Sources: Optimism waning as labor talks trend backwards

[sbk92]

Personally, I think the lockout ends this week.

 

[VA Cowboy]

So far there hasn't been much incentive to get a deal done since the season is still about 2 months away and training camps still a 2-3 weeks from starting. Like most things, it'll probably drag on til time becomes critical and camps and/or games are in jeopardy of being missed.
I wouldn't be too surprised to see the beginning of camps and a couple or so preseason games get missed. I definitely think there'll be a season. I suppose it's possible even some regular season games could be missed, but I think as we get closer and that becomes a real possibility both sides will suddenly come to an agreement.

 

[sbk92]

Training camp won't start on time unless they get a deal done this week.

This is nut cracking time.

 

[VA Cowboy]

I think both sides would be willing to forego part of camp. A week or two of camp plus 4-5 preseason games is too much anyways. For the season to start on time they could likely get by with a week of camp and two preseason games. That'd give them 3 full weeks of practice with a couple of tuneups, which means the drop dead date would be a week or two into August. In that case they still have a little over a month before they have to get serious.

 

[Theebs]

I think both sides would be willing to forego part of camp. A week or two of camp plus 4-5 preseason games is too much anyways. For the season to start on time they could likely get by with a week of camp and two preseason games. That'd give them 3 full weeks of practice with a couple of tuneups, which means the drop dead date would be a week or two into August. In that case they still have a little over a month before they have to get serious.

I think the owners are under the gun to get this done now for this exact reason. Not having camps and missing preseason games is a huge loss for the owners. They pocket all the ticket sales, parking etc...All of us have already paid long ago for our tickets which means if they dont get this done....all of us will be getting refunds for the missed preseason games.

I think I saw the number somewhere last week in the 700 million dollar range if we miss the preseason. No way the owners are willing to lose that and if we do I imagine they will dig in even further to get what they want since they paid the big loss early.

I imagine they figure it out in the next two weeks. Todd Archer said last night he was told and thinks july 18th is about the time the deal will be done and about a week later we will see players at the teams facilities and free agency open, then straight to camp...

 

[Cythim]

I have a source that says a deal is already done but they are waiting to announce it.

 

[Midswat]

On the flip side, this is Parcells' core.

lol

Still harping this?