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Can probably just copy/paste this same link in most of the threads midswat posts in:
http://www.dallascowboysuniverse.co...ints-this-year&p=149022&viewfull=1#post149022
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Can probably just copy/paste this same link in most of the threads midswat posts in:
http://www.dallascowboysuniverse.co...ints-this-year&p=149022&viewfull=1#post149022
Oh, I dunno...
A broken nose. Gashes on the back of the head. Grass stains on the back of the shirt.
Witnesses saying they heard Zimmerman yelling for help. Witnesses saying Martin was on top of him.
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Oh brother.
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Police Surveillance Video Shows no Blood or Bruises on Zimmerman
http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-video-shows-no-blood-bruises-george-194108003--abc-news-topstories.html
http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-martin-video-shows-no-blood-bruises-george-194108003--abc-news-topstories.html
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Geez. One of the groups is going to riot when there side loses.
I have a white hoodie is that like an oxy moron now?
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So if none of those things are visible what then?
http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-marti...es-george-194108003--abc-news-topstories.html
Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman
By MATT GUTMAN | Good Morning America – 9 hrs ago
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A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain who says he shot Martin after he was punched in the nose, knocked down and had his head slammed into the ground.
The surveillance video, which was obtained exclusively by ABC News, shows Zimmerman arriving in a police cruiser. As he exits the car, his hands are cuffed behind his back. Zimmerman is frisked and then led down a series of hallways, still cuffed.
Zimmerman, 28, is wearing a red and black fleece and his face and head are cleanly shaven. He appears well built, hardly the portly young man depicted in a 2005 mug shot that until a two days ago was the single image the media had of Zimmerman.
The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning.
His lawyer later insisted that Zimmerman's nose had been broken in his scuffle with 17-year-old Martin.
In the video an officer is seen pausing to look at the back of Zimmerman's head, but no abrasions or blood can be seen in the video and he did not check into the emergency room following the police questioning.
Zimmerman was not arrested although ABC News has learned that the lead homicide investigator filed an affidavit urging Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter. The prosecutor, however, told the officer to not file the charge because there was not enough evidence for conviction.
Zimmerman said he was heading back to his car when Martin attacked him. His lawyer, Craig Sonner, said his client felt "one of them was going to die that night," when he pulled the trigger.
Martin's girlfriend, who was on the phone with him in his final moments, told ABC News in an exclusive interview that she has not been interviewed by police, despite Martin telling her he was being followed.
The 16-year-old girl, who is only being identified as DeeDee, recounted the final moments of her conversation with Martin before the line went dead.
"When he saw the man behind him again he said this man is going to do something to him. And then he said this man is still behind him and I said run," she said.
Phone records obtained by ABC News show that the girl called Martin at 7:12 p.m., five minutes before police arrived, and remained on the phone with Martin until moments before he was shot.
DeeDee said Martin turned around and asked Zimmerman why he was following him.
"The man said what are you doing around here?" DeeDee recalled Zimmerman saying.
She said she heard someone pushed into the grass before the call was dropped.
Zimmerman, who had called 911, was asked by the dispatcher if he was following the teen. When Zimmerman replied that he was, the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that."
Martin's death has sparked protests across the country and prompted President Obama to say that if he had a son, he would look like Martin.
Over the past few days, leaks have emerged suggesting Martin was dogged by discipline problems.
Martin had been slapped with a 10 day school suspension after a bag with suspected marijuana was found in his backpack, Benjamin Crump, the family's attorney, said.
Last year the teen was suspended for spraying graffiti on school grounds. The Miami Herald reported that the school guard who stopped him searched his backpack and found 12 items of women's jewelry and a flathead screw driver that the guard believed to be a "burglary implement." But Martin was never charged or specifically disciplined for the incident.
Crump alleged that the Sanford police had leaked damaging information about Martin in order to muddy the case, calling it a "conspiracy." Crump called the school disciplinary problems "irrelevant" to the case that "an unarmed 17 year kid was killed."
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So if none of those things are visible what then?
http://news.yahoo.com/trayvon-marti...es-george-194108003--abc-news-topstories.html
Trayvon Martin Video Shows No Blood or Bruises on George Zimmerman
By MATT GUTMAN | Good Morning America – 9 hrs ago
37
A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch captain who says he shot Martin after he was punched in the nose, knocked down and had his head slammed into the ground.
The surveillance video, which was obtained exclusively by ABC News, shows Zimmerman arriving in a police cruiser. As he exits the car, his hands are cuffed behind his back. Zimmerman is frisked and then led down a series of hallways, still cuffed.
Zimmerman, 28, is wearing a red and black fleece and his face and head are cleanly shaven. He appears well built, hardly the portly young man depicted in a 2005 mug shot that until a two days ago was the single image the media had of Zimmerman.
The initial police report noted that Zimmerman was bleeding from the back of the head and nose, and after medical attention it was decided that he was in good enough condition to travel in a police cruiser to the Sanford, Fla., police station for questioning.
His lawyer later insisted that Zimmerman's nose had been broken in his scuffle with 17-year-old Martin.
In the video an officer is seen pausing to look at the back of Zimmerman's head, but no abrasions or blood can be seen in the video and he did not check into the emergency room following the police questioning.
Zimmerman was not arrested although ABC News has learned that the lead homicide investigator filed an affidavit urging Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter. The prosecutor, however, told the officer to not file the charge because there was not enough evidence for conviction.
