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So you're not on board with best available player?
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So you're not on board with best available player?
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It's possible. If he has a great Senior Bowl and shows out at the Combine he could definitely go as high as 3.
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We better trade up to make sure we don't miss on him!
You guys think a second, a third, and a 2017 second would do it?
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better throw in Randy Gregory and La'el Collins to make sure.
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I would be hesitant to trade up. They have too many holes to fill to be trading away picks. Especially premium picks.
Arizona Cardinals general manager Steve Keim says that bolstering the team's pass rush will be their top priority this offseason according to Darren Urban of cardschatter.com.
The Cardinals ranked 20th in the league in sacks during the regular season with 35 and picked up two more in their two postseason games. It is quite telling that the team's top pass rusher in 2015 was 35-year-old Dwight Freeney, who who recorded eight sacks in 11 games after being signed in October. Freeney is a free agent and not likely to recreate his 2015 success even if he is brought back. 2015 second-round pick Markus Golden out of Missouri was a disruptive force despite landing just four sacks and should only get better, but the Cardinals need more talent on the edge. It would not be surprising if the Cards used their first-round draft pick on a defensive lineman in April.
The Cardinals ranked 20th in the league in sacks during the regular season with 35 and picked up two more in their two postseason games. It is quite telling that the team's top pass rusher in 2015 was 35-year-old Dwight Freeney, who who recorded eight sacks in 11 games after being signed in October. Freeney is a free agent and not likely to recreate his 2015 success even if he is brought back. 2015 second-round pick Markus Golden out of Missouri was a disruptive force despite landing just four sacks and should only get better, but the Cardinals need more talent on the edge. It would not be surprising if the Cards used their first-round draft pick on a defensive lineman in April.
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They should sign Jeremy Mincey and Jack Crawford. I've been told those two are world beaters.
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I heard the same about Jeff Heath. A true ball hawk!
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No, I don't subscribe to a blind BPA theory. And I don't think anyone does. There's got to be a need fit there. We don't need Tunsil. We don't need four 1st rounders on the OL (plus Collins). This team already has to be looking at extending Frederick and Martin in the next few years, we have one big contract on the OL. You can't pick a first rounder every year and keep them past their rookie deals.
It's literally the only place on this roster where we don't have an obvious need. No on OL at 4.
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Very understandable. I personally would not be oppose to taking Tunsil if he were there but I would definitely look to trading down with a team that covets him. I wouldn't move out of the top 10 though. Baltimore or Tampa would my first calls about moving down.
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I call BS on that. Tunsil is clearly the best pick in the draft. He is the only player I rank as a true top 5 pick this year. Bosa to me is nowhere near his hype; same with Ramsey (no turnovers) and Treadwell (big holes in his game as well). Goff is only top 5 because he is a QB. If by 4 Tunsil is still there you try and trade back but if no one gives you a good deal (and I think in that case we would get a good deal) you TAKE HIM. So what if we cannot keep him 5 years from now? 5 years with a top 5 pick IN PLACE OF FREE!!! Think about THAT.
