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Just think about this part of the article I posted and let it sink in.......

"We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes."

Biden won a record low number of counties and 349 less than Obama but somehow people are supposed to believe he received 10 million more votes than Obama. Folks, people stuffed the ballot box and and they had to stuff it heavy when Trump was running away with the election. And they got careless. This whole election was a fraud.
 

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Now all they have to do is prove it

In time

I wonder how many ppl will end up Jeffrey Epstiened over this
 

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This is a great synopsis for those that that think Trump supporters are delusional. A lot of questions are floating around out there. One of my favorites and totally unexplainable.....

"We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes."

Reasons why the 2020 presidential election is deeply puzzling


To say out-loud that you find the results of the 2020 presidential election odd is to invite derision. You must be a crank or a conspiracy theorist. Mark me down as a crank, then. I am a pollster and I find this election to be deeply puzzling. I also think that the Trump campaign is still well within its rights to contest the tabulations. Something very strange happened in America’s democracy in the early hours of Wednesday November 4 and the days that followed. It’s reasonable for a lot of Americans to want to find out exactly what.

First, consider some facts. President Trump received more votes than any previous incumbent seeking reelection. He got 11 million more votes than in 2016, the third largest rise in support ever for an incumbent. By way of comparison, President Obama was comfortably reelected in 2012 with 3.5 million fewer votes than he received in 2008.

Trump’s vote increased so much because, according to exit polls, he performed far better with many key demographic groups. Ninety-five percent of Republicans voted for him. He did extraordinarily well with rural male working-class whites.

He earned the highest share of all minority votes for a Republican since 1960. Trump grew his support among black voters by 50 percent over 2016. Nationally, Joe Biden’s black support fell well below 90 percent, the level below which Democratic presidential candidates usually lose.

Trump increased his share of the national Hispanic vote to 35 percent. With 60 percent or less of the national Hispanic vote, it is arithmetically impossible for a Democratic presidential candidate to win Florida, Arizona, Nevada, and New Mexico. Bellwether states swung further in Trump’s direction than in 2016. Florida, Ohio and Iowa each defied America’s media polls with huge wins for Trump. Since 1852, only Richard Nixon has lost the Electoral College after winning this trio, and that 1960 defeat to John F. Kennedy is still the subject of great suspicion.

Midwestern states Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin always swing in the same direction as Ohio and Iowa, their regional peers. Ohio likewise swings with Florida. Current tallies show that, outside of a few cities, the Rust Belt swung in Trump’s direction. Yet, Biden leads in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin because of an apparent avalanche of black votes in Detroit, Philadelphia, and Milwaukee. Biden’s ‘winning’ margin was derived almost entirely from such voters in these cities, as coincidentally his black vote spiked only in exactly the locations necessary to secure victory. He did not receive comparable levels of support among comparable demographic groups in comparable states, which is highly unusual for the presidential victor.

We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes.


Victorious presidential candidates, especially challengers, usually have down-ballot coattails; Biden did not. The Republicans held the Senate and enjoyed a ‘red wave’ in the House, where they gained a large number of seats while winning all 27 toss-up contests. Trump’s party did not lose a single state legislature and actually made gains at the state level.

Another anomaly is found in the comparison between the polls and non-polling metrics. The latter include: party registrations trends; the candidates’ respective primary votes; candidate enthusiasm; social media followings; broadcast and digital media ratings; online searches; the number of (especially small) donors; and the number of individuals betting on each candidate.

Despite poor recent performances, media and academic polls have an impressive 80 percent record predicting the winner during the modern era. But, when the polls err, non-polling metrics do not; the latter have a 100 percent record. Every non-polling metric forecast Trump’s reelection. For Trump to lose this election, the mainstream polls needed to be correct, which they were not. Furthermore, for Trump to lose, not only did one or more of these metrics have to be wrong for the first time ever, but every single one had to be wrong, and at the very same time; not an impossible outcome, but extremely unlikely nonetheless.

Atypical voting patterns married with misses by polling and non-polling metrics should give observers pause for thought. Adding to the mystery is a cascade of information about the bizarre manner in which so many ballots were accumulated and counted.

