2025 NFL Draft

[Aggiepride]

IMHO, if the NFL wants a minor league system then they should create a minor league. It could be the USFL. High school kids who think they have a legit shot can go play in that league and if it doesn't work out, well, college is still there. They could always take online courses during the summer or after their career is over if they really feel they need the piece of paper.

I don't like what is happening to college sports. I attended Texas A&M. You should see all the new buildings that were put up just since the time I graduated in 2005. It's amazing!

How does a new chemistry building make the teaching of chemistry better? The old chemistry building had all the same things, it's just that the building was older. If the old building needed special equipment then they could have put it in.

When I was there there was only one rec center and it was new. Now they apparently have multiple rec centers.

None of this improves education. It's just spending money to recruit, believe it or not, FOREIGN students. And I know this because I asked. It's partly what gives a school its reputation.

I say take sports out of college except for sports like volleyball, tennis, archery etc and focus on education.

 

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[Aggiepride]

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No clue what this is about. I listened to the clip and Shannon and Ocho seem reasonable to me. If people choose to live their lives on social media then they are inviting the world to have an opinion and comment.

Maybe I didn't understand it.

 

[dbair1967]

 

[Aggiepride]

Dbair, worth a flier with a 4th round pick or not? Oh wait, we don't have a 4th round pick. We do have 3 5ths in a row. Maybe we will get a 4th with a comp pick. Not sure for who. Tony Pollard maybe?

 

[dbair1967]

Dbair, worth a flier with a 4th round pick or not? Oh wait, we don't have a 4th round pick. We do have 3 5ths in a row. Maybe we will get a 4th with a comp pick. Not sure for who. Tony Pollard maybe?

Beck was great last yr, he was really up and down this yr and made a lot of bad reads. Definitely has excellent size, a strong arm and at times throws the ball with great accuracy (esp last yr). He's also a pretty fair athlete.

But the injury is a big concern, he may not be the same type of passer after he recovers and as noted, his decision making this year was not as good. Not entirely his fault as the receiver/TE group was not as good (and Georgia either led the nation or was right at the top in drops this year) but he not play as well.

Feel bad for him in a way, he came back despite probably being a lock for late 1st/early 2nd rd this past April and he did it for the right reasons. Then didnt have as good a yr and now has a major injury. It also didnt help his cause when Gunnar Stockton came in and led Georgia to the upset over Texas in the SEC Champ game.

 

[Aggiepride]

Beck was great last yr, he was really up and down this yr and made a lot of bad reads. Definitely has excellent size, a strong arm and at times throws the ball with great accuracy (esp last yr). He's also a pretty fair athlete.

But the injury is a big concern, he may not be the same type of passer after he recovers and as noted, his decision making this year was not as good. Not entirely his fault as the receiver/TE group was not as good (and Georgia either led the nation or was right at the top in drops this year) but he not play as well.

Feel bad for him in a way, he came back despite probably being a lock for late 1st/early 2nd rd this past April and he did it for the right reasons. Then didnt have as good a yr and now has a major injury. It also didnt help his cause when Gunnar Stockton came in and led Georgia to the upset over Texas in the SEC Champ game.

Well, I guess with the injury, Beck is definitely out of the top 100. Could still be worth a 5th (we have 3) depending on what the MDs say. He could be on IR for a year, but it wouldn't cost a real roster spot. Heck, this is the same GM that gave up a 2nd for Jaylon Smith.

Dillon Gabriel maybe in R5?

As far as Stockton's performance, how much of that was the overall team rallying for Beck?

 

[dbair1967]

Well, I guess with the injury, Beck is definitely out of the top 100. Could still be worth a 5th (we have 3) depending on what the MDs say. He could be on IR for a year, but it wouldn't cost a real roster spot. Heck, this is the same GM that gave up a 2nd for Jaylon Smith.

Dillon Gabriel maybe in R5?

As far as Stockton's performance, how much of that was the overall team rallying for Beck?

Gabriel is not a NFL QB at 5'10 or 5'11 and barely 190lbs

He definitely gave them some spark in the Texas game, but starting and knowing you have immense pressure in a CFP game v Notre Dame will be something else I'm sure.

 

[Aggiepride]

Gabriel is not a NFL QB at 5'10 or 5'11 and barely 190lbs

He definitely gave them some spark in the Texas game, but starting and knowing you have immense pressure in a CFP game v Notre Dame will be something else I'm sure.

He can add weight. He could easily get to 210. He is officially listed at 200. But let's accept 190. Adding 20 pounds while in an NFL training program isn't impossible. Remember, we aren't drafting a starter. We hope that he might be. But what we are drafting in that round is a possible backup.