Zimmerman said he was heading back to his car when Martin attacked him. His lawyer, Craig Sonner, said his client felt "one of them was going to die that night," when he pulled the trigger.
Martin's girlfriend, who was on the phone with him in his final moments, told ABC News in an exclusive interview that she has not been interviewed by police, despite Martin telling her he was being followed.
The 16-year-old girl, who is only being identified as DeeDee, recounted the final moments of her conversation with Martin before the line went dead.
"When he saw the man behind him again he said this man is going to do something to him. And then he said this man is still behind him and I said run," she said.
Phone records obtained by ABC News show that the girl called Martin at 7:12 p.m., five minutes before police arrived, and remained on the phone with Martin until moments before he was shot.
DeeDee said Martin turned around and asked Zimmerman why he was following him.
"The man said what are you doing around here?" DeeDee recalled Zimmerman saying.
She said she heard someone pushed into the grass before the call was dropped.
Zimmerman, who had called 911, was asked by the dispatcher if he was following the teen. When Zimmerman replied that he was, the dispatcher said, "We don't need you to do that."
Martin's death has sparked protests across the country and prompted President Obama to say that if he had a son, he would look like Martin.
Over the past few days, leaks have emerged suggesting Martin was dogged by discipline problems.
Martin had been slapped with a 10 day school suspension after a bag with suspected marijuana was found in his backpack, Benjamin Crump, the family's attorney, said.
Last year the teen was suspended for spraying graffiti on school grounds. The Miami Herald reported that the school guard who stopped him searched his backpack and found 12 items of women's jewelry and a flathead screw driver that the guard believed to be a "burglary implement." But Martin was never charged or specifically disciplined for the incident.
Crump alleged that the Sanford police had leaked damaging information about Martin in order to muddy the case, calling it a "conspiracy." Crump called the school disciplinary problems "irrelevant" to the case that "an unarmed 17 year kid was killed."
[video=youtube;N5OiLQjUcOU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5OiLQjUcOU[/video]
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I haven't watched the video yet or read that article yet. I need coffee.
I just know it's been reported that he had a broken nose, was yelling for help while Traymon was on top of him, had grass stains on his back, etc. If memory serves, the police report even stated that.
It's early.... did an ambulance come? Was he checked out and cleaned up before going to the station? I don't know.
We don't know all the info.
Obviously, if the evidence doesn't back up his story, and he wasn't in as much despair as has been described, and he shot TM just because, then I'd agree he needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent.
But I still wouldn't concede that TM was killed because the GZ was/is a racist.
And TM isn't the skittle eating school boy that the media painted him out to be.
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From that video, you can't really tell if he had cuts on the back of his head or not. All views were from a distance- no closeups. And also, it has been said he received medical treatment on site. So if the paramedics cleaned him up, and used something like thrombin (blood coagulant) on the wounds, there wouldn't be any blood shown on the video, as the bleeding would have been stopped. All we have to go by is that it has been reported that he was bleeding from the head and nose on site. Also, you don't need a gaping head wound to get substantial blood. Any small cut to the scalp bleeds like a SOB. Even those not requiring stitches.
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lol
Paramedics do not administer thrombin anywhere I have worked at least. I doubt they have that authority in any state. Would be a shitshow.
Besides that, thrombin is not indicated in the acute management of a scalp laceration in this country. If the laceration were truly an issue, he would have needed to go to a hospital for tetanus prophylaxis, suturing/staples, and likely antibiotic treatment.
Paramedics do not administer thrombin anywhere I have worked at least. I doubt they have that authority in any state. Would be a shitshow.
Besides that, thrombin is not indicated in the acute management of a scalp laceration in this country. If the laceration were truly an issue, he would have needed to go to a hospital for tetanus prophylaxis, suturing/staples, and likely antibiotic treatment.
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You would at least see redness in this video. The camera is close enough to see it, especially when the glare comes directly off the back of his head. His nose doesn't look red at all.
This is ridiculous. Prosecutors and police do talk during the investigation phase, but I think if the lead homicide investigator thinks he should be charged, then the police should charge him. The prosecutor can later determine whether there is enough evidence to prosecute after a full and complete investigation, not right after the incident. The prosecutor can then seek a no bill.
The effect of this is that the police department is catching the heat for not arresting and charging him, and the prosecutor is escaping heat by not indicting him. Probably the way the prosecutor wanted it. Sounds political.
So Zimmerman called 911, followed Martin, spoke with him and asked what he was doing there after Martin asks why Zimmerman's following him, and then Zimmerman just turns around and heads back to his car? Yeah right.
The different stories coming out of Zimmerman himself are all you need to know what really happened.
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Awesome. Except I didn't say they used thrombin. I said "something like", meaning that they had stopped the bleeding before saying he was ok to ride in the cruiser to the police station. Look at the pic Iamtdg posted above. The enhanced closeup sure looks like there is some kind of wound there.
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He would have needed treatment at a hospital if the wound was actually that large.
It wouldn't just stop bleeding. And no, paramedics do not administer coagulation cascade factors of any kind in the field in America at least. "something like" thrombin is not indicated for that injury anyway.
It wouldn't just stop bleeding. And no, paramedics do not administer coagulation cascade factors of any kind in the field in America at least. "something like" thrombin is not indicated for that injury anyway.