Ravens Terminate Rice's Contract

[Doomsday]

neither was he. 70% of domestic violence incidents in which one party does not hit back are initiated by women.

That's good. Someone should have told Rice that.

 

[peplaw06]

Some are even saying this could bring Goodell down.

God let's hope so.

Yep, everyone I've heard comment on it seems to think that Goodell may have to step down.

Today the New Jersey State Police is saying that they didn't have the tape because they only handle investigations from the casino floor, not the elevators. Atlantic City PD had the tape. So the NFL's statement that they couldn't get the video from NJSP is inaccurate. Walls are crumbling down around der kommissar.

 

[bbgun]

it's totally implausible and preposterous that the NFL's army of investigators didn't ask the casino if there was a camera in the elevator. that's the first question any semi-competent investigator would have asked.

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I could write a book on how a psycho bitch can make a good guy do bad shit.

Woman know they cant physically dominate you but they will use psychological warfare.

Domestic violence isnt so black and white as everyone wants to make it out to be. Each case is different.

I hate that you cant speak out about it without the massive backlash it brings.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Damn, Madden totally erased Rice from their game. He's not even a free agent.

I guess that's the update part of the game.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

it's totally implausible and preposterous that the NFL's army of investigators didn't ask the casino if there was a camera in the elevator. that's the first question any semi-competent investigator would have asked.

Actually, the NFL's investigators saw the whole incident on tape. That's the biggest reason why Goodell is in such deep shit.

 

[Doomsday]

I could write a book on how a psycho bitch can make a good guy do bad shit.

Woman know they cant physically dominate you but they will use psychological warfare.

Domestic violence isnt so black and white as everyone wants to make it out to be. Each case is different.

Most all of us have lived through this. Very few of us went ape and coldcocked 'em.

I hate that you cant speak out about it without the massive backlash it brings.

True dat.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Misogyny at its finest

 

[Everlastingxxx]

Most all of us have lived through this. Very few of us went ape and coldcocked 'em.True dat.

Yea he is a dumbass for punching her in the face. Never hit the face!

 

[Doomsday]

Yea he is a dumbass for punching her in the face. Never hit the face!

That's the NFL's message here.

It was okay for him to have beat her up, he could still be a NFL player we just need a little hand slap suspension to keep the women's groups placated. But now? No. We frikkin SAW it therefore you must be terminated.

The lesson: "Hey you NFL players, don't beat up women in casinos, where you fucking KNOW there's gone be cammers everywhere you dumb fucks. Do it instead where no one will see or where it won't be frikkin recorded."

 

[Everlastingxxx]

That's the NFL's message here.

It was okay for him to have beat her up, he could still be a NFL player we just need a little hand slap suspension to keep the women's groups placated. But now? No. We frikkin SAW it therefore you must be terminated.

The lesson: "Hey you NFL players, don't beat up women in casinos, where you fucking KNOW there's gone be cammers everywhere you dumb fucks. Do it instead where no one will see or where it won't be frikkin recorded."

The NFL looks ridiculous. I hope this is the beginning of the end for the Commissioner. Under what rule is Rice suspended indefinitely? Under the new agreement its only 6 games? There is so much outcry that the players union wouldnt fight it. Plus, my fantasy team is fucked now! lol

 

[Sheik]

I'd never hit my wife, or any woman for that matter.

The wife and l had a 2 minute conversation when she stumbled onto the video last night.

She asked "would you ever hit me like that?" I wouldn't, but I told her that she'd probably not want to hit me, cause the only person that hits someone, is a person that wants to fight.

She flew off the handle and was like "I can't hurt you", I was like, wtf? Why would you expect that you could hit me in the face and not get hit back? Bitches are crazy.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I wouldn't hit back either. Pushing them down is another story though.

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

I knew Bbgun would have an old white guy stance

 

[marionbarberthe4th]

Why is goodell in trouble here? He can't get tapes unless cops release it. He went light bc rice was clean before this and then lied and the girl said nice things about ray. It was probably coated as something way less actually violent. Shit I always assumed she was basically passed out drunk. Rice is the one who nearly killed a girl

He's trying to match a penalty for a crime and changed it 3 times to appease people. He didn't hurt anyone he just misjudged publics outcry

 

[Doomsday]

Why is goodell in trouble here?

Because there is evidence NFL officials saw the entire video, at the casino. Meaning they knew the whole story but decided to downplay it. And only when the video from inside the elevator was released publicly, does the NFL then do its 180.

TMZ warned at least three weeks before the release, that they had the elevator video and were going to be releasing it. There is simply no way Goodell and the NFL didn't know about it and the contents of it.

"He knocked the Ho out and she doesn't seem to mind, the prosecutor doesn't seem to mind, therefore we really don't mind." - That is, until the video went viral.

 

[bbgun]

Why is goodell in trouble here?

because a sleazy outfit like TMZ shouldn't be able to get their hands on the tape before you do

 

[peplaw06]

I don't believe for a second that someone from the NFL didn't see the elevator video. I've heard of police holding back evidence because the investigation was ongoing, but Rice not only had charges filed against him, the case had been disposed of by a pre-trial intervention program. The prosecution of him was done for all intents and purposes. At that point Rice's attorney would have had the video, the DA wouldn't have held that from the NFL, and the police department wouldn't be investigating anymore, so there is no reason it couldn't have been given to the league. The whole we asked but couldn't get it is bogus.

Goodell purposely waited 6 months from the incident to see how the charges played out, to let all the evidence be obtained, and he made the call of 2 games without having all the info? No way. If he truly did that then it's incompetence at best.

Plus -- and this is probably the worst part -- Goodell interviewed Rice WITH HIS WIFE. That is a huge mistake in any investigation if you really want to get the truth. That is information gathering 101 when interviewing victims or witnesses.

 

[ThoughtExperiment]

As much as I can't stand Goodell, I'm sort of with mb on this one, although I admit I don't know anything about how the NFL investigation works.

I mean, they aren't the cops. They can't subpoena people, or do anything they want. TMZ gets video because people know they'll pay tons of money for it and they don't care where they get it. The NFL doesn't and almost can't operate that way, can they?

I just have a hard time believing Goodell knew a tape that horrific existed and ignored it.

Ok, I posted before pep's post was up. Maybe that's all true. I do tend to think that the NFL isn't set up for criminal type investigations, although I guess one could argue they should be with all the zillions of dollars at their disposal. Still, wouldn't the NFLPA have a complaint, and a legit one, if the NFL started patterning its investigative office after a police operation?

 

[Doomsday]

As much as I can't stand Goodell, I'm sort of with mb on this one, although I admit I don't know anything about how the NFL investigation works.

I mean, they aren't the cops. They can't subpoena people, or do anything they want. TMZ gets video because people know they'll pay tons of money for it and they don't care where they get it. The NFL doesn't and almost can't operate that way, can they?

I just have a hard time believing Goodell knew a tape that horrific existed and ignored it.

The other shoe drops soon, when the casino employees who have said they showed the video to NFL officials at the casino, come out and have their say.