In round 5 you're usually going to get someone who is too short, doesn't have enough arm strength, doesn't have this or that. There just aren't a lot of good choices-- especially with no 4th.

 

[dbair1967]

He can add weight. He could easily get to 210. He is officially listed at 200. But let's accept 190. Adding 20 pounds while in an NFL training program isn't impossible. Remember, we aren't drafting a starter. We hope that he might be. But what we are drafting in that round is a possible backup.

In round 5 you're usually going to get someone who is too short, doesn't have enough arm strength, doesn't have this or that. There just aren't a lot of good choices-- especially with no 4th.

Sure he can probably add weight but I doubt he can add height, unless he hasn't gone through puberty yet.

I'm not drafting a midget to play QB.

 

[dbair1967]

Kiper updated Big Board, 12/16/24

Underclassmen are noted with an asterisk.

Big Board

1. Travis Hunter WR/CB Colorado*
2. Abdul Carter OLB Penn State
3. Shedeur Sanders QB Colorado
4. Mason Graham DT Michigan*
5. Will Johnson CB Michigan*

6. Ashton Jeanty RB Boise State*
7. Mykel Williams OLB Georgia*
8. Cam Ward QB Miami
9. Malaki Starks S Georgia
10. Kelvin Banks Jr. T Texas*

11. Tetairoa McMillan WR Arizona*
12. Will Campbell T LSU*
13. Jalon Walker LB Georgia*
14. Derrick Harmon DT Oregon*
15. Walter Nolen DT Mississippi*

16. Shavon Revel Jr. CB East Carolina
17. Josh Simmons T Ohio State
18. Tyler Warren TE Penn State
19. Kenneth Grant DT Michigan*
20. Jihaad Campbell LB Alabama*

21. Colston Loveland TE Michigan*
22. Nic Scourton DE Texas A&M*
23. Luther Burden III WR Missouri*
24. James Pearce Jr. OLB Tennessee*
25. Aireontae Ersery T Minnesota

 

[dbair1967]

Kiper updated position rankings 12.16.24

Position Rankings

Quarterbacks
1. Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
2. Cam Ward, Miami (Fla.)
3. Jalen Milroe, Alabama
4. Carson Beck, Georgia
5. Quinn Ewers, Texas
6. Kurtis Rourke, Indiana
7. Jaxson Dart, Ole Miss
8. Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
9. Kyle McCord, Syracuse
10. Tyler Shough, Louisville

Running backs
1. Ashton Jeanty, Boise State
2. Omarion Hampton, North Carolina
3. Kaleb Johnson, Iowa
4. Nicholas Singleton, Penn State
5. Jonah Coleman, Washington
6. RJ Harvey, UCF
7. Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State
8. TreVeyon Henderson, Ohio State
9. Jordan James, Oregon
10. Dylan Sampson, Tennessee

Fullbacks/H-backs
1. Elijah Arroyo, Miami (Fla.)
2. Harold Fannin Jr., Bowling Green
3. Eli Stowers, Vanderbilt
4. Oronde Gadsden II, Syracuse
5. Bryson Nesbit, North Carolina
6. Jared Casey, Kansas
7. Jake Briningstool, Clemson
8. Brant Kuithe, Utah
9. Tyler Neville, Virginia
10. Ben Yurosek, Georgia

Wide receivers
1. Travis Hunter, Colorado
2. Tetairoa McMillan, Arizona
3. Luther Burden III, Missouri
4. Emeka Egbuka, Ohio State
5. Jalen Royals, Utah State
6. Isaiah Bond, Texas
7. Savion Williams, TCU
8. Elic Ayomanor, Stanford
9. Tre Harris, Ole Miss
10. Jaylin Noel, Iowa State

Tight ends
1. Tyler Warren, Penn State
2. Colston Loveland, Michigan
3. Mason Taylor, LSU
4. Terrance Ferguson, Oregon
5. Mitchell Evans, Notre Dame
6. Oscar Delp, Georgia
7. Gunnar Helm, Texas
8. Jackson Hawes, Georgia Tech
9. Joe Royer, Cincinnati
10. Luke Lachey, Iowa

Offensive tackles
1. Kelvin Banks Jr., Texas
2. Will Campbell, LSU
3. Josh Simmons, Ohio State
4. Aireontae Ersery, Minnesota
5. Marcus Mbow, Purdue
6. Cameron Williams, Texas
7. Josh Conerly Jr., Oregon
8. Anthony Belton, NC State
9. Wyatt Milum, West Virginia
10. Emery Jones Jr., LSU

