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I'd like to post how much I love the three + days of what we did (3 days of draft plus UDFA) but like a lot of people, came away somewhat underwhelmed. Its not that I think those guys suck or have no chance to be anything, but I thought there were clearly a couple picks we could have come away with more impressive guys than who we ended up selecting.

1) The RB thing obviously will be the story from the weekend and will probably continue to be one on throughout the offseason & preseason etc etc until they make a move. Especially now that its rumored Joseph Randle is going to get suspended for up to 6 games. I think the final tally was nearly 20 RB's drafted in the 3 days, and not one was by us. The Adrian Peterson speculation is probably going to dominate the remainder of the offseason and possibly right up to the trade deadline. Then you have Cris Carter fanning the flames a little by announcing he is fairly certain Peterson is going to be traded and citing sources within the Vikes organization. CC doesn't seem like a guy that's full of shit and I'm sure he does have some pretty credible sources in Minny. Of course that doesn't mean he'll be traded here, could be any number of places.

2) This draft, especially in the short term will be all about he first two picks. Both guys were highly rated on our board (per reports) and both guys help address major areas of concern. Sounds like they intend to start Jones at CB and go from there, but he might be better eventually at FS. If Gregory keeps himself straight getting him where we did is probably grand larceny type steal territory. Along with Hardy, Lawrence and Crawford, we now have several guys who can get in the backfield and disrupt QB's. Hard to argue against picking Jones and even though Gregory is a substantial risk at #60, you almost have to take him there considering what our biggest issues are defensively. (impotent pass rush)

3) I was surprised we passed on the RB's at the end of round three, but I do think Chaz Green will serve a valuable role and be an improvement over the doormats that are Hills, Hawkins and Weems. None of those should be on this roster. Still, had I been drafting I think I would have went for CB Steve Nelson (he went 98th), RB Javorious Allen or maybe even QB Bryce Petty and tried to get Green a little later.

4) I don't hate the LB we picked in the 4th, we obviously have some issues there. None of those free agent guys we signed are all that exciting and McClain & lee cant be trusted to be out there for 16 games. In fact for both its possible this could be their last years here. But I definitely think Grady Jarrett or Rashad Green would have been better picks.

5) This Lael Collins thing could be interesting if he is cleared. Supposedly we are 1 of 3 teams very interested in signing him. He could probably win the starting LG job this yr and maybe swing to RT next season, or maybe he stays at LG and gives us one of the best interior OL's in recent memory. He is a really strong run blocker and would improve an already outstanding OL. ith an OL of T Smith, Collins, Frederick, Martin and Free we probably could turn guys like Randle or Ryan Williams into big time producers.

6) I'm not much for assigning grades (or any real credibility into them) on drafts until at least a couple yrs in, but if I graded this one today I'd say C or C-. If Jones and Gregory are hits, its a potential coup and could have a huge impact on our 2015 chances to advance further in the postseason though.

The last 4 picks we made were not exciting at all. I do think that 7th pick Gibson is a nice developmental OL and at least he has some upside instead of those hanger on-ers like Weems. Some hate the idea of trading back into the 7th to grab that TE prospect, but by all accounts he is a strong run blocker and if so, there's a role for him here. I don't know anything about the LB from Wyoming but it sounds like the practice squad is his best case scenario, and I believe I read he is an older than normal rookie as well. Not sure that warrants wasting a pick on. DE Ryan Russell seems to have a lot of positive traits from a physical stand point, but the production hasn't really been there. Looks like he is going to be challenging Ben Gardner (7th rd pick last yr, missed entire season) for the last DE spot perhaps.

I really wanted one of those top RB's though, hopefully passing on them doesn't come back to bite us in the ass. I also thought we should have maybe spent another pick on the CB position.
 

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It was a nothing fancy, pretty much meat and taters draft, heavier on the taters. Could easily though be considered one of Dallas' best drafts, if the first three picks become stellar starters.

I'm not too negative on it actually. Time will tell.
 

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We started out on fire and then completely shit the bed.

Anthony Hitchens may have been the worst thing that could have happened to us. It apparently convinced this front office that they are smarter than everyone else.

Jones will be solid, Gregory could be a monster. The rest, with the exception of the VA Tech tackle, were 2 round reaches.
 

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Anthony Hitchens may have been the worst thing that could have happened to us. It apparently convinced this front office that they are smarter than everyone else.

:lol

I was thinking the exact same thing. Gave the homers hope and Jerry an "I told you so" moment. He had a promising year, but he was also a ref's reversal from being the goat of a playoff game, but we're not supposed to remember that.
 

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Jones seemed like the safe pick but I would have preferred Malcom Brown at that spot. Gregory is so boom or bust it isn't even funny. I'm curious to how the team will use him, glad we took him in the 2nd. Chaz Green should see significant snaps in short yardage and hopefully make Free expendable after this year. After that the draft is a crap shoot. Hopefully the players we picked develop and help this team out.
 
