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Can I also say that I hate that we played the Packers earlier in the year?

I trust their coaching better than ours. Them knowing how we plan to defend them and them and Rodgers making adjustments is troubling.
 

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Havent verified it, but MMQB blurb says rookie QB's are 9-12 in their 1st playoff starts, and only two (Flacco and Sanchez) won more than one game in the playoffs as a rookie.
 

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This is from CBSsports.com, it paints an even bleaker picture for rookies than the 9-12 W/L record MMQB referenced:

Record of rookie QBs in playoffs since AFL-NFL merger. The * means a win came vs another rookie QB

Connor Cook Raiders 2016 0-1
Andrew Luck Colts 2012 0-1
Robert Griffin III Redskins 2012 0-1
Russell Wilson Seahawks 2012 1-1*
T.J. Yates Texans 2011 1-1*
Andy Dalton Bengals 2011 0-1
Mark Sanchez Jets 2009 2-1
Matt Ryan Falcons 2008 0-1
Joe Flacco Ravens 2008 2-1
Ben Roethlisberger Steelers 2004 1-1
Shaun King Buccaneers 1999 1-1
Todd Marinovich Raiders 1991 0-1
Jim Everett Rams 1986 0-1
Bernie Kosar Browns 1985 0-1
Dan Marino Dolphins 1983 0-1
COMBINED RECORD 8-15
 

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Only 4 rookie QB's have guided teams to a conference championship, none have won and went to the Super Bowl. The 4 are Shaun King, Rapistburger, Flacco and Sanchez.

Rapistburger was the only one prior to Prescott to lead his team to HFA. (They got smoked by Patriots in 2004)
 

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2nd Packer player to come down with drug charges in recent weeks. Shields wont be playing anyway, but Allison will be seeing lots of time due to Nelson injury.

NFL League Office: [crickets]


Packers CB Sam Shields faces two drug-related charges








11:09 AM ET

Rob Demovsky
ESPN Staff Writer

GREEN BAY, Wis. - Green Bay Packers cornerback Sam Shields was charged with possession of marijuana and possession of drug paraphernalia - both misdemeanors - nearly three months after a police investigation, according to Wisconsin Circuit Court records.

Charges were filed on Thursday for an incident that occurred on Oct. 19, according to the court records.

According to the police report, first obtained WBAY-TV, the Brown County Drug Task Force sent investigators to Shields' Green Bay-area home "on suspicions of drug-related activity ... based on a parcel sent through the U.S. Mail."

The criminal complaint says Shields opened the door to his residence holding "a blunt" and investigators, who were given permission to search the home by Shields, said they also found "several jars of green plant material that was consistent in appearance with marijuana."

Sam Shields, who has not played since the Packers' regular-season opener, was charged with possession of marijuana and possession of drug paraphernalia in Wisconsin on Thursday. David Rosenblum/Icon Sportswire

According to WBAY, Shields attorneys appeared in court on his behalf on Friday and entered a plea of not guilty.

"The Packers are aware of the matter involving Sam Shields," the team said in a statement to ESPN. "We will refrain from making any further comment as it is an ongoing legal matter."

Packers coach Mike McCarthy said he was made aware of the incident at the time.

Shields has not played since the regular-season opener, when he sustained a concussion. He was placed on injured reserve on Oct. 18.

Earlier this week, marijuana charges were revealed against wide receiver Geronimo Allison stemming from an incident in September.
 

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Can I also say that I hate that we played the Packers earlier in the year?

I trust their coaching better than ours. Them knowing how we plan to defend them and them and Rodgers making adjustments is troubling.

How so?

I just watched the game and had forgotten it was 10-6 with a minute to go in the first half. Dallas started at their own 3 yard line and scored a TD in 32 seconds. (Lucky had a big game too)

4 turnovers by GB in that game, Rogers had all day in the pocket and was missing wide open guys and when he wasn't, they were dropping his passes.

You could have made a drinking game out of how many times the announcers said: “Rogers has all day to throw”

Dallas was missing Scandrick and Dez and still won handily on their turf.

I give the edge to GB in coaching and QB but still think the Cowboys should win this game, everything else is on their favor.

Dallas cant ruin drives with penalties and score 3's instead of 7.
 

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Havent verified it, but MMQB blurb says rookie QB's are 9-12 in their 1st playoff starts, and only two (Flacco and Sanchez) won more than one game in the playoffs as a rookie.

here's the article link:

On Sunday, Dak Prescott will begin his quest to go where no starting rookie quarterback has gone before: to the Super Bowl. Prescott will become the 22nd rookie QB in NFL history to start a postseason game when his Cowboys take on the Packers. Of the 21 who have gone before him, only two have won more than one playoff game (Joe Flacco and Mark Sanchez).
 

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What is the point of the rookie-QB playoff records? Sanchez got to a conference championship game as a rookie, and we know he's terrible. It's mostly about the team around him.
 

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exactly, has a rookie QB ever had a better situation than Dak does this year? Perhaps Rapes-a-burger, but I can't think of any others
 
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What is the point of the rookie-QB playoff records? Sanchez got to a conference championship game as a rookie, and we know he's terrible. It's mostly about the team around him.
Exactly. As Dbair said, Roethlisberger is the only one to guide his team to HFA in the reg season. That tells me that the teams with rookie QBs were already underdogs. 9-12 as underdogs? That seems pretty good to me.
 

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exactly, has a rookie QB ever had a better situation than Dak does this year? Perhaps Rapes-a-burger, but I can't think of any others

Dan Marino became the starter on a team that went to the Super Bowl the previous year.

Shaun King took over later in the season for a Bucs team that had a dominant defense and a decent running game.
 

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Seattle and Atlanta.

Who you want to come to Dallas next weekend?

I don't care, just happy if we get to that game for the first time in 21 yrs.

Seattle's offense is pretty limited and they are missing Earl Thomas in a big way, I guess we might be better off facing them rather than a Falcons team that can easily score 30-35 pts and is equally effective running and passing. The Seattle OL is also bad.
 

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green bay packers assistant coach darren perry got bopped for drunk driving last month and we're hearing about it today.

so let's recap green bay's fun week:

1/13/16 - darren perry, assistant coach, drunk driving charges
1/12/16 - sam shields, cornerback on injured reserve, possession of marijuana charges
1/10/16 - geronimo allison, slot wide receiver, drug charges-marijuana

meanwhile in dallas...

i think each day this week they've been releasing these finish the fight videos and getting full participation in practice.
 

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In light of this news, John Mara, I mean the NFL, has suspended Randy Gregory an additional 20 games.
 
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