The following peculiarities also lack compelling explanations:

1. Late on election night, with Trump comfortably ahead, many swing states stopped counting ballots. In most cases, observers were removed from the counting facilities. Counting generally continued without the observers

2. Statistically abnormal vote counts were the new normal when counting resumed. They were unusually large in size (hundreds of thousands) and had an unusually high (90 percent and above) Biden-to-Trump ratio

3. Late arriving ballots were counted. In Pennsylvania, 23,000 absentee ballots have impossible postal return dates and another 86,000 have such extraordinary return dates they raise serious questions

4. The failure to match signatures on mail-in ballots. The destruction of mail-in ballot envelopes, which must contain signatures

5. Historically low absentee ballot rejection rates despite the massive expansion of mail voting. Such is Biden’s narrow margin that, as political analyst Robert Barnes observes, ‘If the states simply imposed the same absentee ballot rejection rate as recent cycles, then Trump wins the election’

6. Missing votes. In Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 50,000 votes held on 47 USB cards are missing

7. Non-resident voters. Matt Braynard’s Voter Integrity Project estimates that 20,312 people who no longer met residency requirements cast ballots in Georgia. Biden’s margin is 12,670 votes

8. Serious ‘chain of custody’ breakdowns. Invalid residential addresses. Record numbers of dead people voting. Ballots in pristine condition without creases, that is, they had not been mailed in envelopes as required by law

9. Statistical anomalies. In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89 percent of the votes counted. For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch. It is particularly perplexing that all statistical anomalies and tabulation abnormalities were in Biden’s favor. Whether the cause was simple human error or nefarious activity, or a combination, clearly something peculiar happened.

If you think that only weirdos have legitimate concerns about these findings and claims, maybe the weirdness lies in you.

That is a great article Dodger

Thx for posting it
 

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Now all they have to do is prove it

In time

I wonder how many ppl will end up Jeffrey Epstiened over this

I both agree and disagree with this. The administration may have to prove it to remain in office but that's really secondary to me. Folks are going to have to prove to me that the election wasn't rigged because I'm not blind and dumb. The left may label me as such but I think they're brain dead. People have some explaining to do. Just certifying an election with so many red flags won't cut it.
 

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hopefully ban the use of the dominion voting machines in the future. And that’s a good thing
It wont do anything, if they get rid of this Dominion, they'll replace it with the next Dominion
 

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I both agree and disagree with this. The administration may have to prove it to remain in office but that's really secondary to me. Folks are going to have to prove to me that the election wasn't rigged because I'm not blind and dumb. The left may label me as such but I think they're brain dead. People have some explaining to do. Just certifying an election with so many red flags won't cut it.

The sad thing though Dodger is this is going to be the norm now. I doubt we'll see another legitimate election in our lifetime.

That's why so much is riding on this now. If they are allowed to get away with it today, we're 100% fucked going forward.
 

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Just think about this part of the article I posted and let it sink in.......

"We are told that Biden won more votes nationally than any presidential candidate in history. But he won a record low of 17 percent of counties; he only won 524 counties, as opposed to the 873 counties Obama won in 2008. Yet, Biden somehow outdid Obama in total votes."

Biden won a record low number of counties and 349 less than Obama but somehow people are supposed to believe he received 10 million more votes than Obama. Folks, people stuffed the ballot box and and they had to stuff it heavy when Trump was running away with the election. And they got careless. This whole election was a fraud.

And yet the MSM says this is a 100% legit election and that any claims of voter fraud are baseless and just conspiracy theory.
 

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And yet the MSM says this is a 100% legit election and that any claims of voter fraud are baseless and just conspiracy theory.
The mainstream media is now solely a propaganda arm for the left. They only push whatever narrative they are told to push to create an alternate reality for anyone caught up in the HUGE echo chamber they have created. Their brain-dead followers believe anything they are told to believe. They have basically recreated the Joseph Goebbels effect of the Nazi party just before and during WWII.
 

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The sad thing though Dodger is this is going to be the norm now. I doubt we'll see another legitimate election in our lifetime.

That's why so much is riding on this now. If they are allowed to get away with it today, we're 100% fucked going forward.

