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The Bills signed this guy as a FA and he sucked... Just sucked.
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I remembe right when he returned to Washington how those stink fans reminisced over how great he was.
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They do that with everyone that signs with them.
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We have serious OL issues but these guys are trying hard to sign and draft OL and can't get it right.
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ESPN: Redskins eye veteran WR
Though it can be hard to make heads or tails of all the goings-on in Washington, D.C. sometimes, one thing's for certain: the Washington Redskins need to address their wide receiver depth this offseason.
In an effort to get a head-start on the process, they will be meeting with free agent Andre Davis, according to KRIV-TV (per Pro Football Talk).
Davis -- also a weapon in the return game -- has previous experience with Kyle Shanahan with the Houston Texans, so he may offer some value-added benefits in that he should know the fundamentals of the offensive scheme. So if he's signed, he could help new draftees and signees pick up the intricacies whenever practices and meetings start back up after the new CBA is reached.
Though it can be hard to make heads or tails of all the goings-on in Washington, D.C. sometimes, one thing's for certain: the Washington Redskins need to address their wide receiver depth this offseason.
In an effort to get a head-start on the process, they will be meeting with free agent Andre Davis, according to KRIV-TV (per Pro Football Talk).
Davis -- also a weapon in the return game -- has previous experience with Kyle Shanahan with the Houston Texans, so he may offer some value-added benefits in that he should know the fundamentals of the offensive scheme. So if he's signed, he could help new draftees and signees pick up the intricacies whenever practices and meetings start back up after the new CBA is reached.
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He's a better Returner than WR. He would help a team with 2 quality WRs already like the other 3 NFC EAst teams. Not so much in DC.
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So he's a younger Joey Galloway.
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They'd be better off keeping Moss.
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Ayuh, they need him. All it takes is a double team on Armstrong and their screwed.
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Redskins player rep Vonnie Holliday says sides “not in the same ballpark”
Redskins player rep Vonnie Holliday says sides “not in the same ballpark”
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 3, 2011, 6:19 PM EST
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Redskins NFLPA rep Vonnie Holliday isn’t feeling more optimistic about the labor situation despite the league and union agreeing on a 24-hour extension to continue talking.
Holliday told Lindsay Czarniak of NBC4 in Washington that the two sides “are not in the same ballpark” and have not discussed major issues. He told the Washington Post that owners still haven’t given a formal proposal, so the NFLPA has little to discuss.
Holliday’s words run somewhat contrary to the widespread reports that the league made a proposal Thursday that included some compromise. Perhaps it wasn’t a formal proposal, but something significant happened Thursday.
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen said the league made a proposal that the union viewed in a positive light and it got the ball rolling for progress. The union also reportedly made some concessions.
Despite Holliday’s comments, an extension can’t be viewed as a bad thing for NFL fans. Especially if it forces another, longer extension.
Redskins player rep Vonnie Holliday says sides “not in the same ballpark”
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on March 3, 2011, 6:19 PM EST
Roger Goodell
Redskins NFLPA rep Vonnie Holliday isn’t feeling more optimistic about the labor situation despite the league and union agreeing on a 24-hour extension to continue talking.
Holliday told Lindsay Czarniak of NBC4 in Washington that the two sides “are not in the same ballpark” and have not discussed major issues. He told the Washington Post that owners still haven’t given a formal proposal, so the NFLPA has little to discuss.
Holliday’s words run somewhat contrary to the widespread reports that the league made a proposal Thursday that included some compromise. Perhaps it wasn’t a formal proposal, but something significant happened Thursday.
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen said the league made a proposal that the union viewed in a positive light and it got the ball rolling for progress. The union also reportedly made some concessions.
Despite Holliday’s comments, an extension can’t be viewed as a bad thing for NFL fans. Especially if it forces another, longer extension.
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What would you expect from a Skin's player ?
Atogwe to Redskins
Although the free safety position was down on the list of offseason defensive needs for the 2011 Washington Redskins, somewhere behind nose tackle, pass-rushing outside linebacker, and, if Carlos Rogers leaves via free agency, cornerback, the signing of O. J. Atogwe was a good start towards improving the team’s defense.
The Rams released Atogwe on Feb. 18 rather than paying him an $8 million roster bonus. That made him a free agent who was able to sign with any team until the NFL entered its labor situation limbo at midnight on Thursday. Atogwe immediately went to visit the Redskins, the employers of Jim Haslett, his defensive coordinator in St. Louis. He had his best years in St. Louis playing for Haslett, including 2007 when he led the NFC with eight interceptions.
Although his visit to Ashburn was described as positive, he left without a contract. This is the Redskins’ new way of doing business. Under Vinny Cerrato, the team would have bid against itself for Atogwe’s signature on a contract and they would not have let him leave without signing on the line. Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, however, let him leave and go out and talk to other teams. After both Atogwe and the Redskins were able to get a feel for the player’s true market value, they were able to come to what appears to be a reasonable contract offer.
