Trayvon Martin shooting: Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering him

[lons]

He confirms following Martin on the 911 tapes. IMO, he became the aggressor when he stepped out of his vehicle.

Sounded more like he was following him, the police on his 911 tape told him not to and then he went to go back to his truck and was attacked. Maybe that's what's wrong in the US. Folks that get raped, mugged, and beaten within an inch of their lives were the aggressors for leaving their homes in the first place.

Who knew?

 

[lons]

tha little known plight of Whitey.

You've obviously never been to the South. To say that white men are the only people that are or can be racist is something you should try out sometime. Take a walk through Memphis sometime, away from the areas they want you to see. Same with New Orleans.

White men/women didn't invent racism. I know TV likes to show everyone living in perfect harmony. But the fact of the matter is a black mother doesn't want to see her son with a white woman anymore than any other race. You can write every law you want. You can draw any conclusions you want. But live in the real world and every race hates every race just about the same. Just as it is in everything under the sun, there are tangents of course that hate just a little more than the rest. The problem is that we have redefined racism to the point that unless you marry a different race or sound off how someone else is racist, then you're racist. And it just isn't the case.

 

[Cythim]

Sounded more like he was following him, the police on his 911 tape told him not to and then he went to go back to his truck and was attacked. Maybe that's what's wrong in the US. Folks that get raped, mugged, and beaten within an inch of their lives were the aggressors for leaving their homes in the first place.

Who knew?

Hyperbole, how cute!

Zimmerman made himself a threat toward Martin and ended up getting beaten for it. If Zimmerman thought Martin was up to no good he should stay in his car and wait for police to handle the situation instead of getting involved in something he was not properly trained or equipped to handle.

 

[UVAwahoos]

If whites don't want it to be a racism issue, just cite all the incidents where the same thing, or anything similar, has occurred to a white kid in a gated community.

Looking forward to it.

 

[Cythim]

If whites don't want it to be a racism issue, just cite all the incidents where the same thing, or anything similar, has occurred to a white kid in a gated community.

Looking forward to it.

White kid was doused with gas and lit on fire by two black kids. They said something like, "Thats what you get, whitey" while doing it.

 

[lons]

If whites don't want it to be a racism issue, just cite all the incidents where the same thing, or anything similar, has occurred to a white kid in a gated community.

Looking forward to it.

Ok, let's start with...

Where was the National outcry on this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

According to news reports, Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was carjacked, bound and blindfolded by three males, and "taken back to Lemaricus Devall 'Slim' Davidson's rented house on Chipman Street."

Christian's parents found her abandoned Toyota 4-Runner two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian's body in a trash can in the kitchen.

According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire.

Channon's death came only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said

 

[superpunk]

You've obviously never been to the South. To say that white men are the only people that are or can be racist is something you should try out sometime. Take a walk through Memphis sometime, away from the areas they want you to see. Same with New Orleans.

White men/women didn't invent racism. I know TV likes to show everyone living in perfect harmony. But the fact of the matter is a black mother doesn't want to see her son with a white woman anymore than any other race. You can write every law you want. You can draw any conclusions you want. But live in the real world and every race hates every race just about the same. Just as it is in everything under the sun, there are tangents of course that hate just a little more than the rest. The problem is that we have redefined racism to the point that unless you marry a different race or sound off how someone else is racist, then you're racist. And it just isn't the case.

you live in your own world bro

 

[UVAwahoos]

White kid was doused with gas and lit on fire by two black kids. They said something like, "Thats what you get, whitey" while doing it.

Cool. Those kids are probably in jail for life now, and everyone probably is ok with that.

But not with Zimmerman. The child was black and had an empty bag of weed at school. Probably in a gang too! World is a better place. Retribution for OJ. Awesome.

 

[Cythim]

Cool. Those kids are probably in jail for life now, and everyone probably is ok with that.

But not with Zimmerman. The child was black and had an empty bag of weed at school. Probably in a gang too! World is a better place. Retribution for OJ. Awesome.

The kids still haven't been caught yet.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Ok, let's start with...

Where was the National outcry on this one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

According to news reports, Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was carjacked, bound and blindfolded by three males, and "taken back to Lemaricus Devall 'Slim' Davidson's rented house on Chipman Street."

Christian's parents found her abandoned Toyota 4-Runner two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian's body in a trash can in the kitchen.

According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire.

Channon's death came only after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution - all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said

Awesome also.

It's a case where the cops actually cared and investigated. It went to trial and the facts were gruesomely shared with everyone.

