What fires actually do to skyscrapers

[Irving Cowboy]

People with degrees in structural engineering have proven what happened, that the fire burned hot enough to weaken the steel enough that it collapsed, ("imploded", sorry but I hadn't heard that before) yet you know better.

No reason for the government doing it, but I know they did it.

I think I like your style. Good enough for me.

 

[dbair1967]

You're right. It normally takes a massive fucking jet flying into it for it to implode.

Don't try to use common sense regarding this iam

 

[dbair1967]

What was the reasoning behind taking down a building that 99% of Americans really didn't know existed?
Surely if you subscribe to the theory that the government took it down, you've also formulated a good reason.

Remember X Files the movie? I bet it was that.

 

[Jon88]

Don't try to use common sense regarding this iam

Right, because a plane hit WTC7.

Was this a special fire? Why didn't the other buildings collapse?

I'm sure it's absolutely impossible to pay off engineers to say a bunch of bullshit.

 

[dbair1967]

Right, because a plane hit WTC7.

Was this a special fire? Why didn't the other buildings collapse?

I'm sure it's absolutely impossible to pay off engineers to say a bunch of bullshit.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

I'm sure it's absolutely impossible to pay off engineers to say a bunch of bullshit.

So that's the cause of sequestration?

 

[Jon88]

I don't know. Ask an engineer.

 

[JBond]

 

[SixisBetter]

Jon's a stubborn cuss,I'll give him that.

 

[JBond]

Jon's a stubborn cuss,I'll give him that.

The thing is, I partner with one of the most prestigious engineering firms in the world and have for the last 15 years. I had several discussions with them about 9/11 and this conspiracy stuff regarding the trade towers and the pentagon is pure crap. I can see why some individuals want to believe it. I fully believe the rulers of our country have used 9/11 to institute draconian measures against the people they are supposed to protect, but the actual event was not staged by the government.

 

[Jon88]

Still not buying it. Fire doesn't cause buildings to implode. Period.

 

[JBond]

um...yes it can Jon. It has happened before. Google is your friend.

A challenge to conspiracy theorists:

1) Find a steel frame building at least 40 stories high

2) Which takes up a whole city block

3) And is a "Tube in a tube" design

4) Which came off its core columns at the bottom floors (Earthquake, fire, whatever - WTC 7)

5) Which was struck by another building or airliner and had structural damage as a result.

6) And weakened by fire for over 6 hours

7) And had trusses that were bolted on with two 5/8" bolts.

 

[SixisBetter]

I fully believe the rulers of our country have used 9/11 to institute draconian measures against the people they are supposed to protect, but the actual event was not staged by the government.

No question about it.
I also can see why some folks want to believe as well.

 

[Hoofbite]

Just out of curiosity, Jon.......how many engineers have you consulted on your path to arriving at this conclusion?

 

[Jon88]

Just out of curiosity, Jon.......how many engineers have you consulted on your path to arriving at this conclusion?

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