Day After Thoughts- Day Early

[dbair1967]

The Pot Pourri approach to building a team. Hire an unproven coach. Hire his staff. Nip and tuck along the way until it's obvious you'd made an error in hiring him in the first place, but stick it out and hope it works despite a clear lack of direction. Yeah, I guess the oil business really does rely on a good amount of luck, so I see can why the idea that it's a universal formula proving that 17 years of failure is really just a long streak of bad luck.

Yep. True.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Garrett's offense was modestly less shitty. Nobody called for a cluster fuck, 3 person play calling system. People were calling for a real OC who was actually given some autonomy to be an OC.

6 YEARS... WE'VE BEEN IN THIS SYSTEM. SIX FUCKING YEARS. And yet we're still no more proficient in it. We still struggle at the goal line to punch it in, and have to settle for FGs.

Dbair... you say that Garrett needs to take the playcalling away and Romo's "input"; but the fact is.. GARRETT AND THIS FUCKED UP SYSTEM HAS TO GO. It is widely known throughout the league that it's the most simplistic, unimaginative, and predictable offense in the league.

It's a system that requires Pro Bowler/All Pro players at the skill positions in order to net mediocre/minimal results.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

That would make sense, but it doesn't change the fact that MANY people who commented on this all thought the offense would be awesome with Romo taking control most of the time and Garrett not calling plays at all.

The only difference I can tell so far is more emphasis on dink and dunk balls and total disorganization on the majority of plays rather than just a few now.

Didn't you think this as well? Didn't we all think that Garrett would be better as a "walk-around" coach? Give the playcalling duties back to Garrett, and the results will be the same. Remember, why was Garrett forced to give up playcalling in the first place?

 

[Sheik]

I didn't read.

Too upset about muh cowboys.

But I'm sure it was great, David.

 

[dbair1967]

6 YEARS... WE'VE BEEN IN THIS SYSTEM. SIX FUCKING YEARS. And yet we're still no more proficient in it. We still struggle at the goal line to punch it in, and have to settle for FGs.

Dbair... you say that Garrett needs to take the playcalling away and Romo's "input"; but the fact is.. GARRETT AND THIS FUCKED UP SYSTEM HAS TO GO. It is widely known throughout the league that it's the most simplistic, unimaginative, and predictable offense in the league.

It's a system that requires Pro Bowler/All Pro players at the skill positions in order to net mediocre/minimal results.

They probably arnt going to get rid of him today and replace him with someone else's system. With that in mind they need to do something to lower the suckness level. And IMO now that means ditching Callahan's playcalling/influence and reigning in Romo.

The one thing I guess I would say in Callahan's defense is none of us really know how many of the playcalls are his, because it certainly appears Romo is making most of the calls. But most of the calls he is changing to suck beyond belief. He isn't Payton Manning and never will be.

 

[yimyammer]

I just hope that shit for brains Jones has enough sense to do the right thing after this season if we do end 8-8 or whatever again.

Whats the right thing to do?...........Fire Garrett and bring in another cast of characters who will be hamstrung unable to do their jobs and then swept out after another 3-4 years of similar results as the last coaches all while Jerry denies any responsibility or acknowledges he's the primary problem here?

That shit ain't ever gonna work, Jerry and his doofus family will never relinquish their toy to anyone else so they're(we're) fucked no matter what they do, may as well ride out Garrett for another 10 years in the hope that somehow continuity will stumble upon a miracle.

If there are any more Jimmy's or Parcells out there, Jerry & co will never hand over the keys again. Jerry has his stadium and a money printing machine and the damn fans keep supporting it no matter what so he's under no pressure to change.

As fans, we're absolutely fucked and have been for years. Changing the coach again wont do a damn thing except lure in the damn fans for another couple of years when they should be boycotting Jerry & his shitty GM.

The right thing to do is for Jerry to get the fuck out of the way forever (better yet, do us all a favor and commit Harakiri) but you and I know that ain't EVER gonna happen.

Cliff Notes: we're fucked no matter what

 

[dbair1967]

Didn't you think this as well? Didn't we all think that Garrett would be better as a "walk-around" coach? Give the playcalling duties back to Garrett, and the results will be the same. Remember, why was Garrett forced to give up playcalling in the first place?