The contract is reported to be worth $26 million over five years. Unless there is some crazy amount of guaranteed money in the deal, it seems to be a good agreement for both sides. The Redskins can check off one of their offseason needs and Atogwe can go into the labor purgatory with a signing bonus check in the bank and with some idea of what kind of defense he will be playing in 2011.
Haslett has described Atogwe as a “ball magnet” and the Redskins certainly will be able to use his skills in the secondary. Kareem Moore, who started 11 games at free safety in 2010, had one interception. The Redskins have been looking for a free safety with some ball hawking skills since Sean Taylor died in 2007.
Moore seemed to be lost in coverage at times last year, something that should not happen with Atogwe. Former Redskins safety Matt Bowen, writing in the National Football Post, said, “With Atogwe, you have a proven playmaker that understands pro route schemes, takes good angles to the ball and forces turnovers.”
“Especially with today’s offenses, having a free safety with range and proven ball skills—like we see from Atogwe—is priceless when you put together a defensive game plan.”
Although the Atogwe signing does make the Redskins better in 2011, it does continue the pattern of acquiring veteran solutions to fill needs rather than doing so via the draft. Atogwe will be 30 in June. He certainly has some good years left in him and free safety is one of those positions where players can make up for losing a step or two with playing smart. Still, inserting him into the lineup goes counter to the team’s stated goal of trying to get younger.
But you can’t make up for years of bad drafting in one or two offseasons. It is hard to argue against signing a quality player at a position of need even if he is approaching the wrong side of 30.
Rich Tandler also blogs about the Redskins at www.RealRedskins.com. You can contact him at RTandlerCSN@comcast.net.
Although the free safety position was down on the list of offseason defensive needs for the 2011 Washington Redskins, somewhere behind nose tackle, pass-rushing outside linebacker, and, if Carlos Rogers leaves via free agency, cornerback, the signing of O. J. Atogwe was a good start towards improving the team’s defense.
The Rams released Atogwe on Feb. 18 rather than paying him an $8 million roster bonus. That made him a free agent who was able to sign with any team until the NFL entered its labor situation limbo at midnight on Thursday. Atogwe immediately went to visit the Redskins, the employers of Jim Haslett, his defensive coordinator in St. Louis. He had his best years in St. Louis playing for Haslett, including 2007 when he led the NFC with eight interceptions.
Although his visit to Ashburn was described as positive, he left without a contract. This is the Redskins’ new way of doing business. Under Vinny Cerrato, the team would have bid against itself for Atogwe’s signature on a contract and they would not have let him leave without signing on the line. Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan, however, let him leave and go out and talk to other teams. After both Atogwe and the Redskins were able to get a feel for the player’s true market value, they were able to come to what appears to be a reasonable contract offer.
The contract is reported to be worth $26 million over five years. Unless there is some crazy amount of guaranteed money in the deal, it seems to be a good agreement for both sides. The Redskins can check off one of their offseason needs and Atogwe can go into the labor purgatory with a signing bonus check in the bank and with some idea of what kind of defense he will be playing in 2011.
Haslett has described Atogwe as a “ball magnet” and the Redskins certainly will be able to use his skills in the secondary. Kareem Moore, who started 11 games at free safety in 2010, had one interception. The Redskins have been looking for a free safety with some ball hawking skills since Sean Taylor died in 2007.
Moore seemed to be lost in coverage at times last year, something that should not happen with Atogwe. Former Redskins safety Matt Bowen, writing in the National Football Post, said, “With Atogwe, you have a proven playmaker that understands pro route schemes, takes good angles to the ball and forces turnovers.”
“Especially with today’s offenses, having a free safety with range and proven ball skills—like we see from Atogwe—is priceless when you put together a defensive game plan.”
Although the Atogwe signing does make the Redskins better in 2011, it does continue the pattern of acquiring veteran solutions to fill needs rather than doing so via the draft. Atogwe will be 30 in June. He certainly has some good years left in him and free safety is one of those positions where players can make up for losing a step or two with playing smart. Still, inserting him into the lineup goes counter to the team’s stated goal of trying to get younger.
But you can’t make up for years of bad drafting in one or two offseasons. It is hard to argue against signing a quality player at a position of need even if he is approaching the wrong side of 30.
Rich Tandler also blogs about the Redskins at www.RealRedskins.com. You can contact him at RTandlerCSN@comcast.net.
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Just like every other player on that squad.
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If you thought Marcus Spears was a bad 1st round pick. Look at Vonnie HOlliday. What a chump.
edit: nvm, he's had a pretty decent career.
edit: nvm, he's had a pretty decent career.
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Then why the hell extend it then. WTF.