GOP primary Chatter

Cythim · Mar 5, 2012

dbair1967 said:
lol

I find your lack of understanding quite hilarious as well lol

Cythim · Mar 5, 2012

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/technology/foxconn-to-raise-salaries-for-workers-by-up-to-25.html

Foxconn said that salaries for many workers would immediately jump by 16 to 25 percent, to about $400 a month, before overtime.

According to Bloomberg News, the auditor at the Fair Labor Association said recently that he had already found “

tons of issues

” at Foxconn plants. He did not detail the problems.

Bob Sacamano · Mar 6, 2012

Anarchy!

jiggyfly · Mar 6, 2012

dbair1967 said:
and your just like the typical dumbass liberal, I havent seen a single fact stated by you yet

WTF?

You haven't seen a simple fact?

What does that mean you ignored everything I posted in here or just refuse to read it?

dbair1967 · Mar 6, 2012

Bigboi said:
WTF?

You haven't seen a simple fact?

What does that mean you ignored everything I posted in here or just refuse to read it?

I read it. It wasnt worth the time though.

All you keep saying is "How is Bush better than Obama"

Why dont you tell us how Obama is better than anyone. Whats he done? Whats he accomplished? Whats better today than the day he came into office? The fucker is so stupid he cant even read off the teleprompter right half the time.

junk · Mar 6, 2012

dbair1967 said:
I read it. It wasnt worth the time though.

All you keep saying is "How is Bush better than Obama"

Why dont you tell us how Obama is better than anyone. Whats he done? Whats he accomplished? Whats better today than the day he came into office? The fucker is so stupid he cant even read off the teleprompter right half the time.

lol

I don't like either Bush or Obama. I actually find them eerily similar in many of the things they do.

However, I do find it odd that anyone would use public speaking as an indictment of Obama when comparing them to Bush. There were times I wondered if English was even Bush's first language. That guy was a horrible public speaker.

jiggyfly · Mar 7, 2012

dbair1967 said:
I read it. It wasnt worth the time though.

All you keep saying is "How is Bush better than Obama"

Why dont you tell us how Obama is better than anyone. Whats he done? Whats he accomplished? Whats better today than the day he came into office? The fucker is so stupid he cant even read off the teleprompter right half the time.

I will give you 2 things he did that Bush failed to do, kill Bin Laden and end the Iraq war.

And lets remember Bush said he was not concerned about Bin Laden

[video=youtube;jJmFkbBjbO0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmFkbBjbO0[/video]

So why again is Obama the worse than Bush? You seem to have a real problem supporting your premise.

dbair1967 · Mar 7, 2012

Bigboi said:
I will give you 2 things he did that Bush failed to do, kill Bin Laden and end the Iraq war.

And lets remember Bush said he was not concerned about Bin Laden

[video=youtube;jJmFkbBjbO0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJmFkbBjbO0[/video]

So why again is Obama the worse than Bush? You seem to have a real problem supporting your premise.

I already stated why. He's done alot of bad for this country IMO.

If he hadnt been elected, the economy would be FAR better off today, no doubt in my mind. I also doubt we'd still have $4 a gallon gasoline (and getting worse by the day)

Cythim · Mar 7, 2012

dbair1967 said:
I already stated why. He's done alot of bad for this country IMO.

If he hadnt been elected, the economy would be FAR better off today, no doubt in my mind. I also doubt we'd still have $4 a gallon gasoline (and getting worse by the day)

It is sad to see so many people who are blind to exactly why oil is at $4 a gallon. The simple answer is because that is the price you are begrudgingly willing to pay. There is not enough untapped oil in the U.S. to alter fuel prices significantly and it would take years before that oil hit the market. Domestic production has actually increased since Obama took office and our reliance on foreign oil has decreased, but you wouldn't know anything about that. You also wouldn't know anything about the strategic value of leaving our oil fields untapped until it is the last resort.

dbair1967 · Mar 8, 2012

Cythim said:
It is sad to see so many people who are blind to exactly why oil is at $4 a gallon. The simple answer is because that is the price you are begrudgingly willing to pay. There is not enough untapped oil in the U.S. to alter fuel prices significantly and it would take years before that oil hit the market. Domestic production has actually increased since Obama took office and our reliance on foreign oil has decreased, but you wouldn't know anything about that. You also wouldn't know anything about the strategic value of leaving our oil fields untapped until it is the last resort.

lol If only oil were $4 a gallon Cy. (Gas is $4 a gallon, oil is about 100 bucks or so, when it probably should be in the 60's or 70's)

Whats sad is you dont understand what drives the prices either.

The MINUTE that we get people running the country who will be dedicated to building our own oil supplies and then building enough refineries to get the gas out of it, the price of oil will drop dramatically. All they have to do is announce our intentions, and it will have a huge effect on the price of oil. Everyone knows we have more than enough here for ourselves and probably would have the ability to even export it out if we wanted.

To depend on nations that hate us to continue to supply us with the most critical strategic resource is painfully stupid. Its not something Obama alone is guily of, but he has certainly worsened the problem by catering to enviornmental whackos.

Cythim · Mar 8, 2012

dbair1967 said:
lol If only oil were $4 a gallon Cy. (Gas is $4 a gallon, oil is about 100 bucks or so, when it probably should be in the 60's or 70's)

Whats sad is you dont understand what drives the prices either.

The MINUTE that we get people running the country who will be dedicated to building our own oil supplies and then building enough refineries to get the gas out of it, the price of oil will drop dramatically. All they have to do is announce our intentions, and it will have a huge effect on the price of oil. Everyone knows we have more than enough here for ourselves and probably would have the ability to even export it out if we wanted.

