Because football is secondary

[5countem5]

The unabashed Garrett love makes you an obvious troll. But trying to attribute the three Super Bowls to Jerry just shows you honestly don't care at all if anyone takes you serious in the least.

Didn't he hire the guy who won them? Don't GMs get credit for that- or do those GMs you consider successful help coach or something? As far as Jimmy, it was well proven he couldn't win without a GM like Jerry, so it was the combination of the two that won not either single one.


Even though Jerry did win without Jimmy and luckily for us Jerry was here- not sure Jimmy would have had the balls to sign Deion and save that 3rd ring.

 

[Sheik]

The problem is you and guys like you, you use a metric for success that went out the window when the salary cap era came into place.

While we're "pointed in the right direction", how many teams have reached championship games after being in their divisions basement 2 or 3 years earlier?

If you want to live in the 70s and early 90s, feel free, but the league has changed, and it's a worst to first league more often than not.

 

[cmd34]

Through history, most teams that dominate an decade fall into this same sort of slump. It's not uncommon and many factors go into the result. if you'd like to ask me about specific decisions he has made- I can help you through the good ones and bad ones. Maybe even let you know why they were done.

In that time, the 49ers have sunk to the bottom and made it back to the Super Bowl. The Packers have been competitive pretty much the whole time.

The Seahawks have built a Superbowl contender with Mike Holmgren, started over, and built another one under Pete Carroll.

The Panthers did the same, first with John Fox, and now with Ron Rivera. Two total rebuilds in the last 20 years and somehow made it to the Super Bowl twice. The Seahawks have been there 3 times and won one.

I'm not seeing a good reason why the Cowboys have not sniffed a Super Bowl in 20 years.

 

[yimyammer]

not sure Jimmy would have had the balls to sign Deion and save that 3rd ring.

like any other good football decision jerri's ever been associated with, he got the idea from someone else.

Here's Jimmy recruiting Deion at Super Bowl 28, "Deion, don't count me out":

Jimmy Johnson recruiting Deion - YouTube

 

[cmd34]

Even though Jerry did win without Jimmy and luckily for us Jerry was here- not sure Jimmy would have had the balls to sign Deion and save that 3rd ring.

Watch the documentary. Deion was on the sideline and Jimmy told Deion don't sign with anyone without talking to me. He reiterated, "Don't count me out."

Sounds like a guy who wasn't about to quit or was fed up, and sounds like a guy who wanted to sign Deion before the 49erd did.

I would say "nice try" but it really wasn't.

Also, Jimmy was a very successful head coach in college, Jerry had nothing to do with any of that. Jimmy didn't repeat his success with the Dolphins. He was still well over .500 and had three wining seasons, and no losing seasons, aka significantly better than Garrett.

Jerry is .500 in 20 years. Garrett is .500 and has had one winning season. Jimmy powns Jerry and Garrett.

 

[Midswat]

Didn't he hire the guy who won them? Don't GMs get credit for that- or do those GMs you consider successful help coach or something? As far as Jimmy, it was well proven he couldn't win without a GM like Jerry, so it was the combination of the two that won not either single one.


Even though Jerry did win without Jimmy and luckily for us Jerry was here- not sure Jimmy would have had the balls to sign Deion and save that 3rd ring.

Hiring Jimmy was dumb luck based on them knowing each other from college.

Since then he's also hired Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Bill Parcells, Wade Wilson, and Jason Garrtt. Proving he has no ability to identify coaching talent.

 

[5countem5]

I don't look at the anyone finishing in second place as anything other than losing, each season there is one winner and rest are tied.

None off the teams you mentioned dominated their decade. A lot of times, comprehending what you read is very important.

If you talk the nineties- the dominant teams were Dallas (4th in wins, 1 st in SuperBowls) , Buffalo, KC and San Fran. None has done anything worth bragging about other than San Frans couple of good seasons.

That's pretty standard- for students of the game.

 

[5countem5]

Hiring Jimmy was dumb luck based on them knowing each other from college.

Since then he's also hired Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Bill Parcells, Wade Wilson, and Jason Garrtt. Proving he has no ability to identify coaching talent.

