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5 Wonders: Spencer's future, rookie wall
November, 22, 2011
By Todd Archer

It’s a short week for the Cowboys but it’s never too short to get into this week’s 5 Wonders. Here we go:

** I wonder if the Cowboys should be forced to play a road game the Sunday before every Thanksgiving Day game. That would seem to lessen an advantage for the visiting team that has an even shorter week because it has to travel on Wednesday to get to town. The last time the Cowboys played on the road before Thanksgiving came in 2004 when they lost to Baltimore, 30-10, and followed that up with a 21-7 against Chicago at Texas Stadium. While there is a segment of folks across the league that would like to see the holiday game rotate to other teams, the traditionalist in me says to keep things the same. But this suggestion would at least make some of the Cowboys’ preparation more difficult. (Memo to Archer, do some homework asshole. Detroit and Balitmore both played at home this past week, and host games Thursday. Who do so many in the dipshit media act like ONLY Dallas has ever played at home the week before or week after Thanksgiving. This year we play on the road before AND after the Turkey Day game, the only 1 of the 3 Thanksgiving Day home teams to do that)

** The Cowboys will have an interesting decision to make in the offseason regarding outside linebacker Anthony Spencer. He is set to be an unrestricted free agent. So far he has had a solid season with four sacks, 15 quarterback pressures, two forced fumbles and 41 tackles, as credited by the coaches. But has he done enough to generate a long-term contract with eight figures in guaranteed money? If you’re not sure, then you don’t do it. But I wouldn’t give up on Spencer either for two reasons. The first is they do not have a replacement in reserve, even if people want to see more of Victor Butler. I think Butler is a situational pass rusher and not an every down player. My suggestion? Look to use the franchise tag on Spencer. The rough guess from people across the league is that the outside linebacker tag will be about $9 million in 2012. If a team wants to sign Spencer anyway, then you get a first-round pick in return. If that doesn’t happen, then the Cowboys have essentially bought themselves another year at the spot with a solid player. Plus, they could turn their early attention in the draft to another spot of need. (Franchise tag for this guy? Seriously?)

** Danny McCray does not generate a lot of buzz because special teamers rarely do, but I wonder if the opposition if starting to realize just how good he is at covering kickoffs and punts. McCray was on pace to annihilate the team’s mark for special teams’ tackle in a year to start the season. He has one tackle in his last four games and 14 for the season. Teams are game planning for him, by paying him a lot of respect on the outside when covering punts. That’s a huge sign of respect for the second-year safety. I can’t see him making the Pro Bowl for the NFC – Chicago’s Corey Graham would get my vote – but clearly the coaches know who the Cowboys’ best special teamer is.

** At this point of the season you have to wonder about rookies hitting a wall. It happens all the time because they just don’t play this many games in a year at the collegiate level. I wonder if the coaches pay a little more attention to Tyron Smith to make sure he’s holding up OK after playing 14 games (counting preseason). Dan Bailey said he is feeling fine but the veteran special teamers have pointed out things to keep him fresh for the long haul. One thing I don’t wonder about is DeMarco Murray hitting the rookie wall yet. He was so limited in training camp because of a hamstring injury and was not used much in the early part of the year. He has had at least 20 carries in four of the last five games and he seems built to handle the pounding a running back has to take.

** I wonder what happens to the Cowboys on their two-minute defense. It’s one thing for Tom Brady to complete eight of nine passes for 78 yards for New England and win the game at the end with an 8-yard throw to Daniel Hernandez. It’s another thing for Rex Grossman to tear up the defense in a two-minute drill, like he did for Washington. Grossman missed on only two throws on the drive that send Sunday’s game into overtime. He bit of chunks of yardage with completions of 20, 27 and 15 yards and had a beautiful throw to Donte Stallworth to tie it up. With games so close two-minute defenses have to excel and it’s an area that has to be a concern for the Cowboys.
 

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Answer to question#2 is let him walk. I would franchise McBriar long before I would even consider Spencer.
 
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He makes a good point on Spencer, dbair.

I'd rather franchise him than sign him to a long-term contract. If the team doesn't think his replacement is in house, then do it.

Otherwise, we have to dedicate a high draft pick for his replacement. And quite frankly, I'd rather go in another direction with our first rounder.
 

