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That would be a swell idea. Continue to bring Carter along slowly. According to his scouting reports (Carter) he was prone to mis-reading plays in college. So he might need to be a bit player and work his way up the depth chart as he learns more of the game.

Watch the buffalo game, he had no idea what he was doing, he was responsible for two big jackson runs...looked to guess on the wrong gap or just went numb.......first game so he was probably ridiculously nervous.

We still need a vet ilb even if Carter is a pro bowler. We only have two and lemon. We need a veteran a guy like jackson Ryan knows and will find roles for him. They all will play.
 

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Goose Gosselin out on covering the draft.

Dallas Morning News told him he is not covering the draft anymore.

Gosselin sux covering the NFL, but he was awesome at the draft

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Gosselin sux covering the NFL, but he was awesome at the draft

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Their entire website has gone to hell. It went from decent to downright terrible in just a couple of years. I don't even bother with writers like Garry Fraley or Brandon George. They do not know a thing about the Cowboys or the game in general for that matter.

I don't value Gosselin for much beyond the draft, but this is awful if they remove him from the one thing he does do well.
 
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I like the idea of signing all three of those guys.

Wasn't Roth available last year though, I thought he was mentioned before in the media and that we were interested last year too?

Jackson would play opposite Ware but what does that mean for Carter unless they think he needs a full season before handing him the job.

And as far as Routt goes I just hope we don't over pay him if he were to sign here. I'm also on board as well to draft another corner in the second or third. Minniefield, Gilmore, Hayward, Johnson.
 

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He's supposed to be the best 5 technique in the draft. Great wingspan. Young, only 20, still growing.

The team loved JJ Watt last year. 5 technique is a huge hole for this team.

Do you not like the player, or the position?

I have read things from Wes Bunting where he thinks he hung the moon. So I watched some footage of him (just game footage, not highlights) and I was unimpressed.

Here is a good video to watch against good competition:

[video=youtube;DQp5lx-hdCM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQp5lx-hdCM[/video]

I see a lot of Tyson Jackson and Marcus Spears here.
 

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Gosselin sux covering the NFL, but he was awesome at the draft

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yep just like peter king.

brilliant at relaying info given to them in a compelling and interesting way....terrible at breaking down a game on there own.
 

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Dqwell is going to want too much money. It isn't worth it.

Get a guy like Larry Grant who is low risk high reward.

Sign Routt, Williams and Nicks letss goooooo
 
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He's supposed to be the best 5 technique in the draft. Great wingspan. Young, only 20, still growing.

The team loved JJ Watt last year. 5 technique is a huge hole for this team.

Do you not like the player, or the position?

Position if we are going to move Rat to DE.. which we should. Player because 14 is too high for him and he didn't produce anywhere near as much as Watt did in college.
 

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17 in one year is impressive. Lets sign him up! We don't take enough penalties as it is.

Not to mention the 8 TD's he gave up last year.. he'll fit right in here.

Haha.

I was wondering when someone would mention how shitty giving up 8 or 9 TDs is.

We're ditching Newman and want a guy who was scored on more?

But, that completion percentage is awfully nice. Guess it helps when you mug the ever-loving fuck out of the guy and get flagged.
 
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Haha.

I was wondering when someone would mention how shitty giving up 8 or 9 TDs is.

We're ditching Newman and want a guy who was scored on more?

But, that completion percentage is awfully nice. Guess it helps when you mug the ever-loving fuck out of the guy and get flagged.

Yup...and that was 17 penalties with the Raiders. Would be more like 25 if he played for the Cowboys.
 

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There a Raider blog that has all sorts of information on how Routt played this last year. Videos from every game, of supposedly all the passess attempted in his direction, however there are no videos of the penalties.

I don't know how he got to that 41.7% completion mark but if the plays that I saw in some of those videos were included, completion percentage is only moderately useful at best.

There were plays where the QB is flushed and DELIBERATELY threw it at the feet of the receiver to kill the play.

Here's the blog. It's actually a VERY good collection of information but it's a little forgiving in trying to say that Routt didn't have a bad season.

http://www.raiders.ninjagoro.com/2012/01/stanford-routts-2011-season-part-4-the-pass-plays/

Just watch the Week 1 clip. Here are the accompanying play descriptions.

Slot right against Eddie Royal. 4 yard jerk route. Pass tipped at the line of scrimmage incomplete

Pass tipped and falls short and the credit goes to Routt?

Slot right against Brandon Lloyd. Deep Corner route. 42 yard pass broken up by Routt.

Didn't get his head around, wasn't making a play on the ball at all and made contact before the ball gets there. That's a fucking penalty. I can't believe Dilfer called it good coverage. If he turns around to make a play on the ball, then we can talk good coverage but when you are beaten, do not turn and look AND then make contact before the ball is there it's a penalty 99% of the time.

Wide left against Eddie Royal in motion. 4 yard slat. Dropped pass.

Dropped. I'm assuming this is counted by the bean counters but in no way it is indicative of the DBs play.

***Wide left against Brandon Lloyd. 5 yard slant. Short throw. Incomplete.

Piss poor throw in the ground, behind the WR.

Wide Left against Eddie Royal. 10 yard out. Thrown away. Incomplete

Thrown out of bounds to who the fuck knows.

Wide Left against Eddie Royal in motion. Drops into zone. 15 yard out. Complete.

The only completion on him all day. QB went 1/6 against Routt.

1 completion however 5 of the incompletions came on drops, shit throws, throws OB, tipped at the LOS and on a play that should have been pass interference.

Don't get me wrong, the scales used to measure DBs across the league is the same. In theory it should all equal itself out and completion percentage can probably be used because it's unlikely, not impossible however, that a player benefit from the offense fucking up an abnormal amount of times.

But there is still a chance that a guy's completion percentage be heavily skewed by offensive ineptitude.

I'm going to have to take a look at the other clips. Just need some time that I can waste sitting around watching it. Too busy right now.
 
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Yep like I said the numbers on DB's are not always indicative of their play. There are so many variables that could skew the whole data that you can't rely on that. How many times have you heard good/bad things about a db only to hear their fanbase explain why it's not reflective of said players abilities.

Just get a guy like finnegan who knows how to find his ass and move on to bigger needs
 
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