Glazer: Rams, Redskins strike deal for No. 2 pick

Bob Sacamano · Mar 10, 2012

Good thing we re-signed Spencer, y'all.

superpunk · Mar 10, 2012

Could have gotten Matt Flynn for free, then given him Blackmon.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Mar 10, 2012

Cr122 said:
They just mortgaged the future with that trade. They gave up too many picks.

As far as RG3 though I think he has a stellar career in Washington. He'll do better than Luck will the roster the Colts will have now.

He's a perfect fit for Washington because he's a mobile QB. Peyton wouldn't of fit as good because of his mobility.

Will he? And if so, for how long? The Colts seem to be going about rebuilding that team the way they did with Manning. And Mnaning is more mobile than you give him credit for. Will he go scamper off on nearly every play? No. But I always said that if I had a choice between Manning or Brady, it would depend on the Oline. If the Oline was mediocre, I would take Manning.

Thing is, if the reports are correct about RGIII's propesnity for getting injured, then him being mobile may be the last thing you want.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Mar 10, 2012

superpunk said:
Could have gotten Matt Flynn for free, then given him Blackmon.

You beat me to it.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Mar 10, 2012

Cr122 said:
It's only 3 more wins than they had last year. It's very possible.

I'll leave it at that.

Mayeb maybe not. I don't know how you can so casually say, "Aw they'll get three more wins next year." Whne you haven;t really looked at the schedule. They barely got the 6 this year.

And this year, there is more pressure on Shanahan. This will be his 3rd year. If he has another losing season, does Snyder keep him. And if he , how does this impact RGIII's development? Because seriously, throughout his entire coaching caree, when has Shanahan drafted a QB that took him to the playoffs? Cutler didn't do it. He put up good numbers, and played in a weak division, but his time in Chicago was the first year he made the playoffs.

Midswat · Mar 10, 2012

I'ma lol if RGIII suffers a catastrophic injury between now and the draft.

I mean, not at his misfortune of course. But that of the Redskins.

jiggyfly · Mar 10, 2012

superpunk said:
Could have gotten Matt Flynn for free, then given him Blackmon.

There is a reason Matt Flynn was not drafted and he would not have been free by any stretch.

Both would have been huge gambles but at least RG3 has the talent to build around.

Everlastingxxx · Mar 10, 2012

dbair1967 said:
He's gotta be alot more than just "the real deal" to justify the kind of stupid trade they just did.

For the price they paid, he almost has to be a perennial probowler and multiple super bowl winner, otherwise this gets the Skins thrown into Mike Lynn territory.

Would you give up 2 first round picks for Romo? He hasn’t won multiple Super Bowls. It’s a high price, but i think the Skins were traumatized last season with Grossman. They realize they needed to improve that position ASAP before the draft.

dbair1967 · Mar 10, 2012

Everlastingxxx said:
Would you give up 2 first round picks for Romo? He hasn’t won multiple Super Bowls. It’s a high price, but i think the Skins were traumatized last season with Grossman. They realize they needed to improve that position ASAP before the draft.

Yes, he is a perennial probowler in the prime of his career that has proven in the NFL that he is an upper echelon player. The market was set for Romo with recent deals for guys like Cutler and Palmer.

The Skins gave up 3 1sts and a 2nd for a guy who is smart, talented and has a great attitude. But its still a huge risk. There's been alot of QB's picked very early who people thought were sure things, and they didnt pan out.

Sheik · Mar 10, 2012

That's a Steep price to pay for an unknown.

I hope he busts. I'm not sure you can justify the price unless he wins a super bowl for them. Even if he tosses 30 TDs a year and makes 10 pro bowls. You gotta win big at that price.

He'll have so much pressure on him, that may be too much for him.

UVAwahoos · Mar 10, 2012

People sayings its a dumb trade need to STFU.

Dallas did worse for Galloway and Roy Williams. Nobody gives up the picks we did for a fucking WR and then expects to win a Super Bowl.

If you're going to gamble, this is the one player and one position worth the risk. The guy has been clutch on the field and he has impressed at the combine. Plus, there's no guarantee the Skins hit on any of those 3 picks they gave up anyway.

