Todd Archer: Brian Billick's ego to big to allow him to coach for Jerry Jones

[dbair1967]

Yes. That makes sense.

Let me tell that to the rest of the NFL world.

Hey, the league has a secret conspiracy to keep the Cowboys down through officiating.

Laughably lame. A defense mechanism for fans who can't admit their team isn't good enough.

Oh, and how exactly is Fisher arrogant? Because this is the first I've ever heard someone say that. Is it because he just beat Dallas and you couldn't handle it?

Nobody can look at the way Cowboys games are officiated and say with a straight face that they are calling it the same for both teams. It isnt just this year, this goes back quite awhile. But its been taken to a new level in the 5 games this season.

Incompetence or just dumb luck cant explain all the garbage we've seen.

Its definitely one of two things:

Officials are either doing as they are told by the league office OR they are involved in alot of shady crap with Vegas. The latter is more likely, because the amount of money that is bet annually on Cowboy games dwarfs that of most other teams. The ability for these guys to make a large sum of money by affecting the outcomes shouldnt be ignored. If they were doing it in the NBA, I have little doubt they are doing it in the NFL.

Either way, its a black eye for the league, an utter disgrace and embarassment. Much like the Patriots/Belichick fiasco. The league will never allow the full truth to come out on either IMO.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Nobody can look at the way Cowboys games are officiated and say with a straight face that they are calling it the same for both teams. It isnt just this year, this goes back quite awhile. But its been taken to a new level in the 5 games this season.

Incompetence or just dumb luck cant explain all the garbage we've seen.

Its definitely one of two things:

Officials are either doing as they are told by the league office OR they are involved in alot of shady crap with Vegas. The latter is more likely, because the amount of money that is bet annually on Cowboy games dwarfs that of most other teams. The ability for these guys to make a large sum of money by affecting the outcomes shouldnt be ignored. If they were doing it in the NBA, I have little doubt they are doing it in the NFL.

Either way, its a black eye for the league, an utter disgrace and embarassment. Much like the Patriots/Belichick fiasco. The league will never allow the full truth to come out on either IMO.

I think it's more them sticking it to Jerry for his comment he made against Ed Hoculi two years back.

 

[Jon88]

I think it's more them sticking it to Jerry for his comment he made against Ed Hoculi two years back.

If someone can't see by now how the refs screw us over every game then I'll never be able to convince them.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

Jeff Fisher is another one that comes to mind if he's available next year.

He didn't resign his contract yet did he?

I used to be high on Fisher but his teams commit as many penalties as us. I'll pass.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

If someone can't see by now how the refs screw us over every game then I'll never be able to convince them.

You're preaching to the choir. If Jerry would have kept his mouth shut on Hoculi. You remember how Hoculi botched that call between the Broncos and Chargers in 2008? Welol Jerry called him out on it and made mention as to the number of bad calls Hoculi has made---which is true. Hoculi loves to ham for the cameras. He clearly likes showing off his muscles and is one of those refs that think he's bigger than the game, but every since then, the refs had it out for the Cowboys because of that.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Every team gets crap calls made against them. Refs are human.

The trouble is the Cowboys make it easier for them to perceive that a penalty has been committed even if there hasn't been, because of all the legitimate penalties they commit.

The fact is this team's lack of discipline and inattention to detail causes players like Jenkins, Ball and Witten to have to cheat in order to gain an advantage.

 

[sbk92]

Every team gets crap calls made against them. Refs are human.

The trouble is the Cowboys make it easier for them to perceive that a penalty has been committed even if there hasn't been, because of all the legitimate penalties they commit.

The fact is this team's lack of discipline and inattention to detail causes players like Jenkins, Ball and Witten to have to cheat in order to gain an advantage.

Winner.

 

[sbk92]

Either way, its a black eye for the league, an utter disgrace and embarassment. Much like the Patriots/Belichick fiasco. The league will never allow the full truth to come out on either IMO.

Wow.

So let me get this right.

If the Cowboys win, it's cause they're good and stuff. All kinds of OMG talent.

But if they lose, it's that damn secret conspiracy that only you know about.

Is that about the deal here?

Say it with me. The Cowboys aren't good enough.

Quit embarrassing yourself with asinine conspiracy theories. You only make the rest of the fan base look bad.

 

[Jon88]

You're preaching to the choir. If Jerry would have kept his mouth shut on Hoculi. You remember how Hoculi botched that call between the Broncos and Chargers in 2008? Welol Jerry called him out on it and made mention as to the number of bad calls Hoculi has made---which is true. Hoculi loves to ham for the cameras. He clearly likes showing off his muscles and is one of those refs that think he's bigger than the game, but every since then, the refs had it out for the Cowboys because of that.

