Angeles Dodgers.

The Nationals had won 11 of 12 before Riggleman quit after a 1-0 victory over the Seattle Mariners on Thursday, saying he felt the franchise wasn't committed to him over the long term.

Riggleman wanted the Nationals to pick up his contract option for next year and said the reluctance of Rizzo to have a meeting on the subject reinforced his feeling that he was merely a placeholder until the team could find someone better.

"I've never considered myself a quitter," Riggleman said Friday on ESPN 1000 in Chicago. "I think if I had stayed on and it would have been festering with me, and I would have been able to manage the nine innings, the distraction before and after the game with my attitude about it and not being able to have the same energy and upbeat attitude it takes to run a ballclub, before and after the game, that would have been a distraction to the ballclub. It was already becoming a distraction, as I was getting irritated about it."

McLaren, who was 68-88 over parts of two seasons managing the Mariners, has a history with Riggleman. He was the Mariners' bench coach and replaced Mike Hargrove when he quit midseason in 2007. When McLaren was replaced in 2008, the interim job went to Riggleman, who'd been McLaren's bench coach with the Mariners.

McLaren then ended up being Riggleman's bench coach with the Nationals.

"Shocked, blindsided. It caught me off-guard. Jim and I talked all the time. I knew he'd been upset for quite a while," McLaren said Friday. "This just kept building on him, and like I said, I'm blown away. I had no idea this was going to take place."

McLaren said he'd been told he'd manage Friday night and then the Nationals would go from there. And he was fine with that.

"Winning 11 of 12, you never expect anything like this," McLaren said. "I feel bad for Jim, he's a good friend. I know he had a lot on his mind. I felt like we were going in the right direction. I was totally blindsided."

McLaren said he never hesitated when Rizzo approached him about taking the job on such a short-term basis.

"We've got to move on. Like I said, Jim made his decision and I know it was a difficult decision for him to make," McLaren said. "I don't think anybody else can answer why he did it. He has to speak for himself, and I think he has. It is what it is."

Veteran Jerry Hairston Jr. became emotional when trying to explain what Riggleman's shocking departure meant to the team.

"I'm a little upset, I'm trying not to say what I want to say. It's just one of those things that's unfortunate," Hairston said as he stood in the Nationals' dugout.

"It's one of those things where I never want to put myself in somebody else's shoes. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. During the course of a season, we're going to have our ups and downs, but you never think a manager would probably leave," he said.

White Sox DH Adam Dunn, who spent the previous two seasons with the Nationals, said the timing of Riggleman's resignation was weird.

"I've had managers get fired. Nothing like that. That's pretty tough. Maybe I could understand it if they weren't playing well or something," Dunn said. "But it seems like things were turning around a little bit for them.

"For your so-called leader to walk out on you, that's pretty bad," he said.

Nationals star Ryan Zimmerman said he was shocked over Riggleman's decision.

"Obviously you respect the manager, you respect Jim. He's a great guy. Baseball, you're with guys so many hours a day, it's like you're second family," Zimmerman said. "He's not out on the field playing, so it's an interesting situation. It's different. Not too many people have had to deal with it ever. It's tough, but at the same time, we just have to continue playing like we've been playing and finish out the season strong."

Riggleman is the second manager in the majors to resign this week. Florida Marlins skipper Edwin Rodriguez quit Sunday, but his team was struggling and in last place in the NL East.

"For whatever reason, whenever you resign from a job, and especially this job, it takes a lot of guts and a lot of thinking," White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen said. "They used to fire managers and now they resign. That's kind of untypical."
 
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He'll never get back to form when he was with the Astros, but he still can be an effective part of the rotation, especially in the playoffs.

The Phillies will be there in the end, probably winning the World Series. They're that good.

Clearly haven't watched him at all since he's been traded.
 
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Clearly haven't watched him at all since he's been traded.

He started out very strong for the Phillies this year, until he left for personal reasons to check on his family, because of Tornadoes in Mississippi.

Then when he returned he was having back problems. This is a reoccurring back injury so if he needs any kind of back surgery he may be done for his career.

That could hurt the Phillies chances this year.
 
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He started out very strong for the Phillies this year, until he left for personal reasons to check on his family, because of Tornadoes in Mississippi.

Then when he returned he was having back problems. This is a reoccurring back injury so if he needs any kind of back surgery he may be done for his career.

That could hurt the Phillies chances this year.

No doubt. That was kinda my point though.. up until he left this season, he was the best pitcher we had since he came over in the trade.
 

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The Marlins are loved so dearly in Florida, they are playing a home series in Seattle this weekend because of a U2 concert at their own stadium lol
 
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