Who Here is Not Entirely Sold on Dak Prescott?

[Doomsday]

I would normally agree with you but if that were the case why haven’t they paid him already?

He turned down a 33 mil/year offer last spring. There's really no rush to sign him immediately. Hopefully they're thinking long and hard about it.

Michael Irvin's take intrigues me somewhat, his insistance that "important people" told him at the SB we were looking at trading Dak and signing Brady.

And the more I think about that the more I'd actually like to see it. I think it would be a mistake but I have to admit it would be exciting to see Brady in Staubach's old #12 jersey!

If we can wrangle a 1st and some other picks for Dak, we're way ahead on the investment of a 4th round compensatory pick. It could possibly be a Walker trade type move. Certainly bold.

 

[spiderfan_MJ]

Didn’t Murray put up over 1,800 yards and hold the Cowboys single season rushing record? People like to say that Romo didn’t have good teams around him but the fact is he had a couple of great teams around him, he just shit the bed on one of this chances and got screwed by the refs in the other.

Romo had some talent around him. Dak has some talent around him. But who was the better QB? That is the question.

 

[Dodger12]

Twilly? Had his best years, with Dak.

I can always tell when you've fallen off the wagon and started drinking again.

 

[Dodger12]

Whether to pay them or not when neither has accomplished anything. My answer is NO to both. But all of you Romo lovers didn't put up one gripe about HIM getting paid, even though he was a turnover and sack machine and was a fucking china doll. And would saddle the D with buttloads of 3 and outs on a consistent basis. That might be why the D looked suspect. Feast or famine is more entertaining.

We're talking about one QB here. This thread is dedicated to him and his name is not Romo. It does nothing for the discussion when you keep bringing up a QB that no one, at least me, is talking about. We get it.....you don't like Romo. But that discussion is not relevant to this one. No one gives a shit, really. And Romo should have no bearing on your evaluation of Dak as a QB. You can't get over Dak's shortcomings which were evident this season by bringing up a QB.

And I'm not sure there were a whole lot of people who were enamored with Romo's contract. By that point, his arm was shot, he lost any zip he had and he was a shell of his former self from a physical standpoint. That was apparent to a lot of people and I thought they'd grab a QB with their top 5 pick in 2016. Most folks knew Romo's better days were behind him so I don't know what you're yapping about.

 

[Doomsday]

We get it.....you don't like Romo.

You don't get it!

Romo is relevant here because he was the last QB we signed to a big contract. And how did that turn out? Also every gripe people have about Dak were also true of Romo. And all I ever read here at DCU and elsewhere was "pay the man." And what a football God he was.

I was on an island saying let him test the market. People here and elsewhere said I was either nuts, drunk, or just trolling. Of course they all fell silent when I was proven spot on correct. Had they let him test the market his bulging disk would have been found.

They should let Dak test the market. Or just trade him if we can sign Brady. Like Romo, Dak hasn't done shit with his time here. We don't owe him any loyalty at this point. My argument against both is identical.

 

[SixisBetter]

Romo had some talent around him. Dak has some talent around him. But who was the better QB? That is the question.

That's like finding out who the tallest midget is.
Romo was both brilliant and a fuck up, sometimes on consecutive downs.
I mean who can forget him matadoring JJ Watt? Also who can forget him hitting a wide open Revis vs the Jets?
Dak's rookie season was one for the books. Mostly because he didn't know he wasn't supposed to be doing some of the shit he was doing. It didn't hurt Zeke was on his side either.
He regressed, but to be fair, Coach Chickenshit had something to do with that. Also, here's my sticky note sized playbook Marinelli.
Romo never got us over the hump and neither has Dak so far.

The thought of Brady playing here kinda interests me, I think both he and Belichick wouldn't mind getting rid of the " one can't win without the other" trope going around the league.

 

[spiderfan_MJ]

Romo never got us over the hump and neither has Dak so far.

Totally true and that is why I would like to see Brady in a Cowboys uniform.

 

[Dodger12]

Romo is relevant here because he was tge ladt QB we signed to a big contract. And how did that turn out?

We made Troy the highest paid player in the NFL. How did that turn out?

I mean, are you really going to take the latest "failure" and paint it across such a broad spectrum? Hey guys, we picked a CB at #6...how did that turn out? We took Steven McGee in the 4th round and look how that turned out!!!! As if that somehow applies to Dez.

Romo and Dez are two different scenarios. Romo was pretty washed up by that time we paid him that contract. Dez should be entering his prime. The question is, is he worth the money? It's really not hard. Let him test the market, just like we should have let Zeke test the market (which would be a better comparison).

 

[Doomsday]

Totally true and that is why I would like to see Brady in a Cowboys uniform.

It would represent, trying something else for a change.

You gutted the coaching staff, lets do some major surgery on this roster now too.

 

[Doomsday]

We made Troy the highest paid player int eh NFL. How did that turn out?

Not even comparable, Troy wasn't a UDFA or a fucking 4th round compensatory pick. He was the #1 overall pick of the 1989 draft.

 

[Scot]

I would normally agree with you but if that were the case why haven’t they paid him already? Why drag this out when that only costs them more money?