You peeps don't understand that the child in our current case did not get this due diligence. That's the whole point. Some say he didn't get it because of racism. Whites hate that tired, overplayed argument, but then y'all produce cases where, in reverse, the law thoroughly investigates and makes sure to prosecute. Trayvon not only got murdered, but we also know that the cops did not do a complete investigation. Those are the facts.

 

[lons]

Awesome also.

It's a case where the cops actually cared and investigated. It went to trial and the facts were gruesomely shared with everyone.

You peeps don't understand that the child in our current case did not get this due diligence. That's the whole point. Some say he didn't get it because of racism. Whites hate that tired, overplayed argument, but then y'all produce cases where, in reverse, the law thoroughly investigates and makes sure to prosecute. Trayvon not only got murdered, but we also know that the cops did not do a complete investigation. Those are the facts.

I think they did investigate. I think they went with the evidence. I think this entire thing is a farce to get black folks whipped up into a storm so they'll go out and vote for the black guy again to protect em from the evil whiteys.

 

[Cythim]

Awesome also.

It's a case where the cops actually cared and investigated. It went to trial and the facts were gruesomely shared with everyone.

You peeps don't understand that the child in our current case did not get this due diligence. That's the whole point. Some say he didn't get it because of racism. Whites hate that tired, overplayed argument, but then y'all produce cases where, in reverse, the law thoroughly investigates and makes sure to prosecute. Trayvon not only got murdered, but we also know that the cops did not do a complete investigation. Those are the facts.

The case isn't even done yet, they are investigating still and doing the grand jury thing in April. I agree due diligence was not done on the spot, but I think it is more out of circumstance and who Zimmerman is (son of a judge) and not out of racism. I've got no problem with outing racism, but that does not make every case where a black person is wronged race related.

 

[UVAwahoos]

The kids still haven't been caught yet.

Well, I am not sure what case you're talking about, but if the suspects are ever caught, I doubt they'll get the treatment that Zimmerman got.

That's the main issue here. By all accounts, the child in our case was never breaking any laws in the first place, yet Zimmerman's defenders are up in arms coming up with excuses and nitpicking statements to support an agenda that clearly has merited interjection by federal officials.

 

[lons]

you live in your own world bro

No, I live in the real world. Not liberal lala land like yourself.

 

[lons]

The case isn't even done yet, they are investigating still and doing the grand jury thing in April. I agree due diligence was not done on the spot, but I think it is more out of circumstance and who Zimmerman is (son of a judge) and not out of racism. I've got no problem with outing racism, but that does not make every case where a black person is wronged race related.

My God, the world might just be ending. I'm agreeing with you.

 

[superpunk]

I think they did investigate. I think they went with the evidence. I think this entire thing is a farce to get black folks whipped up into a storm so they'll go out and vote for the black guy again to protect em from the evil whiteys.

Yeah Obama probably paid to have this black kid shot so he could get reelected. Makes sense.

 

[lons]

Obama as POTUS with all the issues he is facing, decided to make comment about this. He brought it to forefront instead of letting it go through a course of investigation and made this into a national case. The media has whipped up story after story, but little truth comes from it.

He's white... nope
He was the attacker.... nope
Ummm... he has a history of violence... meh

Nothing we've been told was true. Do you want to just lynch him now or wait til after the trial and he's found innocent of whatever trumped up charges?

 

[UVAwahoos]

The media has whipped up story after story, but little truth comes from it.

He's white... nope
He was the attacker.... nope
Ummm... he has a history of violence... meh

Nothing we've been told was true.

Hmm. If nothing we've been told is true, how'd you find these versions of the story that you outline? Did you hire a PI, or did you go to Florida and investigate it yourself?

 

[Midswat]

That's the main issue here. By all accounts, the child in our case was never breaking any laws in the first place,

Yeah... up until the part where he broke Zimmermans nose and started pouncing his head off the pavement.

Or wait... that's legal if you're being followed, amirite?

 

[lons]

Hmm. If nothing we've been told is true, how'd you find these versions of the story that you outline? Did you hire a PI, or did you go to Florida and investigate it yourself?

Nothing we were told at the beginning of last week has held up to vetting. Much like the wonderful 23 whoops 30 year old law student that just wanted free health care whoops wanted to make a national case that a Jesuit college that didn't want to provide them wasn't. Keep lapping it up though, maybe tomorrow they'll tell you eating razorblades will cure all your ills and we won't have to worry about the insanity that is jump to conclusion fucks like yourself again.