The Disease of Leftism

[dbair1967]

The Brian Thompson thing is looking like something more and more ominous every minute to me.

First and foremost, Thompson is a smart, extremely wealthy man. Why would someone of his importance and financial means not have his own personal security (whether he funded it or got UHC to pay for it). Lots of people at his level and with highly visible mega companies have security details.

Second, why would said person then be walking around by himself in the dark on the streets of one of the most dangerous, crime ridden cities in the world?

Then there's the wife's somewhat puzzling comments yesterday, not even hours after this devastating tragedy she's out there with public comments and even throws out a strangely worded motive?

Now we have bullets with words on them tied to a book about insurance companies fucking people over, only it's not the exact title (one word is different)

Now also today, they are posting pics for all to see with a maskless guy that they claim is the murderer. In one of the pics he doesn't have a backpack (very distinguishable type in the video of the murder) and in another, he looks like he is in the same place as the pic without the backpack, but has a DIFFERENT backpack on from the video of the murder.

Somebody had this man killed, and I'd bet a large % of belongings I have that it wasn't some disgruntled/jilted UHC member.

 

[VTA]

Then there's the wife's somewhat puzzling comments yesterday, not even hours after this devastating tragedy she's out there with public comments and even throws out a strangely worded motive?

What has she said? I saw that she'd said he had received death threats. Is there something else I've missed?

 

[dbair1967]

What has she said? I saw that she'd said he had received death threats. Is there something else I've missed?

Yeah, her exact wording on it was kinda weird...it was like "well I know he had received some death threats or something"

Just odd that she put that out there so fast (or even commented at all, unless she was actually there in NY with her husband and the press saw her)

Just makes it even more strange if he had truly been getting death threats. Again the guy is worth millions and millions and UHC has more money than they know what to do with, how he could be walking around the streets on NY by himself in the dark is puzzling to say the least.

 

[dbair1967]

 

[yimyammer]

If there's one thing we've all learned these past few years, it's that TDS is real. That people have truly become brainwashed and they lack the capacity to do any minimal research and listened to both sides. And they even have the benefit of Trump having served 4 years as President from which to draw some conclusions. But they simply can't.

I worked in NY for 7 years in the 90's. Trump was the toast of the town and a NY treasure. He rebuilt the NY skyline and he was iconic long before his show. Did his casino go under? Sure. So did many others and business people fail all the time. They take risks where others won't take the chance that they might fail.

I have a pretty simple philosophy on some things. I look at people's kids to get an indication of the man/woman that parented them. Look at the Trump kids and grandkids. Then go look at the Bide/Harris kids and stepkids. That's really all I need to know about which family I'd trust.

In any event, I've pretty much distanced myself from these loons. Not because of their political position, but because they're so devoid of any reasoning that I can't trust that we'll have a normal relationship and I can trust them as a friend. And breaking ties is really not that hard.

Its so maddening and drives me nuts.

I'm fine with letting evidence, logic and facts take me wherever they should. I find truth freeing but it seems too many folks fear it (no Dooms, I'm not talking about relative personal "truth" as some idiots have hijacked and redefined)

Its like a puzzle I want to solve so I cant resist talking listening to them because I find it fascinating how they can be so certain and so ignorant all at the same time, its really quite a site to behold

 

[cml750]

 

[yimyammer]

I mean....your friend draws the line at a rapist because he's got 2 daughters. Who did he rape and when was he charged? I always thought people like Trump have to game the system and throw out bribes to accomplish what they did in the NY real estate/construction industry but the best the left could do is change the laws to target the man. It was a complete farce and the fact that a "friend" can't see through the obvious targeting just tells me all I need to know.

so many things should cause rational humans to bring at least some level of doubt to this case

first of all, the incident occurred in either 1995 or 1996 (E Jean cant remember -- per Wikipedia)

Trump has been in the public eye for decades and was likely well known in 1995 or 1996, which begs the following questions:

• Why wasn't a case filed near the time of the incedent?
• Why wasn't it brought during the run up to the 2016 election?
• Why did it take until 2019 to file a defamation suit?
• Why did they wait until late 2023 to bring a second case conveniently near or after he declared he was running for president on 11/15/22?
• Why did did Democratic donor Reid Hoffman take special interest in this case and fund it via a nonprofit he donates to?

Further, "Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming Carroll, and ordered him to pay US$5 million in damages. Regarding the accusation of rape, the judge gave to the jury "the narrow, technical meaning of that term" under New York law as it existed at that time, which defined rape as forcible penetration with the penis, as Carroll had specifically alleged. The jury rejected her rape claim, but found Trump liable for a lesser degree of sexual abuse than rape".