It's up to the Republican legislatures to ensure the integrity of the elections in their states. They need to act and they're cutting their own throats by not acting. No one said politicians were smart. On the contrary, they're pretty fucking stupid....obviously.
 

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And yet the MSM says this is a 100% legit election and that any claims of voter fraud are baseless and just conspiracy theory.

Propaganda on the level of what Pravda used to be in the old Soviet Union. But these folks are elitists and they're all big money reporters who get paid millions for their compliance. They want to keep their jobs and not rock the boat. Not only does better than half our country know it's fraud, so does most of the free world.
 

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And here's what I believe will happen sooner or later. These policies and attacks on half the country will lead good men to go "bad." Someone is not going to take kindly to a cop knocking on their front door inquiring about how many people are in their house. I saw where a father was recently arrested somewhere (I don't recall where) because his child was not wearing a mask. As these incidents continue to grow, good men will go bad. It's inevitable.
 

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Propaganda on the level of what Pravda used to be in the old Soviet Union. But these folks are elitists and they're all big money reporters who get paid millions for their compliance. They want to keep their jobs and not rock the boat. Not only does better than half our country know it's fraud, so does most of the free world.

I disagree that half our country knows that the election was a fraud.

Not all Trump supporters watch Newsmax or Fox. A good portion still watch mainstream media. So they are still being spoon fed that Trump is a sore loser and that the election was the most secure in history. A large portion of Trump followers were and probably still watch Fox. Even Fox is sounding like MSNBC nowadays.

The mainstream media juggernaut is mighty and all powerful and has been extremely efficient at getting out their narrative. I would guess 30% or less of Trump followers have their eyes wide open and see what is going on here
 

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Out of 20 conservative ppl I communicate with regularly I would say only 3 maybe 4 are paying attention to what’s going on and actually following the election fraud coverage. The rest seem to have election fatigue and have pretty much given up the idea that the election was stolen. Or they have the stance of I hope something changes, but I don’t see it happening so I’m going to go on with business as usual and with Biden as the president elect unless/until something major changes.

Only 2 other conservatives I know have Newsmax. Here in LA it’s part of a package you have to pay for or you have to pay for it separately. Most ppl don’t even know it exists. So when I talk to them they have no clue what is going on with the election and have already moved on with their lives.
 

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Not all Trump supporters watch Newsmax or Fox.

I hear you Scott but why do you assume that Trump voters only get their news and opinions from Newsmax or Fox? You live in CA and maybe you don't see it. But I don't think I've talked to one known Republican who doesn't believe there was wide spread fraud based on what they saw election night, voting irregularities and the obvious questions. The question is not whether or not there was fraud, but what the remedy is, if any.
 

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That’s what I’m saying

Not every Republican gets their news from newsmax of Fox. A large portion get their news from the left wing juggernaut and therefore don’t hear the details on all the fraud. All they hear is how crazy Trumps allegations are and how baseless his claims are.

Almost all of them believe there was voter fraud, but most of them don’t believe/understand the extent of it. As such, they have accepted the election results with the understanding that there may have been voter fraud, but not enough to change the election results. If all they hear is CNN/MSNBC’s version of the news then they really have no idea what is going on.
 

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About 99% of everyone I know is conservative. There is not a single person I know who trust the mainstream media. Everyone I know gets there news from conservative sources. Everyone I know also has come to realize that Fox news can no longer be trusted as a news source. Of course I live in Texas. It may be different in other places.
 

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The question is not whether or not there was fraud, but what the remedy is, if any.
Hence the disappointment and frustration from most. We were promised kraken. Got only farts so far and the clock keeps ticking.
 

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Hence the disappointment and frustration from most. We were promised kraken. Got only farts so far and the clock keeps ticking.

You're not looking or listening to any of the hearings. I have been for the last couple of days and today Michigan is holding hearings on election fraud. The witnesses, who are many, report things that are utterly shocking. Including dropping off a van full of ballots past the deadline at 3 or 4 AM. These are eyewitness accounts. It's utterly shocking.
 

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AG Barr to the associated press

DOJ has no evidence of fraud that would change the outcome of the election
 
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