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People like you need to die... fast. You feed on party propaganda and cannot form an opinion of your own. You are the worst thing to happen to American politics.

Right. Party propaganda has nothing to do with believing in something as incredibly stupid as global warming, or not seeing the fact that the current President was never qualified for the job and proves it every day he's in office.
 

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Why would I believe it? Again its a FACT that earth has been hotter and colder, numerous times. And it had nothing to do with people or industry. So yeah, it does dismiss it. Something the majority of scientists not supported by the liberal agenda all agree with.

Global warming is a total sham, something invented by a bunch of blood sucking leeches like Al Gore.

You are grasping at straws in a poor attempt to prove an unsubstaniated position. The majority of scientists support the fact that we have gone through warming and cooling trends but the majority also disagree with your position. You have nothing to back yourself up but a bunch of false claims.
 

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Right. Party propaganda has nothing to do with believing in something as incredibly stupid as global warming, or not seeing the fact that the current President was never qualified for the job and proves it every day he's in office.

Propaganda has everything to do with not believing in global warming and President Obama's qualifications.
 

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You are grasping at straws in a poor attempt to prove an unsubstaniated position. The majority of scientists support the fact that we have gone through warming and cooling trends but the majority also disagree with your position. You have nothing to back yourself up but a bunch of false claims.

You need to get your news from places other than CNN, CBS and The Daily Liberal then, because its out there for all to see.
 

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The Association of British Drivers
Green Myths On Global Warming — Debunked
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1 MYTH Planet earth is currently undergoing global warming
FACT Accurate and representative temperature measurements from satellites and balloons show that the planet has cooled significantly in the last two or three years, losing in only 18 months 15% of the claimed warming which took over 100 years to appear — that warming was only one degree fahrenheit (half of one degree Celsius) anyway, and part of this is a systematic error from groundstation readings which are inflated due to the 'urban heat island effect' i.e. local heat retention due to urban sprawl, not global warming...and it is these, 'false high' ground readings which are then programmed into the disreputable climate models, which live up to the GIGO acronym — garbage in, garbage out.

2 MYTH Even slight temperature rises are disastrous, ice caps will melt, people will die
FACT In the UK, every mild winter saves 20,000 cold-related deaths, and scaled up over northern Europe mild winters save hundreds of thousands of lives each year, also parts of ice caps are melting yet other parts are thickening but this isn't reported as much (home experiment: put some water in a jug or bowl, add a layer of ice cubes and mark the level — wait until the ice has melted and look again, the level will have fallen). Data from ice core samples shows that in the past, temperatures have risen by ten times the current rise, and fallen again, in the space of a human lifetime.

3 MYTH Carbon Dioxide levels in our atmosphere at the moment are unprecedented (high).
FACT Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, currently only 350 parts per million have been over 18 times higher in the past at a time when cars, factories and power stations did not exist — levels rise and fall without mankind's help.

4 MYTH Mankind is pumping out carbon dioxide at a prodigious rate.
FACT 96.5% of all carbon dioxide emissions are from natural sources, mankind is responsible for only 3.5%, with 0.6% coming from fuel to move vehicles, and about 1% from fuel to heat buildings. Yet vehicle fuel (petrol) is taxed at 300% while fuel to heat buildings is taxed at 5% even though buildings emit nearly twice as much carbon dioxide!

5 MYTH Carbon dioxide changes in the atmosphere cause temperature changes on the earth.
FACT A report in the journal 'Science' in January of this year showed using information from ice cores with high time resolution that since the last ice age, every time when the temperature and carbon dioxide levels have shifted, the carbon dioxide change happened AFTER the temperature change, so that man-made global warming theory has put effect before cause — this shows that reducing carbon dioxide emissions is a futile King Canute exercise! What's more, both water vapour and methane are far more powerful greenhouse gases than carbon dioxide but they are ignored.

6 MYTH Reducing car use will cut carbon dioxide levels and save the planet
FACT The planet does not need saving, but taking this on anyway, removing every car from every road in every country overnight would NOT produce any change in the carbon dioxide level of the atmosphere, as can be seen using the numbers from Fact 4, and in any case it is pointless trying to alter climate by changing carbon dioxide levels as the cause and effect is the other way round — it is changes in the activity of the Sun that cause temperature changes on earth, with any temperature rise causing carbon dioxide to de-gas from the oceans.