So he wasnt convicted or rape or held liable for rape. He was held liable of sexual assault in a civil trial with a lower threshold for guilt.

I'm fine with the outcome if he's guilty but given the above, her crazy behavior and apparent history of accusing other men gives me doubt I consider reasonable.

So many people come out of the woodwork with accusations when people run for office, it causes me to throw up my hands in confusion not knowing who to believe. Additionally, I have been involved with 2 issues where I was trying to do something that required public support and input and in both instances, individuals got up and spoke before everyone and told straight up lies with a tone of absolute certainty. I was able to speak to both afterwards and ask them how on earth they came to their conclusions and they both said they didnt remember but that's what they heard.

WHAT THE F!?!?!

If people will do that to a nobody like me, can you imagine the volume of lies that Trump gets pummeled with?

 

[yimyammer]

Now he is Hitler.

that allowed his daughter to marry a jew

 

[yimyammer]

I find abortion abhorrent but if a woman is raped, its also abhorrent to have and potentially raise the child of your rapist. Its a shit sandwich from hell and I'm comfortable with them making either decision and they can sort it out with their maker. However, if the decision is abortion, hopefully it can be done the day after or extremely quick because in that instance a woman knows they were raped so it can be addressed instantly .

 

[yimyammer]

 

[dbair1967]

so many things should cause rational humans to bring at least some level of doubt to this case

first of all, the incident occurred in either 1995 or 1996 (E Jean cant remember -- per Wikipedia)

Trump has been in the public eye for decades and was likely well known in 1995 or 1996, which begs the following questions:

• Why wasn't a case filed near the time of the incedent?
• Why wasn't it brought during the run up to the 2016 election?
• Why did it take until 2019 to file a defamation suit?
• Why did they wait until late 2023 to bring a second case conveniently near or after he declared he was running for president on 11/15/22?
• Why did did Democratic donor Reid Hoffman take special interest in this case and fund it via a nonprofit he donates to?

Further, "Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming Carroll, and ordered him to pay US$5 million in damages. Regarding the accusation of rape, the judge gave to the jury "the narrow, technical meaning of that term" under New York law as it existed at that time, which defined rape as forcible penetration with the penis, as Carroll had specifically alleged. The jury rejected her rape claim, but found Trump liable for a lesser degree of sexual abuse than rape".

So he wasnt convicted or rape or held liable for rape. He was held liable of sexual assault in a civil trial with a lower threshold for guilt.

I'm fine with the outcome if he's guilty but given the above, her crazy behavior and apparent history of accusing other men gives me doubt I consider reasonable.

So many people come out of the woodwork with accusations when people run for office, it causes me to throw up my hands in confusion not knowing who to believe. Additionally, I have been involved with 2 issues where I was trying to do something that required public support and input and in both instances, individuals got up and spoke before everyone and told straight up lies with a tone of absolute certainty. I was able to speak to both afterwards and ask them how on earth they came to their conclusions and they both said they didnt remember but that's what they heard.

WHAT THE F!?!?!

If people will do that to a nobody like me, can you imagine the volume of lies that Trump gets pummeled with?

Is this the case where her story mimics that TV show she admitted she watches all the time? Or is that a different TDS fraudster?

Also, pretty sure when she gave her "story" that the outfit she claimed she was wearing, the designer commented on later and said it had not even been "made" until several years later.

 

[dbair1967]

I find abortion abhorrent but if a woman is raped, its also abhorrent to have and potentially raise the child of your rapist. Its a shit sandwich from hell and I'm comfortable with them making either decision and they can sort it out with their maker. However, if the decision is abortion, hopefully it can be done the day after or extremely quick because in that instance a woman knows they were raped so it can be addressed instantly .

Yep

And make no bones about it, that type of "abortion" is not what these freaks are fighting for. They WANT late term abortion, and many want it up to the actual time of birth. Those people are the slime of humanity.

 

[dbair1967]

This case reeks.

This CEO was intentionally murdered and it almost assuredly had nothing to do with a "disgruntled policy holder"

 

[dbair1967]

Like I noted yesterday, look at the color of the backpack the guy has on during the shooting video, and compare it to the still picture at the 18 second mark of that video. There's also another picture they are circulating where it appears the guy is in the same place, but doesn't have a backpack at all.

They've also changed the original story they had, where witnesses said "the killer arrived a little before Thompson and waited on him" to "the killer was in place for hours"

 

[Creeper]

The Brian Thompson thing is looking like something more and more ominous every minute to me.

