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pressure is on the players now
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Ayuh, just heard that. All they needed was 24 votes out of the 32.
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31 owners voted for it. Al Davis was the 1 vote against it. lol
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The vote was 31-0...
The Raiders abstained........
The Raiders abstained........
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Now they're saying the players may not even vote on it tonight. It's still up in the air.
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Jerruh is LIVE on NFL Network. Whoopee!!!
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I've been disinterested in this whole process up to now so maybe this has already been discussed so bear with me: If the players vote tonight and approve the new CBA, will the owners lift the lockout immediately or are there other issues that need to be cleared prior to that?
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They just cancelled the Hall Of Fame Game.
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Figures.
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I kinda thought this was coming.
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Yes, Goodell just said team facilities will open Saturday. Free agency will start with their own players immediately and then about a week later free agency will start with the other free agents.
As long as the players vote and agree on this. Which they think they will.
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This is viewing live on NFL Network for those of you who are in front of a television.
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Owners approve proposed labor deal
Updated: July 21, 2011, 7:27 PM ET
Owners approve proposed labor deal
ESPN.com news services
NFL owners voted to approve the proposed labor agreement with the NFL Players Association on Thursday, putting the potential end of the league's lockout in the hands of the players -- who might vote on the proposed deal Thursday night.
According to sources, owners voted 31-0 to accept the proposed 10-year collective bargaining agreement, with the Oakland Raiders abstaining. Sources told ESPN.com's John Clayton that the owners have notified the players they would accept this deal contingent on all union matters being resolved next week, and the players' association being reconstituted as a union.
The likely start of training camps is estimated to be Aug. 1, sources said.
Commissioner Roger Goodell announced at a news conference in Atlanta shortly after the completion of the vote that the league has canceled the Aug. 7 Hall of Fame preseason game between the St. Louis Rams and Chicago Bears.
Goodell said team training facilities would open Saturday and the new league year would begin next Wednesday, contingent on the NFLPA's recertification.
NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith and Goodell on Thursday were working to impose certain conditions to immediately lift the lockout if the two sides approve a deal tonight, according to sources.
Shortly after results of the owners' vote was announced, Smith told ESPN that team representatives would examine the agreement.
Earlier Thursday, the NFLPA had scheduled an 8 p.m. ET conference call with its executive committee and player reps to decide whether to accept an approved settlement from owners, and how to start the voting process for the 1,900 players who have to decide if they want to vote in a recertified union.
NFLPA sources say league lawyers Bob Batterman and Gregg Levy were pushing for the condition that the lockout remain in effect until the players recertify as a union. However, there was more dialogue between Goodell and Smith throughout the day to build a trust that in the event the players approve the agreement later Thursday, the lockout could be immediately lifted if the players also agree to re-certify as a union.
Players then would begin the process of acquiring enough player signatures to begin the recertification process, which would allow the 10-year agreement to formally become a collective bargaining agreement. Under that scenario, the league would open facilities so the players could use them to discuss the matter and get signed union cards as early as Friday.
Smith said the decision to recertify as a union wouldn't be taken lightly, just as the choice to decertify in March was taken seriously "because we were a real union" -- taking a shot at owners' claims that the NFLPA's decertification was a "sham."
"The decision to decertify as a union was a significant one," Smith said. "Every individual person has to make a decision on whether they want to become part of a union. The individual decisions are something that our players take extremely serious."
The players were unable to negotiate a one-time only application of the franchise tag, which is something that was of particular interest to the plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL antitrust case.
An NFLPA official said: "Are we happy with that result? No. Is it worth hanging up a deal with 1,900 players? No. The tag has had very few multiple uses and does carry some financial rewards for players. Not allowing more transition tags, via right of first refusal, was a big victory. That would have impact more free agents than franchise tags."
Information from ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton and ESPN national correspondent Sal Paolantonio was used in this report
Updated: July 21, 2011, 7:27 PM ET
Owners approve proposed labor deal
ESPN.com news services
NFL owners voted to approve the proposed labor agreement with the NFL Players Association on Thursday, putting the potential end of the league's lockout in the hands of the players -- who might vote on the proposed deal Thursday night.
According to sources, owners voted 31-0 to accept the proposed 10-year collective bargaining agreement, with the Oakland Raiders abstaining. Sources told ESPN.com's John Clayton that the owners have notified the players they would accept this deal contingent on all union matters being resolved next week, and the players' association being reconstituted as a union.
The likely start of training camps is estimated to be Aug. 1, sources said.
Commissioner Roger Goodell announced at a news conference in Atlanta shortly after the completion of the vote that the league has canceled the Aug. 7 Hall of Fame preseason game between the St. Louis Rams and Chicago Bears.
Goodell said team training facilities would open Saturday and the new league year would begin next Wednesday, contingent on the NFLPA's recertification.
NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith and Goodell on Thursday were working to impose certain conditions to immediately lift the lockout if the two sides approve a deal tonight, according to sources.
Shortly after results of the owners' vote was announced, Smith told ESPN that team representatives would examine the agreement.
Earlier Thursday, the NFLPA had scheduled an 8 p.m. ET conference call with its executive committee and player reps to decide whether to accept an approved settlement from owners, and how to start the voting process for the 1,900 players who have to decide if they want to vote in a recertified union.
NFLPA sources say league lawyers Bob Batterman and Gregg Levy were pushing for the condition that the lockout remain in effect until the players recertify as a union. However, there was more dialogue between Goodell and Smith throughout the day to build a trust that in the event the players approve the agreement later Thursday, the lockout could be immediately lifted if the players also agree to re-certify as a union.
Players then would begin the process of acquiring enough player signatures to begin the recertification process, which would allow the 10-year agreement to formally become a collective bargaining agreement. Under that scenario, the league would open facilities so the players could use them to discuss the matter and get signed union cards as early as Friday.
Smith said the decision to recertify as a union wouldn't be taken lightly, just as the choice to decertify in March was taken seriously "because we were a real union" -- taking a shot at owners' claims that the NFLPA's decertification was a "sham."
"The decision to decertify as a union was a significant one," Smith said. "Every individual person has to make a decision on whether they want to become part of a union. The individual decisions are something that our players take extremely serious."
The players were unable to negotiate a one-time only application of the franchise tag, which is something that was of particular interest to the plaintiffs in the Brady vs. NFL antitrust case.
An NFLPA official said: "Are we happy with that result? No. Is it worth hanging up a deal with 1,900 players? No. The tag has had very few multiple uses and does carry some financial rewards for players. Not allowing more transition tags, via right of first refusal, was a big victory. That would have impact more free agents than franchise tags."
Information from ESPN senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen, ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, ESPN.com senior NFL writer John Clayton and ESPN national correspondent Sal Paolantonio was used in this report
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Rosters are expanded to a 90 man limit now.
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They feel pretty confident that the players will accept the proposal. It's told to be a fair deal between both sides. 50/50.
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Thanks, CR.
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Nice. Monday will be the signing of undrafted free agents if the players accept.
This should be ratified by tonight. 50% of the players should vote yes on this.
Looks like there's football after all this year. Thank God we don't have to hear about this shit for another 10 fucking years.
This should be ratified by tonight. 50% of the players should vote yes on this.
Looks like there's football after all this year. Thank God we don't have to hear about this shit for another 10 fucking years.
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No problem. I'm watching it, so I figured I would share what they're saying.
we're just waiting on the players now. It looks legit.