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Spencer does virtually nothing anyway. How bad can his replacement be?
 

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with four sacks, 15 quarterback pressures, two forced fumbles and 41 tackles,

Hardly "nothing."

Most games has been absolutely nothing. The "breakout" game that was predicted fro last week you almost wouldnt have known he was even on the field by the way he played.
 

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He makes a good point on Spencer, dbair.

I'd rather franchise him than sign him to a long-term contract. If the team doesn't think his replacement is in house, then do it.

Otherwise, we have to dedicate a high draft pick for his replacement. And quite frankly, I'd rather go in another direction with our first rounder.

I dont agree. Spencer is not a franchise calibar player. You franchise tag quality players either 1) Because you dont want them to leave or 2) You think you can get something for him via trade.

Spencer doesnt have much, if any trade value based on his play the last year and a half +. And he definitely isnt worth tying up 10 million in cap space for either.

I'd let him test the market. If someone wants to overpay to take him, fine. We can replace his fairly menial production with another veteran or a draft pick. My guess is nobody is really going to "want" him, and we'd be in a position where he'd probably resign here anyway to a minimal contract if we wanted to keep him.
 

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I dont agree. Spencer is not a franchise calibar player. You franchise tag quality players either 1) Because you dont want them to leave or 2) You think you can get something for him via trade.

Spencer doesnt have much, if any trade value based on his play the last year and a half +. And he definitely isnt worth tying up 10 million in cap space for either.

I'd let him test the market. If someone wants to overpay to take him, fine. We can replace his fairly menial production with another veteran or a draft pick. My guess is nobody is really going to "want" him, and we'd be in a position where he'd probably resign here anyway to a minimal contract if we wanted to keep him.

So why has Butler not eaten into Spencer's playing time if he is so easily replaceable?

We know Ryan has no problem replacing former starters.

You are a fool if you think nobody is going to want him he would be a instant upgrade and starter for Cleveland, Miami and San Diego right off the top of my head.
 

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So why has Butler not eaten into Spencer's playing time if he is so easily replaceable?

We know Ryan has no problem replacing former starters.

You are a fool if you think nobody is going to want him he would be a instant upgrade and starter for Cleveland, Miami and San Diego right off the top of my head.

Might be an upgrade in talent deprived Cleveland, but I dont see him starting for either San Diego or Miami as you mention. Both those teams have capable pairs of OLB's

Its not that I think "nobody" will want him, but I do think "nobody" is going to sign him to a big time contract. His production on the field clearly doesnt warrant it, and he has far too many games where you almost cant even tell he played, let alone made any difference in.
 

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Might be an upgrade in talent deprived Cleveland, but I dont see him starting for either San Diego or Miami as you mention. Both those teams have capable pairs of OLB's

Its not that I think "nobody" will want him, but I do think "nobody" is going to sign him to a big time contract. His production on the field clearly doesnt warrant it, and he has far too many games where you almost cant even tell he played, let alone made any difference in.

He's been a real disappointment. I can't believe he admitted to taking plays off. Idiot.
 

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I think Spencer will have more success as a 4-3 DE. I think someone is going to pay him more than we will want to pay him.

Although 3-4 OLB's have to be able to stand up, drop back and cover, I really hope Spencer's replacement is a better pure pass rusher (than Spencer is). I'd really love to see what happens when DeMarcus Ware gets a complimentary threat coming from the other side.
 
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Osi YouManYou'reA is going to be a Cowboy next year.

He's Spencers replacement.

No, I'm not guessing.
 

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Osi YouManYou'reA is going to be a Cowboy next year.

He's Spencers replacement.

No, I'm not guessing.

I wouldn't mind that at all. He and Ware are really close.

Only thing is the Giants would have to cut him. He is under contract for another year and there is no way they trade him to us.
 

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We should try to upgrade from Anthony Spencer or at the very least find someone to replace him at a cheaper cost, if he asks for too much. I'll leave it to you guys to decide how much is too much for Anthony Spencer's services.
 

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We should try to upgrade from Anthony Spencer or at the very least find someone to replace him at a cheaper cost, if he asks for too much. I'll leave it to you guys to decide how much is too much for Anthony Spencer's services.

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