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They offered him $33mil a year and he turned it down according to reports. So it’s not the Cowboys not wanting to get it done.

 

[Dodger12]

Not even comparable, Troy wasn't a UDFA or a fucking 4th round compensatory pick. He was the #1 overall pick of the 1989 draft.

I'm sorry, I must have missed that in your post. You sure do move the goal posts quite a bit.

 

[Doomsday]

You sure do move the goal posts quite a bit.

Such irony, from the guy who's actually trying to do that.

The goalpost is and was only this: Signing Romo to his huge deal without letting him test the market was a huge mistake. Everyone agrees on that, even if just in retrospect. Which for me it was not. And we're back at that very same crossroad today.

TODAY I'm saying, let's NOT repeat that same mistake with Dak. I'M saying that barring a straight-up trade if you tag him make it non-exclusive so he can field other offers. And if he takes one of those offers, don't match it. Collect the two 1st round picks his new team would have to give us and reap the profit trading a 4th round compensatory pick for two 1sts. That's a transaction wildcatter Jerry can appreciate.

Now, my idea entails the risk that nobody will pony up an offer sheet and we keep Dak for 27 mil or some such for one year. That doesn't stop us from signing a Brady or a Brees anyway, then after the season you trade Dak. Can't trade him while he's under tender, but can after that season.

 

[Doomsday]

when you franchise tag a guy and he knocks it out of the park your "worry" is that you now will need to pony up the cash

Which, is the exact bet Dak made when he refused our offer. He was betting he was going to beast it out, get us to the SB then could command 40 mil or more per season. He lost his fucking bet, there should be a consequence for that.

 

[Dodger12]

Such irony, from the guy who's actually trying to do that.

The goalpost is and was only this: Signing Romo to his huge deal without letting him test the market was a huge mistake. Everyone agrees on that, even if just in retrospect. Which for me it was not. And we're back at that very same crossroad today.

TODAY I'm saying, let's NOT repeat that same mistake with Dak. I'M saying that barring a straight-up trade if you tag him make it non-exclusive so he can field other offers. And if he takes one of those offers, don't match it. Collect the two 1st round picks his new team would have to give us and reap the profit trading a 4th round compensatory pick for two 1sts. That's a transaction wildcatter Jerry can appreciate.

Now, my idea entails the risk that nobody will pony up an offer sheet and we keep Dak for 27 mil or some such for one year. That doesn't stop us from signing a Brady or a Brees anyway, then after the season you trade Dak. Can't trade him while he's under tender, but can after that season.

No one is disagreeing with this post, at least not me. But you've morphed the discussion into something else and brought Romo into the fray with soem stat BS that didn't prove what you said it was trying to prove. No idea why you're so infatuated with Romo but whatever makes you feel better.

 

[Doomsday]

brought Romo into the fray with soem stat BS that didn't prove what you said it was trying to prove.

Two no-accomplishment guys have nearly identical stats on 8-8 teams, lots of garbage stats in there, when they're up for a new big money deal. That's the parallel and part of the history which if our FO doesn't learn, are doomed to repeat.

It's not anything like you're trying to make it. Nobody's picking on poor ole Choker Tony. You're just way butt-sensitive when it comes to the lovable loser. Meanies keep bringing him up, must defend.

 

[Dodger12]

Two no-accomplishment guys have nearly identical stats on 8-8 teams, lots of garbage stats in there, when they're up for a new big money deal. That's the parallel and part of the history which if our FO doesn't learn, are doomed to repeat.

It's not anything like you're trying to make it. Nobody's picking on poor ole Choker Tony. You're just way butt-sensitive when it comes to the lovable loser. Meanies keep bringing him up, must defend.

What happeened with one player doesn't necessarily mean it will repeat itself with another player. Just because Romo didn't live up to his contract doesn't mean another QB won't. Having said that, I don't think Prescott is that QB.

But whatever makes you feel better. You've got a real bad obsession.

 

[Doomsday]

What happeened with one player doesn't necessarily mean it will repeat itself with another player. Just because Romo didn't live up to his contract doesn't mean another QB won't. Having said that, I don't think Prescott is that QB.

But whatever makes you feel better. You've got a real bad obsession.

It's quite predictable actually. We've seen the playoff appearances for #4. Nothing good happened. 13-3, 12-4... We've seen this all before. Jerry doing all the same shit but expecting different results.

 

[Doomsday]

Jay Glazer saying Dak isn't asking for 40, it'll be Mahomes getting that, and the Dak camp recognizes league and SB MVP is a higher tier. Glazer also saying there is no way we trade Dak or expose him to the market, and a deal WILL get done.

Glazer's pretty reliable and no nonsense, so it's safe to bet on his take unfortunately.

 

[icup]

Jay Glazer saying Dak isn't asking for 40, it'll be Mahomes getting that, and the Dak camp recognizes league and SB MVP is a higher tier. Glazer also saying there is no way we trade Dak or expose him to the market, and a deal WILL get done.

Glazer's pretty reliable and no nonsense, so it's safe to bet on his take unfortunately.

i bet he's still asking north of 35 mil