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I would be a sh1t ton more supportive of abortion if adoption was presented as a legitimate option. Instead planned parenthood prides itself on being an abortion factory and considers the adoption option an insult to even offer, better to just murder the baby.
 

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I would be a sh1t ton more supportive of abortion if adoption was presented as a legitimate option. Instead planned parenthood prides itself on being an abortion factory and considers the adoption option an insult to even offer, better to just murder the baby.

What's weird is it seems like you completely made all of that up. Actually it's not weird I'm sure that's the last thing you heard Rush say about Planned Parenthood.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/pregnancy/adoption-21520.htm

But I'm sure you've been to an assload of planned parenthood offices and heard them telling girls who wanted to give their baby up for adoption to just have that little shit aborted instead.
 

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I don't have an extreme view on abortion, only that I'd like to not see tax dollars wasted on it.

If abortion is used in the case of rape or someone's best interest regarding health, then that's fine. But it should still should be paid for by the party having the procedure.
 

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I don't have an extreme view on abortion, only that I'd like to not see tax dollars wasted on it.

If abortion is used in the case of rape or someone's best interest regarding health, then that's fine. But it should still should be paid for by the party having the procedure.

If they can't pay for the abortion do you think they will be able to afford to pay for that kid for the rest of it's life? Where would you rather the American Taxpayer's wallet be hit?
 

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If they can't pay for the abortion do you think they will be able to afford to pay for that kid for the rest of it's life? Where would you rather the American Taxpayer's wallet be hit?

They can't pay for it? Or they won't pay for it?

Get a fucking job at 7-11 for a few weeks and pay for it yourself.
 

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I'm not going to get into an argument with you because you'd rather get into a discussion on the logistics of whether or not a teenager could get a minimum wage job for a month to pay for her abortion than answer a hypothetical about which costs more - planned parenthood or welfare.

The facts are on my side, and until you figure out a way to stop stupid and poor people from having sex the cheaper option for the American taxpayer will always be planned parenthood. Your option is a fairyland fantasy.
 
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What would you rather pay for - birth control programs or 18 years of welfare? Poor people aren't going to stop having sex - and they reproduce faster than wealthier, more intelligent citizens because they are uneducated.

Protip - states with the lowest funding for planned parenthood, sex education and the like also have the highest rates of teen pregnancy, and are the most welfare dependent states in the nation. You want to save money? Empower women with easier access to planned parenthood, birth control, and fund the shit out of sex education.

Birth control is way cheaper than 18+ years of government assistance. I know which one I'd choose. Saying you want to get rid of both is just tilting at windmills. You're not going to stop these people from having sex. You need to educate them about it and make it possible for them to avoid conceiving when they are not capable of providing for a child.

The fact that you're arguing a life should be ended because it's cheaper just shows you how clueless and out of touch you and your party are on this issue.

Liberals will fight tooth and nail for the right to have gays marry, no prayer in public places, keeping violent murderers alive, giving cell phones to the lazy, etc.

But the most innocent and helpless form of human life? Fuck that, those poor girls' vaginas shouldn't be all disfigured... give em a coat hanger.
 

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But he won't argue cuz it's either pay for irresponsibility, or pay for irresponsibility.
 

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What's weird is it seems like you completely made all of that up. Actually it's not weird I'm sure that's the last thing you heard Rush say about Planned Parenthood.

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/health-topics/pregnancy/adoption-21520.htm

But I'm sure you've been to an assload of planned parenthood offices and heard them telling girls who wanted to give their baby up for adoption to just have that little shit aborted instead.

Whatever, all I know is a state tried to make it illegal to give an abortion to a minor under 18 if the Doctor didnt offer education of adoption. Planned parenthood spent millions to get it declared unconstitutional. Said giving options resrticted womens right to abortion. Basically I have thought they should probably be closed and shot in the face ever since.

That and performing surgeries on minors while making it illegal to inform parents is damn near evil (not to mention the murder of children out of laziness)
 

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The fact that you're arguing a life should be ended because it's cheaper just shows you how clueless and out of touch you and your party are on this issue.

Liberals will fight tooth and nail for the right to have gays marry, no prayer in public places, keeping violent murderers alive, giving cell phones to the lazy, etc.

But the most innocent and helpless form of human life? Fuck that, those poor girls' vaginas shouldn't be all disfigured... give em a coat hanger.
Not everyone believes in the archaic life begins at conception our every sperm is sacred doctrine. Until you figure out how to keep zygotes alive outside the womb or want to get everyone to stop masturbating your party should stop trying to force women to be incubators because you want to keep a few cells alive.
 

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Whatever, all I know is a state tried to make it illegal to give an abortion to a minor under 18 if the Doctor didnt offer education of adoption. Planned parenthood spent millions to get it declared unconstitutional. Said giving options resrticted womens right to abortion. Basically I have thought they should probably be closed and shot in the face ever since.

That and performing surgeries on minors while making it illegal to inform parents is damn near evil (not to mention the murder of children out of laziness)
Try doing a little research before spouting off next time so i don't have to keep doing this to you. ;)
 

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I personally disagree with abortionbut i can do that while at the same time understanding the other side and not trying to legislate peoples bodies with emotional appeals about helpless human lives. Get a haircut hippy.
 
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Even if you never jacked it your body would nocturnally omit itself after a while. So you righties need to give up on the morning after pill

And you lefties need to give us the wood off your cross. Making a girl aware of all their options and what their kid looks like isn't torturous.

How am I going to Adapt a faggy rivalry by being correct all the time?
 
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Not everyone believes in the archaic life begins at conception our every sperm is sacred doctrine. Until you figure out how to keep zygotes alive outside the womb or want to get everyone to stop masturbating your party should stop trying to force women to be incubators because you want to keep a few cells alive.

I would wager most intelligent people without an agenda would agree that life begins at conception. I have yet to hear any other convincing argument that life begins at any other time. Does something magical happen to a fetus when it goes through the birth canal?
 

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