Ray Sherman Not Returning?

[sdogo]

Crazy suggestion that would never happen but I would fist pump if it did.

Michael Irvin.

Something I always hoped for but Irvin has stated he has no desire to coach. I sure wish he would change his mind.

 

[Cr122]

Crazy suggestion that would never happen but I would fist pump if it did.

Michael Irvin.

Oh, hells yes!!

 

[sbk92]

This is a Garrett move. No way would Jerry want to get rid of a heralded assistant like Sherman.

 

[sbk92]

Irvin's got a cushy analyst gig. I'm sure he makes better money with better hours than he would coaching receivers here.

But damn if he isn't tailor made to do it.

 

[Cr122]

This is a Garrett move. No way would Jerry want to get rid of a heralded assistant like Sherman.

Oh, absolutely, I'm starting to believe this power gig.

Let's see what happens with the roster and draft before I'm completely convinced.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Oh, hells yes!!

SIRACUSA!!

Instead of hell yes, or hell yeah, we say SIRACUSA!

 

[Cr122]

SIRACUSA!!

Instead of hell yes, or hell yeah, we say SIRACUSA!

Don't make me bitch slap your ass.

And just remember, it was me that wanted to bring you back on staff, cracker.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

I'm beginning to "really" believe this Garrett's team peeps.

 

[dbair1967]

As I said in another thread. Jason is going to get his people in Dallas and we the fans may not agree but this staff is going to get younger and hungrier...........we will see if it gets better.

And thats a good thing. We havent exactly been tearing it up with Wade's people. JG is doing the right thing getting his guys or people he beleives are his type of guys.

 

[Sheik]

MFer.

I hope we have someone in line that can handle Dez Bryant with kid gloves. Not that he's TO or anything, but I liked the way Sherman seemed to be able and take his guys to the side and calm them with ease.

I'll feel uneasy about this move until I see what Garrett has in mind.

 

[Cr122]

MFer.

I hope we have someone in line that can handle Dez Bryant with kid gloves. Not that he's TO or anything, but I liked the way Sherman seemed to be able and take his guys to the side and calm them with ease.

I'll feel uneasy about this move until I see what Garrett has in mind.

Exactly, these receivers looked at Sherman as a father figure.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

As I said in another thread. Jason is going to get his people in Dallas and we the fans may not agree but this staff is going to get younger and hungrier...........we will see if it gets better.

I like Sherman, but I like the way Garrwett is taking control. Now if he would just get rid of Houck and Campo.

 

[Bonecrusher#31]

Exactly, these receivers looked at Sherman as a father figure.

Well its time to grow up now boys.

 

[Midswat]

I commented how I don't like this move in another thread.

I can't believe we make it known first that our best assistant coach will not be retained, as opposed to the shit canning of dead weight guys like Houck, Campo, Maxie, etc.

Of course, perhaps that's somewhat the respectful thing to do, to allow Sherman a jump to be employed elsewhere.

Who knows. Not a fan of this move.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I commented how I don't like this move in another thread.

I can't believe we make it known first that our best assistant coach will not be retained, as opposed to the shit canning of dead weight guys like Houck, Campo, Maxie, etc.

Of course, perhaps that's somewhat the respectful thing to do, to allow Sherman a jump to be employed elsewhere.

Who knows. Not a fan of this move.

If Houck, Campo, and Maxie pad are cut afterwards, does it matter? And ar eyou serious about Santana Moss and Rogers as FA pickups?

 

[Midswat]

If Houck, Campo, and Maxie pad are cut afterwards, does it matter? And ar eyou serious about Santana Moss and Rogers as FA pickups?

Yes. But lets not hijack this thread.

 

[dbair1967]

I commented how I don't like this move in another thread.

I can't believe we make it known first that our best assistant coach will not be retained, as opposed to the shit canning of dead weight guys like Houck, Campo, Maxie, etc.

Of course, perhaps that's somewhat the respectful thing to do, to allow Sherman a jump to be employed elsewhere.

Who knows. Not a fan of this move.

How good of a coach is he though?

Miles Austin is a great WR now, he deserves credit for that.

But even this yr, our WR's were running the wrong routes and dropping balls or deflecting them constantly to the other team for turnovers. Most on perfectly thrown passes.

Then there's the revelation that he had "rant/complaint Thursday" in which WR's could come directly to him to voice complaints with the offense. Then there's the fact that the WR's for all 4 of his years here had a propensity to go to the press and complain.