First and foremost, Thompson is a smart, extremely wealthy man. Why would someone of his importance and financial means not have his own personal security (whether he funded it or got UHC to pay for it). Lots of people at his level and with highly visible mega companies have security details.

Second, why would said person then be walking around by himself in the dark on the streets of one of the most dangerous, crime ridden cities in the world?

Then there's the wife's somewhat puzzling comments yesterday, not even hours after this devastating tragedy she's out there with public comments and even throws out a strangely worded motive?

Now we have bullets with words on them tied to a book about insurance companies fucking people over, only it's not the exact title (one word is different)

Now also today, they are posting pics for all to see with a maskless guy that they claim is the murderer. In one of the pics he doesn't have a backpack (very distinguishable type in the video of the murder) and in another, he looks like he is in the same place as the pic without the backpack, but has a DIFFERENT backpack on from the video of the murder.

Somebody had this man killed, and I'd bet a large % of belongings I have that it wasn't some disgruntled/jilted UHC member.

My understanding is that person in the picture is not a suspect yet, but a person of interest. In my opinion, the police are doing a good job on this. They have this picture of a guy who looks like the killer, is dressed like the killer, and was in the same Starbucks as the killer around the same time as the killer. He might just be some innocent guy in the wrong place at the wrong time, or maybe he was working with the shooter and deliberately dressed as he did and went to the same stores to confuse the police. I understand why the cops are interested in talking to him.

At this point they have the killers fingerprints, and DNA from items he touched. The problem for crooks in NYC is the place is covered with cameras. Maybe the killer knows this too and used other people to dress like him and walk around the same area deliberately.

 

[Creeper]

Is this the case where her story mimics that TV show she admitted she watches all the time? Or is that a different TDS fraudster?

Also, pretty sure when she gave her "story" that the outfit she claimed she was wearing, the designer commented on later and said it had not even been "made" until several years later.

I would also point out the E Jean Carroll accused 6 other men of raping her over the years, including Les Moonves, the ex-CEO of CBS. Does anyone believe Carroll was rape 7 times and not one of her rapists was caught or convicted?

 

[Doomsday]

Its so maddening and drives me nuts.

I'm fine with letting evidence, logic and facts take me wherever they should. I find truth freeing but it seems too many folks fear it (no Dooms, I'm not talking about relative personal "truth" as some idiots have hijacked and redefined)

Its like a puzzle I want to solve so I cant resist talking listening to them because I find it fascinating how they can be so certain and so ignorant all at the same time, its really quite a site to behold

It's exactly like the growing masses of the flat earthers and moon landing deniers. These people are simply paranoid and deranged.

 

[Doomsday]

This case reeks.

This CEO was intentionally murdered and it almost assuredly had nothing to do with a "disgruntled policy holder"

It's a hit.

 

[dbair1967]

My understanding is that person in the picture is not a suspect yet, but a person of interest. In my opinion, the police are doing a good job on this. They have this picture of a guy who looks like the killer, is dressed like the killer, and was in the same Starbucks as the killer around the same time as the killer. He might just be some innocent guy in the wrong place at the wrong time, or maybe he was working with the shooter and deliberately dressed as he did and went to the same stores to confuse the police. I understand why the cops are interested in talking to him.

At this point they have the killers fingerprints, and DNA from items he touched. The problem for crooks in NYC is the place is covered with cameras. Maybe the killer knows this too and used other people to dress like him and walk around the same area deliberately.

Like I said, color me skeptical.

 

[touchdown]

My understanding is that person in the picture is not a suspect yet, but a person of interest. In my opinion, the police are doing a good job on this. They have this picture of a guy who looks like the killer, is dressed like the killer, and was in the same Starbucks as the killer around the same time as the killer. He might just be some innocent guy in the wrong place at the wrong time, or maybe he was working with the shooter and deliberately dressed as he did and went to the same stores to confuse the police. I understand why the cops are interested in talking to him.

At this point they have the killers fingerprints, and DNA from items he touched. The problem for crooks in NYC is the place is covered with cameras. Maybe the killer knows this too and used other people to dress like him and walk around the same area deliberately.

Or maybe the killer cased the area enough to see a guy on various days, and so decided to dress like that guy, to throw the investigation off...???

Bty, in past investor meetings in NYC, does the CEO typically stay in the hotel where the meeting is taking place, or, as in this case, stay in hotel across the street from the hotel where the investor meeting is taking place???