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I was convinced we were going CB for months leading up to the draft, and had hopes it would've either been Jones or Kevin Johnson from Wake Forest. We got Jones, so I'm okay with that. Don't love the pick, but honestly there wasn't a player there that I had my hopes up for.

Loved the Gregory selection. I hope he pans out. I don't trust players with weed issues because if you know what the stakes are, and you're still stupid enough to use such a moronic, non-addicting drug anyways... well, how can you really be trusted. Unsure about all the reports of Bipolar adn shit. But hell, we could use a little crazy on defense.

After that, I was really uninspired. I don't understand why we devalue the DT position so much. We passed on a number of chances to add talent there.

Don't understand the adding two linebackers, especially after adding Brinkley and that other guy from San Diego last year. Getting Lee back, McClain back, etc. I think we have about 15 linebackers on our roster, which is retardedly high for a 4-3.

I guess I can't hate the fact we went OT in round three, and aren't just resting on our laurels after all the praise we got for our OL. But I don't know how a part time player with an injury history is really going to be that useful to us. I wouldve rather takent La'El Collings in the 6th.

The seventh round trade was a waste. Hated that pick. Don't think he makes the team. Don't get what value he adds. He's too one dimensional. When he's on the field, it screams "RUN."
 

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Loved the Gregory selection. I hope he pans out. I don't trust players with weed issues because if you know what the stakes are, and you're still stupid enough to use such a moronic, non-addicting drug anyways...
It's definitely addicting. Any substance that makes your brain produce more dopamine is. To the point where he would still use it knowing it could cost him $9 million.
 

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It's definitely addicting. Any substance that makes your brain produce more dopamine is. To the point where he would still use it knowing it could cost him $9 million.

IIRC Mark Stepnoski was a major weed head I believe. I think he even admitted it and said he used it throughout his career.

Obviously its just one example, but his level of play was never impacted by it at all. He was one of the better C's in the game.
 

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IIRC Mark Stepnoski was a major weed head I believe. I think he even admitted it and said he used it throughout his career.

Obviously its just one example, but his level of play was never impacted by it at all. He was one of the better C's in the game.

were they testing and banning pothead players back then? it's not Gregory's level of play that concerns people; it's his availability.
 

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What's concerning is that he got busted pre-draft for weed.

Hope he isn't Aldon Smith part 2. Although an Aldon Smith type rookie year from him would be nice.
 

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were they testing and banning pothead players back then? it's not Gregory's level of play that concerns people; it's his availability.

fair point, I am not sure and defintiely valid concern
 

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IIRC Mark Stepnoski was a major weed head I believe. I think he even admitted it and said he used it throughout his career.

Obviously its just one example, but his level of play was never impacted by it at all. He was one of the better C's in the game.
I didn't say anything about anyone's level of play.

But had they been testing for weed back when Step was playing I am quite sure he would have been intelligent enough to knock it off when he knew a scheduled test was coming.

You understand - Gregory KNEW a test for the combine was coming, then for the draft, and couldn't stop even for that and even with knowledge that failing those tests might cost him 9 million freaking dollars. Which IS about the difference between being chosen in the top ten of the draft, and being chosen #60.

He preferred to get high rather than make the extra 9 million. What's that tell you?
 
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I wish they would just legalize marijuana already. Some dudes need it to help them calm the fuck down. It has a medical use to it. I dont see how its any worse than drinking alcohol and smoking.
 

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I didn't say anything about anyone's level of play.

But had they been testing for weed back when Step was playing I am quite sure he would have been intelligent enough to knock it off when he knew a scheduled test was coming.

You understand - Gregory KNEW a test for the combine was coming, then for the draft, and couldn't stop even for that and even with knowledge that failing those tests might cost him 9 million freaking dollars. Which IS about the difference between being chosen in the top ten of the draft, and being chosen #60.

He preferred to get high rather than make the extra 9 million. What's that tell you?
That's exactly why everyone said he had issues beyond using some weed. Tons of kids use some weed and if that's all it was, he wouldn't have been penalized nearly as much as he was -- just like Shane Ray wasn't.

I would bet he really is bipolar or has clinical anxiety issues. Who knows if they can solve it or not.
 

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I wish they would just legalize marijuana already. Some dudes need it to help them calm the fuck down. It has a medical use to it. I dont see how its any worse than drinking alcohol and smoking.
Let's see. Whether it is "legal" or not has absolutely zero to do with the NFL's substance abuse policy. It will STILL be tested for whether it is legal or not. Alcohol is too along with a plethora of "legal" substances.

The POINT is, this idiot doofus made a choice to get high knowing the cost would be around 9 million fucking dollars when he flunked scheduled tests he knew about, months in advance. These tests weren't spot checks, or surprise checks.

STUPID people do that. Intelligent ones make the right choices, and you can REASON with them. I don't care that he smokes weed. I care that he is this STUPID.
 

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I would bet he really is bipolar or has clinical anxiety issues. Who knows if they can solve it or not.

There really is not much doubt about that.

If anyone is saying it is ~gasp~ weed "addiction" with this guy, they don't know what the eff they are talking about.
 
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