So I guess Polian's 1 Super Bowl win was just dumb luck too?

 

[Midswat]

So I guess Polian's 1 Super Bowl win was just dumb luck too?

Tell me how at all Polian is comparable to Jerry?

 

[yimyammer]

Hiring Jimmy was dumb luck based on them knowing each other from college.

Since then he's also hired Barry Switzer, Chan Gailey, Dave Campo, Bill Parcells, Wade Wilson, and Jason Garrtt. Proving he has no ability to identify coaching talent.

I'm not sure how much their relationship in college really came into play

Tex was set to hire Jimmy but couldn't bring himself to fire Landry which jerri had the balls to do and got clobbered for it, despite virtually everyone in Dallas calling for Landrys head preceding his firing.

The biggest thing I'd give jerri credit for is cutting a million dollar+ check to get Herschel to leave town so the trade with the Vikings would go through. I never understood why jerri didn't push to get more credit for something he actually did do vs stealing the limelight from others.

jerruh gonna jerruh

 

[Doomsday]

Tex was set to hire Jimmy but couldn't bring himself to fire Landry which jerri had the balls to do and got clobbered for it, despite virtually everyone in Dallas calling for Landrys head preceding his firing.

Yep- Jimmy was in the mix way before Jerry ever even got a sniff at the team. Job offer to Jimmy was, DC/Asst HC until Tom retired gracefully. Jimmy declined that offer and stayed in Miami. But Tex was after Jimmy, even during his Oklahoma State days. Wining and dining in the owner's box during games, all that.

Jerry hiring Jimmy was the ultimate no-brainer and I give him zero credit for that.

Signing checks? Yeah, that's all he's ever been good for.

 

[Iamtdg]

Through history, most teams that dominate an decade fall into this same sort of slump.

There are only 7 teams in the league that have a longer drought of getting to a conference championship than we do.

No, most teams do not go from winning 3 super bowls to 20+ years with only two playoff wins. That's a flatout lie that you are using to try and make your team seem okay. Well, guess what, no matter how many ways you try to defend it, this team and organization is far from okay.

 

[cmd34]

In the NFC, only the Cowboys, Lions, and Redskins have not been to the NFC Championship game since our last appearance.

Eagles, Giants, Vikings, Bears, Packers, Panthers, Falcons, Buccaneers, Saints, 49ers, Rams, Cardinals, and Seahawks have all been.

 

[onlyonenow]

In the NFC, only the Cowboys, Lions, and Redskins have not been to the NFC Championship game since our last appearance.

Eagles, Giants, Vikings, Bears, Packers, Panthers, Falcons, Buccaneers, Saints, 49ers, Rams, Cardinals, and Seahawks have all been.

that is so incredibly depressing.

 

[Midswat]

Remember in the early 90s when we used to laugh at the Bengals and Cardinals?

We're them now.

 

[Iamtdg]

Remember in the early 90s when we used to laugh at the Bengals and Cardinals?

We're them now.

Pretty much.

 

[Iamtdg]

In the NFC, only the Cowboys, Lions, and Redskins have not been to the NFC Championship game since our last appearance.

Eagles, Giants, Vikings, Bears, Packers, Panthers, Falcons, Buccaneers, Saints, 49ers, Rams, Cardinals, and Seahawks have all been.

The Jags, Raiders, and Rams have all made it to a conference championship since we have. Let that sink in for a second.

 

[5countem5]

Yep- Jimmy was in the mix way before Jerry ever even got a sniff at the team. Job offer to Jimmy was, DC/Asst HC until Tom retired gracefully. Jimmy declined that offer and stayed in Miami. But Tex was after Jimmy, even during his Oklahoma State days. Wining and dining in the owner's box during games, all that.

Jerry hiring Jimmy was the ultimate no-brainer and I give him zero credit for that.

Signing checks? Yeah, that's all he's ever been good for.

 

[5countem5]

Tell me how at all Polian is comparable to Jerry?

Hall of Fame GMs

 

[cmd34]

Remember in the early 90s when we used to laugh at the Bengals and Cardinals?

We're them now.

We aspire to be them.

The fact that Mike Brown owner/GM figured it out before Jerry Jones is sad.