Jerry Jones insists on expanded season

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

No. The regular season would start earlier. And they can always eliminate the bye week between the Championship games and the Super Bowl.

They are not going to do that/ Alot of money is made during those two weeks with hyping up the big game.

 

[sbk92]

They are not going to do that/ Alot of money is made during those two weeks with hyping up the big game.

They've done it in the past. And it's almost always a better, more competitive game.

 

[superpunk]

What occurs in practice should pale in comparison to what happens in live action in a game setting.

Reducing the games down to two basically gives teams one game to really see their backups with extended playing time. It's simply asinine to expect teams to make judgment calls on players off of one game.

It's a horrible idea. There isn't even a debate to it.

This just shows how little you know.

They are getting hundreds to thousands of reps in practice to show the coaches what they can do. In the preseason, with the enormous size of the rosters, they are getting maybe 30 to 50 plays per game to evaluate the player. A good preseason performance might give the edge to a player who is already in a close race with another player, but it is not going to be used as some sort of huge evaluating tool. The vast majority of the coaches evaluations are done outside of those preseason games, which again is why we see preseason heroes cut year after year.

The biggest thing cutting the preseason short would do IMO would be to make teams look alot more rusty in those first few games, at least the first couple years of it. Aside from that it is not that big a deal to lose those two games. It's more about team preparation than player evaluation.

 

[Midswat]

Cutting the pre-season to two games will have a minimal effect.

Most player decisions are made based on workouts & practices. Especially at the bottom of the roster, where such emphasis is placed on potential.

You can look to the combine as proof of that. Kids come out of college with 2-4 years of game film, yet their value is determined largely by how they perform at their Pro-Day or Combine.

SP makes a great point about how you see pre-season standouts not make rosters all the time.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

They wouldnt start the regular season in August. Tons of rich douchers are on vacation then. They wont start until after Labor Day.

I think a good compromise would be to do away w/ the pre-season all together. Let the teams scrimmage as much as they want. It may make for a few rusty opening games but we'll eat it up, its still football. Plus itll keep the players healthier. I dont know why the owners would bust the NFLPA balls on their idea to leave them alone from February to July. What do we care, if it really helps the helps the CBA get done. Go out and bang all the white chicks you can as long as you come back in decent shape.

 

[Cythim]

Goodell wants the 18 game season so it will happen. The fact that the Rooneys hate it will make him push for it that much more. No one tells Goodell what to do damn it, no one!

 

[DoomsdayDefense]

You would only really be losing one "meaningful" pre-season game, as the fourth one currently is more or less is a useless obligation. Teams have already made the lions share of their roster decisions at that point anyway. Lets also not forget that most teams scrimmage with another team for a few days during camp.

 

[DoomsdayDefense]

Goodell wants the 18 game season so it will happen. The fact that the Rooneys hate it will make him push for it that much more. No one tells Goodell what to do damn it, no one!

Jerry has a way of getting what he wants as well.

 

[sbk92]

You would only really be losing one "meaningful" pre-season game, as the fourth one currently is more or less is a useless obligation. Teams have already made the lions share of their roster decisions at that point anyway. Lets also not forget that most teams scrimmage with another team for a few days during camp.

1) The preseason finale is not a meaningless game. It's a very useful tool to get one last look at the bottom of your roster.

2) Most teams do not scrimmage teams in camp. Though I suspect they would if the preseason is cut to two games.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It's a very useful tool.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

You would only really be losing one "meaningful" pre-season game, as the fourth one currently is more or less is a useless obligation. Teams have already made the lions share of their roster decisions at that point anyway. Lets also not forget that most teams scrimmage with another team for a few days during camp.

Exactly. Thaty's why preseason is pretty much a glorifeid scrimmage.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Jerry has a way of getting what he wants as well.

Well he must not have wnated a Super Bowl as of late.

 

[Midswat]

It's a very useful tool.

... for teams to poop on.

 

[superpunk]

It's a very useful tool.

You're a useless tool.

 

[sbk92]

Exactly. Thaty's why preseason is pretty much a glorifeid scrimmage.

Most teams do not scrimmage other teams in camp.

So your "exactly" is wrong.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

You're a useless tool.

This isn't CZ. Over here you respect me, boy!

 

[Mr.Po]

I wish they would leave well enough alone but it seems that is a moot point as this is going to get done in some form or fashion. If it's expanded hoping they do meet in the middle...............17 regular season games and 3 preseason games. Expand rosters by 5-10 players and make it so the frigging bye week is favorable for all teams. No more byes in week 3 and expect players to bang heads and bodies for 15-16 wks straight and sometimes on a shortened week.

Goodell you assclown............................................leave the SuperBowl on American soil.

 

[dbair1967]

1)
2) Most teams do not scrimmage teams in camp. Though I suspect they would if the preseason is cut to two games.

We did when Jimmy was here, I think they even did it when Switzer was still coach.

I do agree that scrimmaging vs opponents would likely return if 1 or 2 preseason games go away.

 

[sbk92]

We did when Jimmy was here, I think they even did it when Switzer was still coach.

I do agree that scrimmaging vs opponents would likely return if 1 or 2 preseason games go away.

They would have to. Between the draft and UDFA you're talking about 20 or more players on your roster you're getting your first look at. Two preseason games with one devoted to the starters isn't enough to make a good evaluation of who to keep.

It's gonna happen. No question about it. I just wish they'd simply add two more regular season games and leave the preseason alone.

 

[Sheik]

There's no need for anymore games. The game is not broken. I wish this dick would quit trying to fix it.