No shit. He loves flexing his muscles for the camera. I don't remember what he did during the Broncos/Chargers game though.

 

[dbair1967]

Wow.

So let me get this right.

If the Cowboys win, it's cause they're good and stuff. All kinds of OMG talent.

But if they lose, it's that damn secret conspiracy that only you know about.

Is that about the deal here?

Say it with me. The Cowboys aren't good enough.

Quit embarrassing yourself with asinine conspiracy theories. You only make the rest of the fan base look bad.

Maybe if you'd learn to read the damn post and watch the games with open eyes you'd learn something.

And if you are naive enough to believe that all that was going on with Belichick and his Pats is the little bit of info they let slip out, I've got news for you. It wasnt.

 

[dbair1967]

I think it's more them sticking it to Jerry for his comment he made against Ed Hoculi two years back.

I honestly dont think thats it. I could see Hochuli himself sticking it to us, but not all the refs.

I really think its more along the lines of what happened in the NBA than anything else.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I honestly dont think thats it. I could see Hochuli himself sticking it to us, but not all the refs.

I really think its more along the lines of what happened in the NBA than anything else.

You attack one of them, these refs will circle the wagons and go after. So yes, I can see all of them.

 

[sbk92]

Maybe if you'd learn to read the damn post and watch the games with open eyes you'd learn something.

And if you are naive enough to believe that all that was going on with Belichick and his Pats is the little bit of info they let slip out, I've got news for you. It wasnt.

lol

You've got news for me, eh?

Okay. Fill me in on that news. Tell me how it all went down. I'm interested.

So, these games are fixed then? And always against the Cowboys?

 

[Cr122]

I guess I better start betting against the Cowboys then.

 

[dbair1967]

lol

You've got news for me, eh?

Okay. Fill me in on that news. Tell me how it all went down. I'm interested.

So, these games are fixed then? And always against the Cowboys?

Thats not what I said.

 

[sbk92]

Thats not what I said.

You said you have news for me. I'm all eyes. Tell me what's going on behind the scenes.

 

[dbair1967]

You said you have news for me. I'm all eyes. Tell me what's going on behind the scenes.

Like I said in the other post. Its 1 of 2 things dude.

You cant watch all these other games and see stuff that we get called routinely for, not called against the others and say "well we're just a dumb team"...or "well thats just a bad call"...or "thats just bad luck"

Not when it happens as much, and for as long as its happened for.

You can believe whatever you want, but I can almost guarantee you after Wade's shown the door, that we're probably going to see similar kinds of officiating with the new guy.

 

[sbk92]

Like I said in the other post. Its 1 of 2 things dude.

You cant watch all these other games and see stuff that we get called routinely for, not called against the others and say "well we're just a dumb team"...or "well thats just a bad call"...or "thats just bad luck"

Not when it happens as much, and for as long as its happened for.

You can believe whatever you want, but I can almost guarantee you after Wade's shown the door, that we're probably going to see similar kinds of officiating with the new guy.

Depends.

If Jerry Jones continues the environment where the head coach wields no authority, then yes. We'll continue to get these penalties.

But they aren't part of some evil plan by the officials. You're just a homer fan bitter that his team isn't good enough. So you lash out at the officials.

 

[dbair1967]

Depends.

If Jerry Jones continues the environment where the head coach wields no authority, then yes. We'll continue to get these penalties.

But they aren't part of some evil plan by the officials. You're just a homer fan bitter that his team isn't good enough. So you lash out at the officials.

I dont think the officialls necessarily have an "evil plan" but I do think their bank accounts are getting padded from sports books in Vegas. It isnt just our games, I'm sure they are impacting alot of games. But more money is bet annually on Cowboy regular season games than other teams, there's alot at stake there.

It was going on in the NBA, I have no doubt its going on in the NFL.

And NFL refs make a FRACTION of the salary NBA and MLB officials make. If you think that has no impact, keep practicing the "puff puff pass" philosophy that your utilizing so well in this forum.

 

[sbk92]

I dont think the officialls necessarily have an "evil plan" but I do think their bank accounts are getting padded from sports books in Vegas. It isnt just our games, I'm sure they are impacting alot of games. But more money is bet annually on Cowboy regular season games than other teams, there's alot at stake there.

It was going on in the NBA, I have no doubt its going on in the NFL.

And NFL refs make a FRACTION of the salary NBA and MLB officials make. If you think that has no impact, keep practicing the "puff puff pass" philosophy that your utilizing so well in this forum.

Ah. So it's a fixed thing.

Officials are purposely making the Cowboys lose because of sports betting.

I feel like I'm talking with a three year old.