Punish Law Abiding Citizens and Ignore Criminals. Great Plan. Fucking Idiots.

[Jon88]

~flips table back over~

Both of you fucking stop!!

 

[Iamtdg]

Nice shot!

 

[Jon88]

~grabs the gun from NoDak and disassembles it in 1.25 seconds~

 

[ScipioCowboy]

What just happened here?

 

[Iamtdg]

You did shoot Jon88, right?

 

[Iamtdg]

~grabs the gun from NoDak and disassembles it in 1.25 seconds~

~laughs as Jon88 shoots himself in the nads~

 

[NoDak]

You did shoot Jon88, right?

Hell no. He scares me.

Did you guys know the real reason WTC7 fell was because jon stared at it really hard?

Intimidated that mf'er right to the ground.

 

[iceberg]

I wasn't talking about the Charlie guy getting fired. It was some kid who worked for one of the regulars on the show. The kid who worked with one guys dogs. He let one get away the one time and spent all night looking for it. The episode I saw Charlie fire a number of rounds with his Ar15 at an animal was around that show. I can't find videos because when I goggled it there weren't many videos period available. Anyway There is your point of reference.

i know what "kid" you're talking about and he definitely wasn't native. he couldn't hack it so he was sent home.

 

[Jon88]

That's a better explanation than a few small office fires.

 

[Iamtdg]

Hell no. He scares me.

Did you guys know the real reason WTC7 fell was because jon stared at it really hard?

Intimidated that mf'er right to the ground.

 

[MetalHead]

You can't use a semi automatic weapon in PA to hunt. I don't find using semi automatic weapons to hunt ethical.

I have no idea if the Pa Game commission had any laws like that after WWII. They were there in the 80's when I started hunting. They very likely didn't but your response really has nothing to do with what I said. Thanks for contributing though.

That is where your argument falls apart.
It is not a fact,just your personal opinion.

 

[NoDak]

That is where your argument falls apart.
It is not a fact,just your personal opinion.

I don't agree with him on the subject, but the sentence you bolded is only showing his opinion. He said HE doesn't find it to be ethical. He didn't claim it definitively IS unethical.

 

[2233boys]

That is where your argument falls apart.
It is not a fact,just your personal opinion.

Sigh! I think I made my case for my opinion. You don't have to agree.

I don't agree with him on the subject, but the sentence you bolded is only showing his opinion. He said HE doesn't find it to be ethical. He didn't claim it definitively IS unethical.

Thanks

 

[junk]

Interesting thread.

I don't really see the effectiveness of gun control laws, but some of the pro-gun crowd arguments in this thread don't help your cause.

Random thoughts:
- Out of curiosity, what gun laws have been enacted lately (say 20 years) that restrict your ability to own guns or types of guns?

- People that are going to do horrible things will find a way to do horrible things. HBO has a new series called Vice where they talked about political violence in the Philippines. I didn't catch if guns were outlawed or just hard to come by, but there was a whole underground market of people that would build guns from scratch.

- I like most of iceberg's thoughts on training. That's just a responsible approach that anyone who is owning a gun (or using a gun) should follow.

- I would want a semi-automatic rifle for hunting. Or at least I can see an argument for it. As much as you want a clean shot and try your best to get a clean shot, it doesn't always happen that way. If you happen to wound, and not kill, an animal, you want to kill it as soon as possible. A semi-automatic gives you a better chance of doing that.

- I sort of get the "protect your home" thing. Maybe I'd be more behind this if I lived in a shitty area where I worried more about that, but home invasion is pretty low on my list of concerns (watch me get burgled tonight)

- I don't get the whole "I'm gunna fight the govt or foreign invaders" nonsense. Whatever. This is about a realistic as planning to fight back from an outer space alien invasion. I'd be more worried about some dipshit with a gun not knowing what he was doing and accidentally shooting me than having to defend myself from the government.

- Gun control is another one of those fringe issues that people are passionate about that politicians can bring out to fire up their base, smear their opponent or just generally distract the public from the real issues plaguing this country.

 

[Iamtdg]

Our country was founded by us having to fight our government at the time. We used the weapons allowed us to gain our independence. How is this any different?

 

[peplaw06]

Our country was founded by us having to fight our government at the time. We used the weapons allowed us to gain our independence. How is this any different?

Not just the country. Texas had to fight for our independence. The Civil War. Those also wouldn't have been possible without the citizens being armed.

The whole "government or another country will never do anything to us" line of thinking is just naivete. How many countries have gone for centuries upon centuries without having some type of war being waged inside the country? The US experienced that in its infancy just under 200 years ago. It's going to happen again, just a matter of when.

Thinking it won't ever happen again is partly arrogant, but mostly ignorant.

 

[Iamtdg]

I think it's a passive thing. We have been kinda sorta okay for a long time and we have let our govt get to the point where we are in a comfort zone. Too damn comfy. We have allowed them to take too much control. The simple fact they can track our weapons is ridiculously beyond what the constitution intended. If they wanted to, they can go find any weapon they want to confiscate at any time and go take it.

That's why I am adamant about stopping further gun restriction as it has gotten so bad that the next step pushes us right into blind fealty. Which is where SP is now. He has full faith in our govt. To the point that he has given up his opinion to take in an opinion fed him.

There has to be a distinct separation. Can't have it any other way.

 

[superpunk]

Please stop with the obsession with me. I haven't advocated for gun control at all, and your misrepresentation of my position on politics is fucktarded. I know you all love getting my attention because otherwise you aren't exposed to progressives at all, and this would basically become the same conservative shithole echo chamber that every forum you morons overrun becomes, but seriously...I'm not available. Sorry ladies.

 

[iceberg]

Please stop with the obsession with me. I haven't advocated for gun control at all, and your misrepresentation of my position on politics is fucktarded. I know you all love getting my attention because otherwise you aren't exposed to progressives at all, and this would basically become the same conservative shithole echo chamber that every forum you morons overrun becomes, but seriously...I'm not available. Sorry ladies.

 

[jeebus]

Not just the country. Texas had to fight for our independence. The Civil War. Those also wouldn't have been possible without the citizens being armed.

The whole "government or another country will never do anything to us" line of thinking is just naivete. How many countries have gone for centuries upon centuries without having some type of war being waged inside the country? The US experienced that in its infancy just under 200 years ago. It's going to happen again, just a matter of when.

Thinking it won't ever happen again is partly arrogant, but mostly ignorant.

I agree.

Sooner or later it all falls down. Always has, always will.