Garrett came up under Jimmy and you can tell he has alot of his beliefs in how to a coach a team built from that time, Jimmy would have shit canned any position coach who tried to undermine him. I dont think its a surprise that Garrett just did basically that.

 

[Midswat]

How good of a coach is he though?

Miles Austin is a great WR now, he deserves credit for that.

But even this yr, our WR's were running the wrong routes and dropping balls or deflecting them constantly to the other team for turnovers. Most on perfectly thrown passes.

Then there's the revelation that he had "rant/complaint Thursday" in which WR's could come directly to him to voice complaints with the offense. Then there's the fact that the WR's for all 4 of his years here had a propensity to go to the press and complain.

Garrett came up under Jimmy and you can tell he has alot of his beliefs in how to a coach a team built from that time, Jimmy would have shit canned any position coach who tried to undermine him. I dont think its a surprise that Garrett just did basically that.

You make good points, but I'm still not sure I'm a fan of the move.

That is a great point, specifically about receivers running wrong routes. And I'm not a fan of the rant sessions. What benefit would that provide?

Also, Kevin Ogletree regressed significantly. Shermans fault? Or did Ogletree just get too hollywood after his rookie year?

I'll defer to Garrett. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.

 

[dbair1967]

You make good points, but I'm still not sure I'm a fan of the move.

That is a great point, specifically about receivers running wrong routes. And I'm not a fan of the rant sessions. What benefit would that provide?

Also, Kevin Ogletree regressed significantly. Shermans fault? Or did Ogletree just get too hollywood after his rookie year?

I'll defer to Garrett. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise.

By the way, your Vols WR coach is considered one of the leading candidates to replace him. Charlie Baggett. Pic belo is from his days in STL, also coached with Garrett in Miami.

 

[Cr122]

Here's a little write up on Charlie Baggett.

NFL veteran Charlie Baggett, who has coached nine 1,000-yard receivers in the professional ranks, will serve as Tennessee's assistant head coach and wide receivers coach.

Baggett brings 33 years of coaching experience to the Vols, including 11 seasons as an NFL assistant.

Baggett had just completed his first season with the St. Louis Rams when Vols head coach Derek Dooley selected him for UT's assistant head coach.

Baggett previously was at the University of Washington, where he coached wide receivers from 2007-08. Baggett was associate head coach/offense and wide receivers coach for the Miami Dolphins from 2005-06.

Under Baggett, Dolphins wide receiver Chris Chambers recorded the most productive season of his career in 2005, catching 82 passes for 1,118 yards and 11 touchdowns and becoming the first Dolphins wide receiver to be named to the Pro Bowl since Irving Fryar in 1994.

He was wide receivers coach for the Minnesota Vikings from 2000-04, coaching Cris Carter and Randy Moss. In the first four seasons of Baggett's tenure, Moss had 376 receptions for 5,649 yards and 49 touchdowns, all of which ranked in the top three in the NFL. Carter caught 169 passes before retiring after the 2001 season. Carter (2000) and Moss (2000, 2002-03) earned four Pro Bowl invitations.

Baggett came to the Vikings following the 1999 season at Green Bay, where Packers receivers Antonio Freeman and Bill Schroeder each surpassed 1,000 yards and combined for 148 catches.

Baggett was associate head coach/wide receivers coach at his alma mater, Michigan State University, from 1995-98, his second stint at the school, having also served the Spartans from 1983-92 as wide receivers coach (1983-84, 1986- 87, 1990-92) and as running backs coach (1985, 1988-89).

In 14 seasons and two tenures at Michigan State, Baggett guided such future NFL players as Andre Rison, Mark Ingram, Plaxico Burress, Lorenzo White, Muhsin Muhammad, Daryl Turner, Derrick Mason, and Courtney Hawkins.

Baggett made his NFL coaching debut with the Houston Oilers, tutoring receivers from 1993- 94. In his first season with the team, Oilers receivers Haywood Jefferies and Webster Slaughter were named to the Pro Bowl.

Baggett began his collegiate playing career at the University of North Carolina in 1971 before transferring to Michigan State, where he started at quarterback for three seasons (1973-75).

Baggett was with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats of the CFL in 1976 before beginning his coaching career, overseeing wide receivers and running backs at Bowling Green in 1977. Baggett moved on to coach wide receivers at the University of Minnesota from 1981-82.

A native of Fayetteville, N.C., Baggett and his wife, Lisa, have a daughter, Camille.