Seemed like a good idea at the time, but we've also all known that Romo has had a lot of freedom for several years now. He almost always has gone to the line with two plays called and made the calls then too.

At some point you have to wonder if he deserves a larger part of the blame.

Honestly I've been one of the few who didn't complain much about playcalling, because my belief was the OL was so bad it didn't matter who called plays. The OL's run blocking hasn't seemed a lot better, but the pass protection has been pretty damn good, and the results have been the same or worse.

 

[Sheik]

This looks nothing like Garrett's offense.

This is a shitty west coast fag offense that doesn't suit the piece of shit QB or WRs.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

They probably arnt going to get rid of him today and replace him with someone else's system. With that in mind they need to do something to lower the suckness level. And IMO now that means ditching Callahan's playcalling/influence and reigning in Romo.

The one thing I guess I would say in Callahan's defense is none of us really know how many of the playcalls are his, because it certainly appears Romo is making most of the calls. But most of the calls he is changing to suck beyond belief. He isn't Payton Manning and never will be.

Well I know that. I'm just saying. Can't take another year of this.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Seemed like a good idea at the time, but we've also all known that Romo has had a lot of freedom for several years now. He almost always has gone to the line with two plays called and made the calls then too.

At some point you have to wonder if he deserves a larger part of the blame.

Honestly I've been one of the few who didn't complain much about playcalling, because my belief was the OL was so bad it didn't matter who called plays. The OL's run blocking hasn't seemed a lot better, but the pass protection has been pretty damn good, and the results have been the same or worse.

Bottomline is that we all believed that the status quo needed to be shaken up. Yes, I was one of those that was happy that Callahan would be calling the playcalls, actually, I was more happy that Garrett would not be. But sadly... there is no difference. I've never seen any other team with the collection of offensive talent like the Cowboys, and yet the coaching staff be so fucking clueless in utilizing them.

 

[dbair1967]

Now reading they think Hatcher might have tipped the ball on the 3rd down play where Claiborne was called for PI. If we had had a Timeout left we could have challenged that (tipping a ball on PI call is something that can be challenged).

Unfortunately we burned the 3 timeouts earlier in that drive, and had no chance to challenge.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Now reading they think Hatcher might have tipped the ball on the 3rd down play where Claiborne was called for PI. If we had had a Timeout left we could have challenged that (tipping a ball on PI call is something that can be challenged).

Unfortunately we burned the 3 timeouts earlier in that drive, and had no chance to challenge.

Dunbar's fumble should have been challenged.

 

[dbair1967]

Babe saying Romo looked horrible all week in practice.

 

[Omegasupreme]

This looks nothing like Garrett's offense.

This is a shitty west coast fag offense that doesn't suit the piece of shit QB or WRs.

Except this has been the Garrett issue for 6 years now. Red zone choking and just wasting opportunity. I remember Dallas beating Tampa Bay 13-12 a few years ago and Jerry telling a reporter that he will have to talk to Jason about getting the score up. The defense did its job but the offense is trying to correct its design flaws with the QB modifying the plays and the OC trying to add his own elements to remediate the flaws also.

This is going to get worse before better but where Bradshaw is wrong, the high percentage plays are far more wise in moving a team downfield than "taking chances".

 

[bbgun]

Did you know that Callahan is still calling Red's plays, not the ones he drew up in Oakland?

 

[Sheik]

I haven't seen this dink and dunk shit under Garrett.

Maybe Callahan is calling plays off of Garrett's 3rd and 2 play sheet.

 

[Jon88]

Babe saying Romo looked horrible all week in practice.

Did he say why?

 

[Hoofbite]

Did he say why?

Because bruised ribs is a bullshit story.

The shot he took was harder than the one in SF.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

Because bruised ribs is a bullshit story.

The shot he took was harder than the one in SF.

Agree with that. Mickey was speculating (and it actually makes sense) that Romo may have played worse in the second half as his nerve block wore off. Makes sense -- I've heard of that before.

And dbair, isn't it funny how when Garrett's offense sucks, it's because of the players... But when Callahan's sucks (of Garrett's that Callahan is calling), it's because of the coaching.

 

[Sheik]

TE, this offense doesn't look extremely different to you?