7 MYTH The recent wet weather and flooding was caused by mankind through 'global warming'
FACT Extreme weather correlates with the cycle of solar activity, not carbon dioxide emissions or political elections, the recent heavy rainfall in winter and spring is a perfect example of this — it occurred at solar maximum at a time when solar maxima are very intense — this pattern may well repeat every 11 years until about 2045.

8 MYTH The climate change levy, petrol duty, CO2 car tax and workplace parking charges are justifiable environmental taxes.
FACT As carbon dioxide emissions from cars and factories does not have any measurable impact on climate, these taxes are 'just another tax' on enterprise and mobility, and have no real green credentials.

9 MYTH Scientists on the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issue reports that say 'global warming' is real and that we must do something now.
FACT Scientists draft reports for the IPCC, but the IPCC are bureaucrats appointed by governments, in fact many scientists who contribute to the reports disagree with the 'spin' that the IPCC and media put on their findings.
The latest report suggests that the next 100 years might see a temperature change of 6 Celsius yet a Lead Author for the IPCC (Dr John Christy UAH/NASA) has pointed out that the scenarios with the fastest warming rates were added to the report at a late stage, at the request of a few governments — in other words the scientists were told what to do by politicians.

10 MYTH There are only a tiny handful of maverick scientists who dispute that man-made global warming theory is true.
FACT There are nearly 18,000 signatures from scientists worldwide on a petition called The Oregon Petition which says that there is no evidence for man-made global warming theory nor for any impact from mankind's activities on climate.
Many scientists believe that the Kyoto agreement is a total waste of time and one of the biggest political scams ever perpetrated on the public ... as H L Mencken said "the fundamental aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and hence clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary" ... the desire to save the world usually fronts a desire to rule it.
 

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I blame the Republicans for giving us McCain/Palin as the only alternative.

OH hell yes, I COMPLETELY agree with ya there man. lol

The facts are there and science agrees, but go ahead and listen to your buddy Glenn Beck. God has told him what the answer is, right?

Sorry, not a real fan of Glenn Beck. Just like your "propaganda" bullshit you spew. Not all conservatives agree or like the Hannity's, Becks of the radio/tv world.

It is true that global warming is cyclical, but that does not dismiss the fact that we are contributing to the process. Why don't you want to believe this? You can throw out tags all you want, but I am not a liberal, it would take a dipshit like you to try and catagorize me as such.

Of course we are contributing. And, like I stated, we should definately find alternative energy sources, you just don't shitcan the existing shit with NOTHING to replace it.

Propaganda has everything to do with not believing in global warming and President Obama's qualifications.

LOL. This has got to be THE dumbest post I have read on this site. It is right up here with this one from some dipshit moron lib puke from another forum I visit.

This is the moron's quote:

It is the governments money you ****ing asshole they print it and distrute it
to people who can use it

lol.

We are truly screwed as a society with moron's like the moron that I quoted are allowed to vote.

You are absolutely right that it isn't common sense. A 60% approval rating shows that common sense thinks he is qualified for the position.

Yeah. lol, I bet that was your thinking about this time last year, when it was in the low 40's, without riding the wave of killing Bin Laden. He has done one thing right in his promise to America. Better than nothing, I will give him that. He just better well damn pray he finds or kills another Most Wanted Terrorist before Nov. 2012.

Course, he won't need to. The sheep are going to flock and vote for this Messiah again. So, it doesn't really matter.

And, since you love facts so much.

FACT. Obama had NEVER ran a business before. No experience in actually making a profit, managing payroll, etc.

FACT. Two years in the Senate with a very shady and quite frankly complete non backbone way of voting while in the Senate.

In no way should this guy be in the White House. His policies have failed. He has complete disregard for our Constitution unless it benefits his plan and how he wants America to be.
 
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You are absolutely right that it isn't common sense. A 60% approval rating shows that common sense thinks he is qualified for the position.

WTF? Really? Are you this much of a moron?

Arguing with you on this topic= done
 
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Why would I believe it? Again its a FACT that earth has been hotter and colder, numerous times. And it had nothing to do with people or industry. So yeah, it does dismiss it. Something the majority of scientists not supported by the liberal agenda all agree with.

