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Of course why should anyone trust "Paul" about anything? A man who never met Jesus, clashed with the Apostle Peter, and whose entire ministry was based on the idea that he was temporarily "blinded" by the Lord on a road trip? And whose writings wouldn't be canon if the effing Catholic Church didn't decide they were?

You got a twisted view of history, son.



The Catholic Church didn't decide anything; Paul's epistles were used long before Romes decision to play let's make a deal with religion. If they had their way, and they did before the advent of the printing press, no one would have a bible but the 'pontiff'. Church history doesn't start in 312 and Christianity isn't the Hellenized nonsense that Westerners know it to be.
 

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I'd like to know how long child molestation dates back in the Catholic Church.
 
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Paul's epistles were used long before Romes decision to play let's make a deal with religion.

So were plenty of other gospels that were left on the cutting room floor by the inventors of Christianity - the Catholic Church.

It is adorable watching new-age Christian nitwits trying to demonize the one organization that legitimized their faith. Jealousy, I suspect. It'd be like me trying to convince Stephen Hawking that he's wrong by using the book he wrote.
 

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So were plenty of other gospels that were left on the cutting room floor by the inventors of Christianity - the Catholic Church.

It is adorable watching new-age Christian nitwits trying to demonize the one organization that legitimized their faith. Jealousy, I suspect. It'd be like me trying to convince Stephen Hawking that he's wrong by using the book he wrote.

Used by whom and if the CC invented Christianity, what were the Jews doing with those 'gospels' any way?

The idea that this is new is further proof of the CC's damage and just how confused atheists really are. You don't really know what you're arguing against.
 
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The same thing they'd been doing for 2k years - looking for a messiah who never came. Finally someone came along with a new spin and said hey we can use this shit. It's not new, there's been jealous heretics as long as Christianity existed. They all fall away while the big one endures.

If only there was some sort of powerful deity who could step in and set it all straight for ya'll.
 

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The same thing they'd been doing for 2k years - looking for a messiah who never came. Finally someone came along with a new spin and said hey we can use this shit. It's not new, there's been jealous heretics as long as Christianity existed. They all fall away while the big one endures.

It certainly does...

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.



See that no man deceive you. :whistle
 

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Take from The Pagan Christ by Tom Harpur:

There are too many similarities between Horus and Christ to reject the author's claim that the story of Jesus Christ was plagiarised from much earlier Egyptian mythology. Is this just a case of history repeating itself? Are we doing an Egyptian re run? If so, why? Does the cult of Horus prove that Christianity is false? Some parallels between Horus and Jesus Christ:

1. Horus born of a virgin. Jesus born of a virgin.

2. The foster father of Horus was Seb or Seph. Jesus was fostered by Joseph.

3. Horus was of royal descent. Jesus was of royal descent.

4. Horus birth accompanied by three solar deities [star gazers] who followed by the morning star of Sirius bearing gifts. Jesus birth accompanied by three wise men [Zoroastrian star gazers] who followed by a star “in the east” bearing gifts.

5. The birth of Horus announced by angels. The birth of Jesus announced by angels.

6. Herut tried to murder the infant Horus. Herod slaughtered every first born in an attempt to kill Jesus the forthcoming messiah.

7. Horus is baptized at age 30 by Anup the Baptiser at a river. Jesus is baptized at age 30 by John the Baptist at a river.

8. Horus resists temptation by the evil Sut [Sut was to be the precursor for the Hebrew Satan] on a high mountain. Jesus resists temptation by Satan on a high mountain.

9. Horus had 12 followers. Jesus had 12 disciples.

10. Horus performed miracles like healing the sick and walking on water. Jesus performed miracles like healing the sick and walking on water.

11. Horus raised someone from the grave [his father Osiris] Jesus raised Lazarus [notice the name similarity] from the grave. Lazarus is short for Elasarus - the “us” on the end is romanized. Elasarus was derived from “El-Asar” which was the name given to Osiris.

12. Horus was buried and resurrected in the city of Anu. The place Bethany mentioned in John was a derivative of the words “Bet” and “Anu” which translates “the house of Anu”. The ‘y’ on the end of bethany is interchangeable with the letter ‘u’.

13. Horus was killed by crucifixtion. Jesus was crucified.

14. Horus was accompanied by two thieves at the crucifixtion. Jesus was crucified with two thieves.

15. Horus was buried in a tomb at Anu. Jesus was buried in a tomb located in Bethany [Bet-Anu].

16. Horus was resurrected after 3 days. Jesus was “said” to resurrected after over a period of three days.

17. The resurrection of Horus was announced by three women. The resurrection of Jesus was announced by three women.

18. Horus was given the titel KRST which means “anointed one” Jesus was given the title Christ [Christos] meaning “anointed one” -
 

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The Bible is filled with astrological information. Christ had 12 disciples and their were 12 tribes of Israel, which are associated with the 12 signs of the zodiac. In the book, Kabbalistic Astrology it is explained that the 12 sons of Jacob were representative of the 12 signs of the zodiac and that the personality traits of each son were used to describe each Sun Sign we know today.

In the Book of Revelation 4:7 it reads, "And the first animal was like a lion (symbol of Leo), and the second animal was like a bull (symbol of Taurus), and the third animal had a face of a man (symbol of Aquarius, the water bearing man), and the fourth animal was like a flying eagle (ancient symbol of Scorpio)"
 
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It certainly does...



Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.



See that no man deceive you. :whistle

Maybe you ought to listen to Gamaliel. Your way keeps failing, then being resurrected by new religious hipsters and rebranded. Take a hint.
 

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Omg. Their names both end in "s" too.

And in Spanish a "j" sounds like an "h".

Whoa......
 

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Maybe you ought to listen to Gamaliel. Your way keeps failing, then being resurrected by new religious hipsters and rebranded. Take a hint.

If it were failing it wouldn't have endured to make it's way to me.
I'll repeat: you don't even know what you're arguing against.

Hipsters... this really is obscure to you. :lol
 

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:lol Someone must have hit you with a shovel Jon.

My brother and I were throwing bricks once when I was 8 and he hit me in the head with one. I don't even think it left his hand before it hit my head. I had a big goose egg on the side of my temple. Hurt like a motherfucker. God definitely saved me that day. It would have been better if he would have prevented it, but oh well.
 
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Yeah it's "endured" the same way Arianism has, genius. Repackaged, rebranded, flipped and twisted. Meanwhile your "great harlot" just keeps on keepin' on. Don't know what I'm arguing against? I run circles around you when it comes to theological history.

It's all made up bullshit but good lord is your version even more deluded.
 

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Of course it's strange to you; you've been arguing against the counterfeit and don't recognize the true faith as anything other than something you think is one mans delusion. I'm arguing past your revised Roman history to the true roots of Christianity. You probably know less about the Catholicism your understanding is based on, let alone true Christianity.

You've been sucked.
 

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