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jon88 - until you can tell me how our "stupidest president" pulled this off w/o one off references, what is the point?

you in this thread said radical islams are stupid.

but not all of them.

but they have to be.

but they're not.

you're trying to build a house w/o a foundation and it will fall every single time.
 
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"The story about WTC 7 falling down the way it did doesn't make sense, so I believe something else happened that makes even less sense" - Jon88
 

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This was years in the making and it certainly took more than one person to pull it off. Bush just happened to be President at the time.

If some people believe a fire and debris caused WTC 7 to be the first building in history to perfectly implode on itself, then what amount of evidence is going to convince them otherwise? None. It's a waste of time to even try.
 

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Jon88, you seem like a great guy, but you are not a structural engineer. There is no possible way that this was orchestrated by the US Government. Are there oddities and things that can be strung together to make a plausible conspiracy? maybe...but it did not happen the way you want to believe it did.

The part I think most people will agree with is the government did take the terror attack and turn it into an opportunity for greatly expanded powers. Bush was bad and Obama is even worse with regards to trampling individual rights, but the government did not plan and execute the attack. They just took advantage of the incident for their own gain.
 

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I wish that was the case JBond, but I just don't think 3 buildings can fall the way they did without something more than fire. Remember the Oklahoma City Bombing? Half of the building was blown off yet they had to use controlled demolition to level it. WTC 7 looked perfectly fine and in 4 seconds it's gone, perfectly collapsed on itself. I'm not a structural engineer, but I know bullshit when I see it.

I know thinking the government had anything to do with this is a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth in my opinion.
 

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I'm sure I missed a lot in this thread, but didn't someone at some point say they took down 7 intentionally for some sort of safety reason?
 

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I'm sure I missed a lot in this thread, but didn't someone at some point say they took down 7 intentionally for some sort of safety reason?

Yeah they did.

I guess it was already rigged with explosives in case it caught fire :fern
 

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I wish that was the case JBond, but I just don't think 3 buildings can fall the way they did without something more than fire. Remember the Oklahoma City Bombing? Half of the building was blown off yet they had to use controlled demolition to level it. WTC 7 looked perfectly fine and in 4 seconds it's gone, perfectly collapsed on itself. I'm not a structural engineer, but I know bullshit when I see it.

I know thinking the government had anything to do with this is a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth in my opinion.

How should they have fallen?

Toppled over?
 

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Yikes. Damn, that's a pretty brutal thread. I have no idea what anyone looks like except ice and Bob. I never had any problem with Hos, but I have to admit I laughed. 'Jorts'. LOL
 
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