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it'd be Civil War II

No it wouldn't. We'd go back to work tomorrow because people depend on us.

Truth is, I don't know what to believe. I think the voter enthusiasm is there for Trump but I just can't be confident knowing there will be shennanigans. In a normal world, this would be a Carter/Reagan landslide. But in todday's world, we can't be sure.

And it wouldn't surprise me if the Dems claim their voters came out big on election day. Everything is backwards in our Third Wrorld elections.
 

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No it wouldn't. We'd go back to work tomorrow because people depend on us.
I dunno Amigo. There comes a point when people snap and say "enough is enough"

I do think for the most part people are too apathetic towards this and what is happening, and what they (The left and WEF) are ultimately planning to do. These are not the Dems/moderates of the 50's, 60's, 70's and even 80's. These are sick, evil, demented people who have the belief that they must have absolute control.

Maybe the final straw is when the left comes not only for the free speech and guns, but also for people's retirement/savings (which WILL happen)
 

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hot damn, these people have no business in any part of our government.

I wish this country would make us proud and give the Dems a massive rebuke by giving Trump a win in a landslide including the popular vote (I'm dreaming, I know)

I fear the chaos that would ensue if this thing comes down to a tiny margin
 

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This piece of shit GA Secretary of State belongs IN PRISON.

Completely bought and paid for by China and WEF

Lying sack of Communist shit.

 

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I dunno Amigo. There comes a point when people snap and say "enough is enough"

I do think for the most part people are too apathetic towards this and what is happening, and what they (The left and WEF) are ultimately planning to do. These are not the Dems/moderates of the 50's, 60's, 70's and even 80's. These are sick, evil, demented people who have the belief that they must have absolute control.

Maybe the final straw is when the left comes not only for the free speech and guns, but also for people's retirement/savings (which WILL happen)

Agree with everything yousaid Amigo. But these issues have to raised by the states and they should be leading the charge. But they're not and they didn't in 2020 or 2022. Nor did all the states fix the issues to any real satisfactory degree.

We're all going to wake up tomorrow and the next day and go to work. It's not something that any of us can change.

But at least some eyes have been opened wider. And I'll say this. I've been around a long time and the narrative always changes. Years ago it was "if a conservative can get 13% of the black vote, he/she will win." Well, Trump and coservatives have shattered those numbers; he's gained ground with Latinos and Jews. He's gained ground in almost every demographic I can think of and now the election hinges on white suburban females. It's maddenng. It's alost like you fix a shortcomming and then it's another narrative and obstacle to obercome.

And in PA they've registered 92,000 Amish which is a good chunk of voters. It's a true coalition Trump has built and if he can't win this year, no future Republic that I'm aware of can do what he's done and have the appeal that he has for the aveerage man/woman. We'll officially be a uniparty country.
 

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I have to talk about my voting experience today. I voted for low inflation, free speech, my right to own and carry a weapon, jobs, America first and a secure border. In other words I voted for Trump.

I live in a relatively small suburban town in NJ that has been historically Republican. We elected a Republican mayor and council last year rejecting a woke pride loving Democrat running against him. BTW, he is an Asian American and a good conservative.

Two years ago, the county, which used to be Republican but is now deep blue replaced our old voting machines with these new things where you have to use a touch screen to vote, then print your ballot then take it to a scanner. After you check in of course. But the check in does not include an ID. They ask you questions like your address, middle initial, and name. Then you sign on a screen, then on a piece of paper. They do not compare signatures. Although they have them on file.

I have been voting since the 1970s and never in my life for any election have I ever had to wait for more than a couple of people to vote before I could enter the booth and vote myself. The new process, which they claim is more secure, takes much longer for each person to vote. We used to have 3 voting machines. Now we have a dozen and the lines were still out the door. It took me 30 minutes from the time I got on line to the time I exited the building. This is progress? I am retired, but I imagine people who have to work will consider skipping the long lines to get to work on time, or if they vote on their way home they will skip voting to go home and have dinner and chill out after a long day working.

I get the old machines were breaking down and not supported so they needed a new process. But this process is too complicated with too many steps. The more steps the more points of failure. And I am not sure it is any more secure than the old process. In both cases we have to rely on the machines to tally the votes correctly. The old machines were not connected to the internet so I believe they were more secure.

In any case, with all this nonsense to vote now, why is providing a voter ID a step too far? It is all such nonsense.

BTW, thanks to our mandatory affordable housing requirements in NJ my once conservative town is looking more and more woke liberal all the time. But this is how Democrats turn red states blue.
 

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I followed her campaign in 2020 against Katie Hobbs who wouldn't debate, answer questions, avoided press and thought for sure Kari would win but nah...

I don't trust what the hell is going on out there and I'm not sure what caused it. If it was fraud and cheating, that can be fixed. If its ignorance born from propaganda, then the country is screwed because you cant fix stupid which seems to be spreading like wildfire these days. Just look at the explanations people give for supporting Harris in the video below, the propaganda and lies work:



It will be interesting to see how things shake out, I'm very concerned
 
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