Should we take a look ? thread

[Bob Sacamano]

Not at all. Because as it's bee established YOU DO NOT READ. Unlike you, I took your words verbatim and threw them back right at you, and then as a cowardly copout, you accuse me of twisting your words. Sorry, but you cannot neither twist nor put words in someone's mouth when you take them verbatim.

lol hogwash! You said I said Kowalski sucks. Still waiting for you to quote me on that. Or me saying I think we should take Konz over DeCastro.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

lol you don't have the stones to conduct a uniform bet, do you?

Scared?

I'll take that bet though.

No bitch. Did you not say: Just name the terms, buddy.

Well I named the terms. Nothing said that it had to be uniform. If someone tells me to name the terms, then naturally, I'm going to do so that is advantageous to myself and disadvantageous to the other party.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

lol hogwash! You said I said Kowalski sucks.

Copy-n-paste or provide and EXACT quote. Hogwash... what does your mother's bathwater have to do with this?

So are you saying that Kowalski does not suck then? It's not like you would know either way, because you pretty much have not watched him, and that's the sticking point to all of this in that you have formulated and are pushing forward an opinion of a guy that you have not watched.

And clearly you DO think he sucks, because despite not seeing him play, you reference his undrafted free agent status.

Still waiting for you to quote me on that. Or me saying I think we should take Konz over DeCastro.

Fair enough. You INFERRED it. You've been pushing hard for Konz. Therefore one can conclude that you do prefer him over DeCastro OR... are you suggesting that the Cowboys can and will draft both? Foolishness.

The consensus on this board is to draft DeCastro and acquire Nicks in free agency, and ride with Kowalski at Center for just this year to see how he does with more opportunities. Essentially anyone but Costa at Center. You continue to go with drafting Konz to provide "competition" to Kowalski. But if Konz is slated as a 1st rounder, and you like to reference Kowalski's UDFA status, then there shouldn't be no competition, right? And if there is competition and Kowalski beats him out, then what? We ended wasting a pick for guy we really didn't need, and then more importantly, we still have crap at one of the guard positions.

Most people on this board would prefer going with Kowalski at Center in between Nicks and DeCastro, as opposed to Nicks, Konz, and either Kosier, Nagy, or Arkin at the other guard position.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Copy-n-paste or provide and EXACT quote. Hogwash... what does your mother's bathwater have to do with this?

So are you saying that Kowalski does not suck then? It's not like you would know either way, because you pretty much have not watched him, and that's the sticking point to all of this in that you have formulated and are pushing forward an opinion of a guy that you have not watched.

And clearly you DO think he sucks, because despite not seeing him play, you reference his undrafted free agent status.

I guess you were just kidding about that verbatim stuff then, huh?

I said hedge our bets at center and tried to illustrated that a miniscule amount of playing time, such as Kowalski's 144 snaps, is tough to gauge anyone's future play on. Neither of which equates to Kowalski "sucking".

Fair enough. You INFERRED it. You've been pushing hard for Konz. Therefore one can conclude that you do prefer him over DeCastro OR... are you suggesting that the Cowboys can and will draft both? Foolishness.

I just said draft a center high. That could mean either Konz, Ben Jones, or Michael Brewster, who are all scheduled to go in the early portion of the draft.

The consensus on this board is to draft DeCastro and acquire Nicks in free agency, and ride with Kowalski at Center for just this year to see how he does with more opportunities.

I know the consensus is to draft DeCastro and/or sign Nicks. But outside of you, I haven't seen many people pining for Dallas to try Kowalski as the starting center. It could be because I just joined and haven't seen those posts or you're making stuff up again.

Essentially anyone but Costa at Center. You continue to go with drafting Konz to provide "competition" to Kowalski. But if Konz is slated as a 1st rounder, and you like to reference Kowalski's UDFA status, then there shouldn't be no competition, right? And if there is competition and Kowalski beats him out, then what? We ended wasting a pick for guy we really didn't need, and then more importantly, we still have crap at one of the guard positions.

There would be no point to drafting anyone if you weren't sure if they would be worth the pick or not. Every rookie goes into the NFL with an initial 50% chance bust rate anyways. So I'm not even going to entertain that idea.

Besides, Konz isn't the only center we could draft, so we could still accomplish getting both DeCastro and a high pick there.

Most people on this board would prefer going with Kowalski at Center in between Nicks and DeCastro, as opposed to Nicks, Konz, and either Kosier, Nagy, or Arkin at the other guard position.

And how did you establish this?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No bitch. Did you not say: Just name the terms, buddy.