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Mar 10, 2012

Bigboi said:
There is a reason Matt Flynn was not drafted and he would not have been free by any stretch.

Both would have been huge gambles but at least RG3 has the talent to build around.

And what reason is that?

LAZARUS_LOGAN · Mar 10, 2012

UVAwahoos said:
People sayings its a dumb trade need to STFU.

Dallas did worse for Galloway and Roy Williams. Nobody gives up the picks we did for a fucking WR and then expects to win a Super Bowl.

If you're going to gamble, this is the one player and one position worth the risk. The guy has been clutch on the field and he has impressed at the combine. Plus, there's no guarantee the Skins hit on any of those 3 picks they gave up anyway.

Exactly. We know a dumb trade when we see one because of that. You can bring up the Galloway and even the Roy Williams trade, but it has nothing to do with this at this moment.

Sheik · Mar 10, 2012

LAZARUS_LOGAN said:
And what reason is that?

Probably the same reason Tony Romo went undrafted.

superpunk · Mar 10, 2012

UVAwahoos said:
People sayings its a dumb trade need to STFU.

Dallas did worse for Galloway and Roy Williams. Nobody gives up the picks we did for a fucking WR and then expects to win a Super Bowl.

If you're going to gamble, this is the one player and one position worth the risk. The guy has been clutch on the field and he has impressed at the combine. Plus, there's no guarantee the Skins hit on any of those 3 picks they gave up anyway.

one player is never worth this risk. These deals have never in history worked out. The ones you cited are good examples.

superpunk · Mar 10, 2012

Bigboi said:
There is a reason Matt Flynn was not drafted and he would not have been free by any stretch.

Both would have been huge gambles but at least RG3 has the talent to build around.

Flynn has plenty of talent. Free as in they don't have to give up anything but money, and are therefore in a better position to build a unit around the player to encourage success.

VA Cowboy · Mar 10, 2012

What I don't get is why the Rams decided to make the deal now. Reportedly the Browns came back and were willing to offer three #1's also, but were told it was too late.
There's six more weeks til the draft and the bidding was still going on, so why were the Rams so quick to strike the deal with Washington and stop the process?

marionbarberthe4th · Mar 10, 2012

VA Cowboy said:
What I don't get is why the Rams decided to make the deal now. Reportedly the Browns came back and were willing to offer three #1's also, but were told it was too late.
There's six more weeks til the draft and the bidding was still going on, so why were the Rams so quick to strike the deal with Washington and stop the process?

So people listen when the say they got a better offer on the hopper and nows the time to make your Best offer. They keep it real

dbair1967 · Mar 10, 2012

UVAwahoos said:
People sayings its a dumb trade need to STFU.

Dallas did worse for Galloway and Roy Williams. Nobody gives up the picks we did for a fucking WR and then expects to win a Super Bowl.

If you're going to gamble, this is the one player and one position worth the risk. The guy has been clutch on the field and he has impressed at the combine. Plus, there's no guarantee the Skins hit on any of those 3 picks they gave up anyway.

Actually you need to STFU.

Trading 3 firsts and a 2nd for an unproven player is pretty stupid. At least with players like Joey Galloway (who other than Moss at the time of the trade, was the leagues most explosive player at a position we desperately needed help at) and Roy Williams they were proven commodities.

Griffin might be a very good player, however simply being a "very good player" would never make what they gave up to get him worth it. He HAS to be great, and the Redskins have to win big. Otherwise the trade was a flop.

dbair1967 · Mar 10, 2012

VA Cowboy said:
What I don't get is why the Rams decided to make the deal now. Reportedly the Browns came back and were willing to offer three #1's also, but were told it was too late.
There's six more weeks til the draft and the bidding was still going on, so why were the Rams so quick to strike the deal with Washington and stop the process?

I thought that was a little odd as well, although its possible that the closer they got to draft time the more likely they'd have been stuck with making a deal that HAD to be made, rather than the one they were happy with.

I guess its possible the Redskins said do it now or they were moving on to something else too.

Lastly, I didnt see where the Browns ever offered what the Skins did. In fact it was printed the Browns refused to give up both #1's this yr.

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