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By Tim MacMahon
ESPNDallas.com


DALLAS -- While Dallas Cowboys owner/general manager Jerry Jones declined to predict the length of the looming NFL lockout, he is prepared for a collective bargaining agreement battle that would wipe out the entire offseason.

"What counts is, are we going to be playing in the fall? Are we going to be playing in the fall?" Jones said Tuesday during a press conference at the Super Bowl media center. "Not hang our hats on [organized team activities], how many offseason workouts, how much of all that. Are we going to be playing in the fall?

"I am one of the leaders of the pack on playing in the fall. I've got 31 right even with me as far as the owners are concerned. We want to be playing in the fall."

The lockout would begin in early March if the players' union and owners do not reach an agreement before the old collective bargaining agreement expires.

Jones reiterated his stance that he wants to expand the regular season to 18 games while reducing the preseason to two games, adding that he believes fans would be in favor of that schedule. The lengthening of the regular season is expected to be a sticking point between owners and players.

Jones also indicated that there needed to be major adjustments made in how the league's billions of dollars of revenue are split.

"It is incumbent on us to recognize what we had in place is not a good model," Jones said. "Rather than waiting until we're in the shape the country is in or the world is in when things have gone to hell in a handbasket economically, we make some of those changes we'd love to have made 10 or 15 years ago in this country or other countries. You do it before you're off the cliff rather than when you're driving off the cliff."

Jones said there will probably need to be a "real" threat of having games canceled before an new agreement is reached.

"Those things are fostered by the angst and the tension that can happen," Jones said. "That's so often how they're accomplished. It's important, very important ... that both parties get tired."
 

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As usual I disagree with him. I hate the idea of an 18 game season. Especially if it means shortening the preseason to 2 games.

Maybe since he can't evaluate talent he wants to do away with those final two preseason games so nobody else can too.
 

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As usual I disagree with him. I hate the idea of an 18 game season. Especially if it means shortening the preseason to 2 games.

Maybe since he can't evaluate talent he wants to do away with those final two preseason games so nobody else can too.

lol
 

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Geeze, ruin a great sport even more Jerry. No need for 18 games or more teams. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE!
 

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As usual I disagree with him. I hate the idea of an 18 game season. Especially if it means shortening the preseason to 2 games.

Maybe since he can't evaluate talent he wants to do away with those final two preseason games so nobody else can too.



You really don't need 4 preseason games to evaluate talent. And as always your hatred of Jerry clouds any reasoning---not that you have any, because the fact is the other 31 owners are onboard with an 18 game season because it means more money.
 

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You really don't need 4 preseason games to evaluate talent. And as always your hatred of Jerry clouds any reasoning---not that you have any, because the fact is the other 31 owners are onboard with an 18 game season because it means more money.

Certainly you need the 4 games. Because you have two objectives in preseason. Get the team ready for the season and evaluate the bottom of the roster.

You can't do both adequately in two games. All you'd have is one game for the starters to play significant minutes and one game for the fringe guys. You can not make sound evaluations based off of one game. You need to see how they respond the next week, and the next week.

It's a terrible idea.
 

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As usual I disagree with him. I hate the idea of an 18 game season. Especially if it means shortening the preseason to 2 games.

Maybe since he can't evaluate talent he wants to do away with those final two preseason games so nobody else can too.

I disagree on the 18 game season too, but to be fair to Jones, I think its a given all 32 owners want it. Its a money thing for them.

I hate the idea because teams can barely keep players healthy for the 16 games now.
 

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I disagree on the 18 game season too, but to be fair to Jones, I think its a given all 32 owners want it. Its a money thing for them.

I hate the idea because teams can barely keep players healthy for the 16 games now.



Perhaps. I'm sure that was the belief when they went from 14 games to 16 games. But also my understand and what I read on this awhile back, was that the roster size would also be increased by 8. Going from the 45 active day roster to 53 active day roster, and from a 53 day roster to 61, making an emphasis on depth. Goodell has made it that every team have a divisional game so that teams would not mail it in at the end of the season, but with this 18 game season teams will probably mail it in.
 

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Why>? I know EXACTLY who is selling this most. It is the prick that is Jerry EGO Jones..

But, hell, it's just words so who cares... lol

Who gives a fuck if he is selling it the most. If the majority of the owners are not onboard, then it's a no-go. But there is unanimous consent and if Jerry wasn't "selling it", some other owner would be.

And I don't get the parting shot of "just words", especially being that you are the one that intially uttered them to no sense at all.
 
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I don't dislike this idea near as much as I do playing games over seas, or the new draft format.

When we do go to 18 games, which we will, I would hope they would expand rosters and allow the use of a teams entire roster, vice 45 of 53 currently.
 

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I don't think the owners really want to shorten the preseason as much as they want to extend the regular season.

I know they initially claimed that if they turn two preseason games into regular season games that no added compensation should have to be made to the players. Since there would still only be 20 games in total.

But 2 preseason games severely limits your talent evaluators from developing the bottom of your roster. I think it's a terrible idea supported by owners looking to make more profit and fans who don't understand the game.
 

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I don't think the owners really want to shorten the preseason as much as they want to extend the regular season.
I know they initially claimed that if they turn two preseason games into regular season games that no added compensation should have to be made to the players. Since there would still only be 20 games in total.

But 2 preseason games severely limits your talent evaluators from developing the bottom of your roster. I think it's a terrible idea supported by owners looking to make more profit and fans who don't understand the game.

lol no shit, Sherlock.
 

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I don't think the owners really want to shorten the preseason as much as they want to extend the regular season.

I know they initially claimed that if they turn two preseason games into regular season games that no added compensation should have to be made to the players. Since there would still only be 20 games in total.

But 2 preseason games severely limits your talent evaluators from developing the bottom of your roster. I think it's a terrible idea supported by owners looking to make more profit and fans who don't understand the game.

lol @ u thinking two extra preseason games provides coaches with oodles more evaluating material. Yeah if we take those two games away they might make bad decisions like dropping Danny Woodhead to keep mcKnight, that would be just awful.

Preseason performance plays such a little role in ultimate player evaluation that I wonder if you were making this post just to sound retarded.
 
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