Well I named the terms. Nothing said that it had to be uniform. If someone tells me to name the terms, then naturally, I'm going to do so that is advantageous to myself and disadvantageous to the other party.

An advantageous bet for you would be when you lose that you come out of the closet on this board like we all know you're dying to.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I guess you were just kidding about that verbatim stuff then, huh?

Whether you said it or didn't say it. You did INFER it. It's gutless to claim otherwise.

I said hedge our bets at center and tried to illustrated that a miniscule amount of playing time, such as Kowalski's 144 snaps, is tough to gauge anyone's future play on. Neither of which equates to Kowalski "sucking".

We don't have that luxury to "hedge our bets". You don't use a 1st round pick on a guy for the sake of hedging one's bet. Just foolish. If you're going to hedge your bets, then what you do is acquire Nicks and DeCastro, and go with Kowalski in between. If it doesn't work out, there are good Centers coming out next year. It was all understood that it would take 2-3 years to build this Oline and we're pretty much on schedule. And you did infer that he sucked, hence your reference to his UFDA, otherwise why bring it up?

You just don't get it. You don't draft a player in the 1st round for the mere purpose of providing competition or hedging bets. When you draft a player in the 1st, it is with the full intention of said player to come right on in and START and make an immediate impact. Tyron Smith was NOT brought in to "provide competion" or to 'hedge one's bet".

I just said draft a center high. That could mean either Konz, Ben Jones, or Michael Brewster, who are all scheduled to go in the early portion of the draft.

Konz is expected to go in the 1st round. Is that high enough? Are you advocating that we use our 1st rounder on Konz? Quit being a pussy and say what you mean. As for Ben Jones, I defer to dbair's opinion, who watched UGA ball and he stated that Jones is a huge dropoff from Konz. And I was underwhelmed by Brewster. Cowboys have greater needs and there are better players available for those needs in the draft.

I know the consensus is to draft DeCastro and/or sign Nicks. But outside of you, I haven't seen many people pining for Dallas to try Kowalski as the starting center. It could be because I just joined and haven't seen those posts or you're making stuff up again.

Actually they are IF you were to go back and ever read, but since you haven't watched Kowalski, why would we expect such from you? It's just par for course. Who the hell you think they are desiring at Center if not Kowalski? Costa? HELL NO. And neither Konz, because most of us understand that if we draft DeCastro, we will not draft Konz, and that drafting DeCastro would do more for our Oline than drafting Konz. Most people are satisfied with what they saw in Kowalski in that they would like to see him get more opportunities, in that for the moment he provides the Cowboys with breathing room because they can focus on more pertinent needs.

There would be no point to drafting anyone if you weren't sure if they would be worth the pick or not. Every rookie goes into the NFL with an initial 50% chance bust rate anyways. So I'm not even going to entertain that idea.

Not sure how you can establish that there is a 50% chance bust rate. Granted I understand that there are two scenarios that could result: bust or boom. But that doesn't mean that each scenario is equal in chance. Sorry, it's not that simplistic. Alot more variables goes into it.

Besides, Konz isn't the only center we could draft, so we could still accomplish getting both DeCastro and a high pick there.

Which would be foolish. We need a CB and pass rusher more than we need a Center, and the athletes available at those positions are seemingly better than the non-Konz centers available.

And how did you establish this?

First off, I didn't establish this. Go back and read or simply ask. Look up the threads or better yet... just ask people.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

An advantageous bet for you would be when you lose that you come out of the closet on this board like we all know you're dying to.

That doesn't make sense. If I was "dying to come out the closet" then I would just do it. Wouldn't need to lose a bet to accomplish that. Sounds to me that you are projecting.


I think we all know why you go by the name 'ExtremeMcClean', because you are a human Maytag.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I've been asked to end this debate, so I will simply await the day you put, "ExtremeMcClean is great" in your sig.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I've been asked to end this debate, so I will simply await the day you put, "ExtremeMcClean is great" in your sig.

Whatever Nice copout.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Bart Scott?

 

[cmd34]

Bart Scott?

Would love his attitude but would only sign him if I (the coaching staff) felt Bruce Carter isn't ready.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

I don't understand people's need to shore that spot up. We took a 1st rounder last year at that position.

$40M on d'qwell is $40m less we can spend on areas that dont have premium picks

Scott is 31, I don't think hed be getting a major payday. Probably somewhere between a stop-gap and an investment

 

[Hoofbite]

Chris Myers, C.

From Houston.

Get him.