Punter Chris Kluwe: I was an NFL player until I was fired by 2 cowards and a bigot

[Jon88]

Link, I'm not copying all of that:

http://deadspin.com/i-was-an-nfl-player-until-i-was-fired-by-two-cowards-an-1493208214

 

[Sheik]

Not sure what to think about this.

On one hand it seems really fucked up from his point of view, but on the other hand, he wanted to be a vocal cheerleader for gay rights.


He put himself out there, good for him or whatever, but now you sleep in the bed you made.

 

[Jon88]

He's a big attention whore douchebag.

I'm all for gay rights, that's fine but I'm not about to shoot my mouth off for it to get attention.

 

[dbair1967]

I'm all for gay rights,.

I'm sure Bob and his kind really appreciate the support too.

 

[Jon88]

You sir are a racist.

That douchebag reporter Woody Paige told me that in an email one time when I objected to something he wrote about slavery in one of his columns before a Super Bowl in New Orleans. I thought it was inappropriate.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't mind banging your mom in secret, dbair. I'm a huge carpet munching lesbian.

 

[Rock Slamdance]

I follow Kluwe on the Twittyer. Pretty intelligent dude.

 

[bbgun]

run your mouth about gay marriage, and then claim discrimination when you're eventually cut. pretty clever.

 

[jnday]

He's a big attention whore douchebag.

I'm all for gay rights, that's fine but I'm not about to shoot my mouth off for it to get attention.

Exactly what gay rights are you for? Serious question.

 

[Jon88]

Ok, this may make you angry but you asked and I'll answer.

I think they should be able to get married and enjoy the rights that everyone else does. I think the vast majority don't choose to be gay. I think they're born like it. Who is anyone else to tell them they can't get married? Based on a book that says snakes and bushes talk and that every animal in the world fit on a boat? OK...

 

[junk]

Ok, this may make you angry but you asked and I'll answer.

I think they should be able to get married and enjoy the rights that everyone else does. I think the vast majority don't choose to be gay. I think they're born like it. Who is anyone else to tell them they can't get married? Based on a book that says snakes and bushes talk and that every animal in the world fit on a boat? OK...

Make the legal part a civil ceremony (or the paperwork part in most cases) and make "marriage" be a religious event. Then, legally, gays have the same rights as heterosexuals. As far as the religious aspect, that is up to the church. I'm sure there are churches that will perform the ceremonies. If not, create your own.

 

[peplaw06]

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. The pro gay lobbies, such as GLAAD, are some of the biggest bullying associations on the planet, as seen with the Duck Dynasty dust up. They're all for Phil Robertson losing his job for speaking his beliefs, and I'm sure Kluwe is probably on board with that. Now he sees there are two sides to that coin.

When Phil Robertson backers were claiming his right to freedom of speech was being infringed upon, the anti-Phil faction was quick to point out it wasn't the government who was acting against him, so free speech didn't apply. They said Phil had the right to speak out, but there can be other ramifications, such as commercial and financial interests. Same thing here. Kluwe does have the right to speak out, but he better be ready to deal with the consequences.

 

[junk]

And Kluwe kind of comes off a little whiny in this whole thing. Appreciate him being outspoken on human rights, but he's a middle of the pack punter who happens to be 32 years old. Financially, it makes sense for a team to get younger/cheaper at a position like punter.

 

[junk]

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. The pro gay lobbies, such as GLAAD, are some of the biggest bullying associations on the planet, as seen with the Duck Dynasty dust up. They're all for Phil Robertson losing his job for speaking his beliefs, and I'm sure Kluwe is probably on board with that. Now he sees there are two sides to that coin.

When Phil Robertson backers were claiming his right to freedom of speech was being infringed upon, the anti-Phil faction was quick to point out it wasn't the government who was acting against him, so free speech didn't apply. They said Phil had the right to speak out, but there can be other ramifications, such as commercial and financial interests. Same thing here. Kluwe does have the right to speak out, but he better be ready to deal with the consequences.

The Phil Robertson thing was just a publicity ploy, pep. Worked like a charm.

 

[Jon88]

Make the legal part a civil ceremony (or the paperwork part in most cases) and make "marriage" be a religious event. Then, legally, gays have the same rights as heterosexuals. As far as the religious aspect, that is up to the church. I'm sure there are churches that will perform the ceremonies. If not, create your own.

I don't think churches should be forced to marry two gay people at all. If they don't want to then don't.

 

[Jon88]

These religious people speak out against it because they're told to. It doesn't affect them at all who gets married and who doesn't.

 

[junk]

I don't think churches should be forced to marry two gay people at all. If they don't want to then don't.

Read my post, Jon. I didn't say that.

As far as the religious aspect, that is up to the church. I'm sure there are churches that will perform the ceremonies. If not, create your own.

I'm sure there are pro-gay churches out there. I know there are many that are against. As far as I'm concerned, a church can choose to marry whomever they want.

There isn't anything that prevents homosexuals from starting their own church to perform marriage ceremonies if there isn't one that exists. That's probably how most new religions/churches start. Their old one won't let them do something they want.

The thing I find humorous about marriage is that it really is just a paperwork exercise. I can fill out a form on the Internet and legally marry people in most states.. You'd think if churches wanted to protect the sanctity of marriage, they'd be upset about those types of things. I don't hear much about it though.

 

[Jon88]

I'm sure there will be lawsuits because a church wouldn't marry a gay couple (I think it's already happened), and I am 100% against those. It goes against what church's believe in so go somewhere else.

That's like going into a mosque with a ham sandwhich and suing because you can't eat it there (if they don't cut your head off first). Ridiculous.

I wouldn't get married at a church and when I do get married it won't be by a minister because I'd rather have a used car salesman perform the ceremony.

 

[junk]

I'm sure there will be lawsuits because a church wouldn't marry a gay couple (I think it's already happened), and I am 100% against those. It goes against what church's believe in so go somewhere else.

That's like going into a mosque with a ham sandwhich and suing because you can't eat it there (if they don't cut your head off first). Ridiculous.

I wouldn't get married at a church and when I do get married it won't be by a minister because I'd rather have a used car salesman perform the ceremony.

Agree completely.

The thing I don't agree with (and I debated with someone on here, I think) is if a church does something like rents out their facilities to the general public, but decides they won't rent to gays (or blacks or Asians or Catholics or whatever)

 

[Jon88]

The thing I don't agree with (and I debated with someone on here, I think) is if a church does something like rents out their facilities to the general public, but decides they won't rent to gays (or blacks or Asians or Catholics or whatever)

I think it's the law that if you rent to the general public then you have to rent to everyone and not pick and choose, but I'm sure they complain about it. They want to use the law - tax free status - when it's convenient for them.