Global warming is a total sham, something invented by a bunch of blood sucking leeches like Al Gore.

Just because it had nothing to do with people or industry before, does not mean it never will. There is a reason that it is a global issue being given consideration by over 200 countries around the world who are investing their time and money into combating it. If it was a myth, there wouldn't be nations all over the world wasting their time and money on the problem.
 

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WTF? Really? Are you this much of a moron?

Arguing with you on this topic= done

Right, because you have no leg to stand on for your arguments. You spew your propaganda and panic when someone who shows original thought disputes you. I am not that much of a moron, I just have to dumb down my arguments so you can actually understand them. The fact here is that common sense does not apply to either of these arguments because the problems are too complex for the judgement to be common. Opinion of a president changes daily, but the fact that he was elected over his "more qualified" opponent proves that a larger portion of Americans believes he is qualified versus those who do not. In the end there is absolutely nothing common about his opinion.

And thank you for dropping the global warming argument. You are too stupid to argue it with me.
 

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Here is a blog from a Chicago-Tribune writer comparing Obama to Hillary before the election.

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2007/01/is_barack_obama.html

Key points:

Obama has held elective office for 10 years (more than Hillary Clinton and more than John Edwards), he's taught constitutional law at one of the top law schools in the country and seen politics and government from the viewpoint of a community organizer. Ideally, sure, he'd have run a corporation or a state or been a military general.

He also points out how qualifications do not always point to a good presidency (Bush Jr, Johnson, and Nixon) and the fact that Americans were not looking for another politician or business man to run the country. Frankly I could give a **** about his qualifications at this point because he is in office and no one is going to take it out. This is like arguing about the sky being blue and why it should be orange instead.


I voted Obama because he was the best option available, but I did so knowing he was not the ideal candidate. Unlike a lot of people here, I haven't decided who to vote for in the next election (my life savings says dbair will vote for whatever pony the Republicans trot in front of the polls) but I hope we have some better options than we did last time.
 

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Here is a blog from a Chicago-Tribune writer comparing Obama to Hillary before the election.

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2007/01/is_barack_obama.html

Key points:



He also points out how qualifications do not always point to a good presidency (Bush Jr, Johnson, and Nixon) and the fact that Americans were not looking for another politician or business man to run the country. Frankly I could give a **** about his qualifications at this point because he is in office and no one is going to take it out. This is like arguing about the sky being blue and why it should be orange instead.


I voted Obama because he was the best option available, but I did so knowing he was not the ideal candidate. Unlike a lot of people here, I haven't decided who to vote for in the next election (my life savings says dbair will vote for whatever pony the Republicans trot in front of the polls) but I hope we have some better options than we did last time.

A blog. from Chicago nonetheless. And, it still means nothing. Sure, he may of "helped" families,but, he ain't helping shit now. Yes, he is in office, doesn't mean that he should remain in office. And, with your help, he more than likely will remain. His qualifications are trivial still. But, hell, you are right . At this point, he is the so called "leader" of this country.

Quincy Carter was a "leader" by some at one point too.

Means nothing.

Obama means nothing and even though a repuke that the repukes put out in opposition, Still wouldn't of brought us down this path. Regardless of repukes or dems. We are on a ****ed road because of both parties.

No doubt that both parties gave us anyone to really vote for. A middle of the road wanna be conservative in McCain with no backbone, and a socialist pig that deep down inside hates what America stands for.

Or, what it used to stand for.

I went looking for some better examples of the" 20 yrs of stuff" Obama has done. Not much. Just words, Like he accuses the other nimrod, Hillary about in this article of sort.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/mar/07/obamas-20-years-experience/

Same shit. NONE of the candidates of the last election were qualified because of their character sucking balls.


W. Bush atleast would be a great guy to kick back with, snort a line and have a beer with.

I don't get that from Obama. I didn't like voting for W for his last term, but, against Kerry, he was the better choice. I can relate with your decision. It just sucks that nobody really cares about the issues worth voting for.
 
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Obama is clearly the least qualified candidate to ever be President and the only way he ever got elected was due to the blind hope and change crowd. Hey, let's vote a simple teleprompter slogan.
 
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Not to be racist in any way, it was intriguing to the blacks and minorities to have the first black President. It was a huge part of the reason Obama was elected.
 
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