Guards
1. Donovan Jackson, Ohio State
2. Jonah Savaiinaea, Arizona
3. Tyler Booker, Alabama
4. Dylan Fairchild, Georgia
5. Tate Ratledge, Georgia
6. Armand Membou, Missouri
7. Connor Colby, Iowa
8. Jaeden Roberts, Alabama
9. Joshua Gray, Oregon State
10. Grey Zabel, North Dakota State

Centers
1. Jared Wilson, Georgia
2. Drew Kendall, Boston College
3. Jonah Monheim, USC
4. Parker Brailsford, Alabama
5. Jake Slaughter, Florida
6. Connor Tollison, Missouri
7. Seth McLaughlin, Ohio State
8. Logan Jones, Iowa
9. Jake Majors, Texas
10. Bryce Foster, Kansas

 

[dbair1967]

Defensive ends
1. Nic Scourton, Texas A&M
2. Shemar Stewart, Texas A&M
3. JT Tuimoloau, Ohio State
4. Jordan Burch, Oregon
5. Landon Jackson, Arkansas
6. Ashton Gillotte, Louisville
7. Jack Sawyer, Ohio State
8. Jared Ivey, Ole Miss
9. Mikail Kamara, Indiana
10. Ahmed Hassanein, Boise State

Defensive tackles
1. Mason Graham, Michigan
2. Derrick Harmon, Oregon
3. Walter Nolen, Ole Miss
4. Kenneth Grant, Michigan
5. Ty Robinson, Nebraska
6. Alfred Collins, Texas
7. T.J. Sanders, South Carolina
8. Darrell Jackson Jr., Florida State
9. Omarr Norman-Lott, Tennessee
10. Tyleik Williams, Ohio State

Outside linebackers
1. Abdul Carter, Penn State
2. Mykel Williams, Georgia
3. James Pearce Jr., Tennessee
4. Donovan Ezeiruaku, Boston College
5. Mike Green, Marshall
6. Kyle Kennard, South Carolina
7. Princely Umanmielen, Ole Miss
8. Bradyn Swinson, LSU
9. Antwaun Powell-Ryland, Virginia Tech
10. Josaiah Stewart, Michigan

Off-ball linebackers
1. Jalon Walker, Georgia
2. Jihaad Campbell, Alabama
3. Barrett Carter, Clemson
4. Danny Stutsman, Oklahoma
5. Chris Paul Jr., Ole Miss
6. Harold Perkins Jr., LSU
7. Deontae Lawson, Alabama
8. Lander Barton, Utah
9. Jay Higgins, Iowa
10. Cody Simon, Ohio State

Cornerbacks
-- Travis Hunter, Colorado*
1. Will Johnson, Michigan
2. Shavon Revel Jr., East Carolina
3. Benjamin Morrison, Notre Dame
4. Trey Amos, Ole Miss
5. Jahdae Barron, Texas
6. Sebastian Castro, Iowa
7. Maxwell Hairston, Kentucky
8. Nohl Williams, California
9. Darien Porter, Iowa State
10. Quincy Riley, Louisville

* Hunter is ranked positionally as a wide receiver, but he would slot in as the No. 1 cornerback.

Safeties
1. Malaki Starks, Georgia
2. Nick Emmanwori, South Carolina
3. Kevin Winston Jr., Penn State
4. Xavier Watts, Notre Dame
5. Andrew Mukuba, Texas
6. Jonas Sanker, Virginia
7. Billy Bowman Jr., Oklahoma
8. Lathan Ransom, Ohio State
9. Jaylen Reed, Penn State
10. Rod Moore, Michigan

 

[Doomsday]

Sure he can probably add weight but I doubt he can add height, unless he hasn't gone through puberty yet.

I'm not drafting a midget to play QB.

Patrick Mahomes is staring at you.

 

[dbair1967]

Patrick Mahomes is staring at you.

Patrick Mahomes is 6'2, 225 with a cannon arm.

 

[Aggiepride]

Sure he can probably add weight but I doubt he can add height, unless he hasn't gone through puberty yet.

I'm not drafting a midget to play QB.

I'm not saying he's Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, or Drew Brees. But I think each of those are the same height. He plays from the pocket, reads quickly, so he can add weight and not worry too much about losing mobility.

I'm not saying Stetson Bennett is great, but he is still in the NFL and he is listed as the same size, isn't he? And I think Bennett has a naturally smaller frame.

Anyway, I'll have a better opinion later on.