To depend on nations that hate us to continue to supply us with the most critical strategic resource is painfully stupid. Its not something Obama alone is guily of, but he has certainly worsened the problem by catering to enviornmental whackos.

You know what I meant, dbair, and oil is actually $2.40 a gallon or over $100 a barrel. Even when it was in the $60s or $70s gas prices were in the $3.50 range. It has been shown repeatedly that the stock market is driving up oil prices, not typical supply and demand.

We don't have enough oil in this country to support ourselves. The U.S. consumes nearly 20 million barrels per day and only have enough reserves to sustain ourselves for 5 years at most. I know you'll spout some stupidist rhetoric about there being more oil than that if the EPA would only get out of the way but the cost to recover that oil make it economically dumb to do it right now.

As I said, gas prices are high because that is what you are willing to pay. The oil companies are not going to lower the price just because we start drilling more. Instead they will tell you American oil is worth more and you will be the idiot wondering why your plan didn't work out.

superpunk · Mar 8, 2012

dbair1967 said:
lol If only oil were $4 a gallon Cy. (Gas is $4 a gallon, oil is about 100 bucks or so, when it probably should be in the 60's or 70's)

Whats sad is you dont understand what drives the prices either.

The MINUTE that we get people running the country who will be dedicated to building our own oil supplies and then building enough refineries to get the gas out of it, the price of oil will drop dramatically. All they have to do is announce our intentions, and it will have a huge effect on the price of oil. Everyone knows we have more than enough here for ourselves and probably would have the ability to even export it out if we wanted.

To depend on nations that hate us to continue to supply us with the most critical strategic resource is painfully stupid. Its not something Obama alone is guily of, but he has certainly worsened the problem by catering to enviornmental whackos.

Keystone pipeline, eh?

dbair1967 · Mar 8, 2012

superpunk said:
Keystone pipeline, eh?

That would be a start, in addition to adding alot of much needed new jobs

dbair1967 · Mar 8, 2012

Cythim said:
You know what I meant, dbair, and oil is actually $2.40 a gallon or over $100 a barrel. Even when it was in the $60s or $70s gas prices were in the $3.50 range. It has been shown repeatedly that the stock market is driving up oil prices, not typical supply and demand.

We don't have enough oil in this country to support ourselves. The U.S. consumes nearly 20 million barrels per day and only have enough reserves to sustain ourselves for 5 years at most. I know you'll spout some stupidist rhetoric about there being more oil than that if the EPA would only get out of the way but the cost to recover that oil make it economically dumb to do it right now.

As I said, gas prices are high because that is what you are willing to pay. The oil companies are not going to lower the price just because we start drilling more. Instead they will tell you American oil is worth more and you will be the idiot wondering why your plan didn't work out.

The research shows that there is indeed enough untapped oil within the states and within our shorelines to pretty much cease any dependence on foreign oil. Price of oil and price of gas will definitely go down almost immediately once we decide to pursue it. The price of oil is where it is because we at the mercy of countries who hate us supplying the shit to us. Of course they are going to inflate the cost.

Drilling for our own oil also creates 1000's of new jobs. Building new refineries creats 1000's of new jobs. It also ensures of national security. We dont have to worry about bullshit that goes on half a world away.

superpunk · Mar 8, 2012

dbair1967 said:
That would be a start, in addition to adding alot of much needed new jobs

You know we don't actually get any oil from the keystone pipeline, right? From what I understand, it's for Canada to the middle-east oil. We're just acting as a middleman.

Did you also know we get more oil from Canada than the entire middle east combined?

It's the oil speculators who control the price of oil, has nothing to do with actual supply. It's like fucking diamonds that we run our cars on.

dbair1967 · Mar 8, 2012

superpunk said:
You know we don't actually get any oil from the keystone pipeline, right? From what I understand, it's for Canada to the middle-east oil. We're just acting as a middleman.

Did you also know we get more oil from Canada than the entire middle east combined?

It's the oil speculators who control the price of oil, has nothing to do with actual supply. It's like fucking diamonds that we run our cars on.

None of this changes the fact that if we drill for our own oil, we control our own destiny. And it does dramatically effect the price of oil.

superpunk · Mar 8, 2012

lol dbair...so naive, so uninformed.

dbair1967 · Mar 8, 2012

superpunk said:
lol dbair...so naive, so uninformed.

but so right on this topic

Bob Sacamano · Mar 8, 2012

dbair, we're a nation of traders. It's always going to be like this no matter what.

Cythim · Mar 8, 2012

dbair1967 said:
The research shows that there is indeed enough untapped oil within the states and within our shorelines to pretty much cease any dependence on foreign oil. Price of oil and price of gas will definitely go down almost immediately once we decide to pursue it. The price of oil is where it is because we at the mercy of countries who hate us supplying the shit to us. Of course they are going to inflate the cost.

Drilling for our own oil also creates 1000's of new jobs. Building new refineries creats 1000's of new jobs. It also ensures of national security. We dont have to worry about bullshit that goes on half a world away.

Yet BP has our recoverable oil at 30 billion barrels total, the oil you are talking about is not recoverable. Trying to get to the rest of it, however much is actually down there, will cost more than the current market rate for oil. You realize only about 15% of our oil imports and 9% of what is consumed comes from the Middle East, right? Half of the oil we use comes from ourselves, Canada, and Mexico. The guys that hate us overseas are not inflating the price, that is coming directly from stock market speculation.

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