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I think when I do pay attention to the Senior Bowl this week, it’ll be to get educated on at North Dakota State’s Wentz, the most notable of the quarterbacks in Mobile, and the man trying to make the leap into the top 10 of the draft despite not playing at the highest level of the college game. Interestingly, Pro Football Focus has partnered with the Senior Bowl to dissect all the players there. The site will grade each practice and the game on Saturday and create a set of player profiles on all the players there. I asked PFF for its post-season take on Wentz, and ace college grader Steve Palazzolo checked in with this: “The North Dakota State quarterback ticks all of the boxes for NFL scouts—size, arm strength, athleticism—and it’s probable a close-up look will only enhance his standing around the league. PFF analyzed Wentz’s seven-game 2015 performance [he missed several games with a broken wrist], watched every throw and graded it based on difficulty and execution. Already this shows him as comparable in performance level to fellow first-round hopeful Paxton Lynch. The first thing that stands out about Wentz’s game is the easy velocity he creates, often zipping passes into tight windows, even if his timing in the passing game is not always ideal. In our grading, he finished with a ratio of 2.56 positively graded throws for every negative, a ratio that would rank second among FBS quarterbacks (Cal’s Jared Goff ranked third at 2.15). While Wentz’s percentage of ‘big-time throws’ (difficult throws, executed well) doesn’t stick out at 4.1 percent (Goff comes in at 4.86 percent), the nature of the throws will turn heads. Whether throwing a laser up the seam or showing touch on the deep ball, Wentz has the ability to win a game with his downfield throwing, especially if given an opportunity in a vertical passing offense. He’ll come back with some head-scratchers at times (turnover-worthy throws on 3.6 percent of dropbacks, the same percentage as Michigan State’s Connor Cook), adding to his nature as a potential boom-or-bust quarterback. Wentz’s athleticism will help; he is often used as a designed runner in North Dakota State’s offense, and while that won’t be as big a part of his game in the NFL, his ability to pick up first downs as a runner is just an added bonus.” Really looking forward to learning more about Wentz—who’s practicing against big-timers for the first time in his life—and others this week from Mobile.
I think when I do pay attention to the Senior Bowl this week, it’ll be to get educated on at North Dakota State’s Wentz, the most notable of the quarterbacks in Mobile, and the man trying to make the leap into the top 10 of the draft despite not playing at the highest level of the college game. Interestingly, Pro Football Focus has partnered with the Senior Bowl to dissect all the players there. The site will grade each practice and the game on Saturday and create a set of player profiles on all the players there. I asked PFF for its post-season take on Wentz, and ace college grader Steve Palazzolo checked in with this: “The North Dakota State quarterback ticks all of the boxes for NFL scouts—size, arm strength, athleticism—and it’s probable a close-up look will only enhance his standing around the league. PFF analyzed Wentz’s seven-game 2015 performance [he missed several games with a broken wrist], watched every throw and graded it based on difficulty and execution. Already this shows him as comparable in performance level to fellow first-round hopeful Paxton Lynch. The first thing that stands out about Wentz’s game is the easy velocity he creates, often zipping passes into tight windows, even if his timing in the passing game is not always ideal. In our grading, he finished with a ratio of 2.56 positively graded throws for every negative, a ratio that would rank second among FBS quarterbacks (Cal’s Jared Goff ranked third at 2.15). While Wentz’s percentage of ‘big-time throws’ (difficult throws, executed well) doesn’t stick out at 4.1 percent (Goff comes in at 4.86 percent), the nature of the throws will turn heads. Whether throwing a laser up the seam or showing touch on the deep ball, Wentz has the ability to win a game with his downfield throwing, especially if given an opportunity in a vertical passing offense. He’ll come back with some head-scratchers at times (turnover-worthy throws on 3.6 percent of dropbacks, the same percentage as Michigan State’s Connor Cook), adding to his nature as a potential boom-or-bust quarterback. Wentz’s athleticism will help; he is often used as a designed runner in North Dakota State’s offense, and while that won’t be as big a part of his game in the NFL, his ability to pick up first downs as a runner is just an added bonus.” Really looking forward to learning more about Wentz—who’s practicing against big-timers for the first time in his life—and others this week from Mobile.
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Thanks for posting that. How he performs in the Senior Bowl practices and game are going to determine if he's worthy of being drafted #4 or if he falls all the way to the second round.
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Even though I personally like Wentz and think he will end up being the pick I do agree that it's very early in the evaluation process. We need to see him play in the Senior Bowl first. Then see how he performs at the Combine. I'm also still on record as saying that if by some chance Cleveland passes on Goff and all of the QB's are on the board at 4 I'd take Goff in a heartbeat.
If the Cowboys did decide to go in a completely different direction though with the #4 pick I'd take Myles Jack (Treadwell would be my second choice).
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"They're just being coy! It's a smokescreen to hide their interest!"
But the Dallas guy is right. You still got the practices, the game itself, the combine, the Wonderlic, the personal interview, the personal workout, etc.