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Season over for all intents and purposes.
This season was laid at their feet to make it back to Atlanta for the first time in forever and they fall flat.
This team is beyond lucky just to be above .500. He's not an SEC caliber coach and every passing game just proves it more and more. He'll survive for a little while longer but as this team plateaus into just a middle tier SEC caliber team 1-2 more years then hopefully the powers that be pull the plug. When his time comes I hope the boosters / chancellor / president / athletic director realize it takes a big checkbook to bring in a competent coach to get this program truly headed in the right direction.
I guess he'll get another year, but with a young QB and unproven talent at a number of positions, it'll be another 3-4 loss season so I don't know what exactly we'll learn from another season with him.
Like you said, this year was the year we were supposed to head back to the SEC title game. I get we have injuries, but UMass just hung 28 on SC last week and we can't even muster as much? Our back ups are worse than UMass?
He's left us in a better position than what he found us, which is better than what I can say for Kiffin and Dooley, but he just isn't a good coach, Dobbs isn't a very good passer, and our OC is bland and unimaginative.
Like you said, this year was the year we were supposed to head back to the SEC title game. I get we have injuries, but UMass just hung 28 on SC last week and we can't even muster as much? Our back ups are worse than UMass?
He's left us in a better position than what he found us, which is better than what I can say for Kiffin and Dooley, but he just isn't a good coach, Dobbs isn't a very good passer, and our OC is bland and unimaginative.
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Butch Jones = snake oil salesman.
Said it when they hired him that we went from a 5-7 coach to a 7-5 coach. With 4 games remaining I would love to see them lose at least 2 more just to see the heat turned up more on his backside. After last nights deplorable effort I hope fans truly see what is steering this ship.
Said it when they hired him that we went from a 5-7 coach to a 7-5 coach. With 4 games remaining I would love to see them lose at least 2 more just to see the heat turned up more on his backside. After last nights deplorable effort I hope fans truly see what is steering this ship.
Vols leading rusher Jalen Hurd reportedly leaving program
Tennessee running back Jalen Hurd plans to transfer next season as well as learn a newposition.
WNML-Radio in Knoxville reported Monday that Hurd informed teammates of his decision, including his desire to play wide receiver or tight end.
Sources: Tennessee running back Jalen Hurd told teammates last night he plans to transfer and play receiver or tight end at his new school
— Jimmy Hyams (@JimmyHyams) October 31, 2016
Hurd has been upset at the way he has been used in Tennessee's zone-read scheme
— Jimmy Hyams (@JimmyHyams) October 31, 2016
Hurd, 6-4, 240 pounds, has rushed for 451 yards this season, well off the pace he set in 2015 when the then-sophomore rushed for almost 1,300 yards. The report said Hurd is not happy with the Vols' zone-read rushing scheme. He ranks sixth on the all-time Vols rushing list with 2,638 career yards.
Tennessee running back Jalen Hurd plans to transfer next season as well as learn a newposition.
WNML-Radio in Knoxville reported Monday that Hurd informed teammates of his decision, including his desire to play wide receiver or tight end.
Sources: Tennessee running back Jalen Hurd told teammates last night he plans to transfer and play receiver or tight end at his new school
— Jimmy Hyams (@JimmyHyams) October 31, 2016
Hurd has been upset at the way he has been used in Tennessee's zone-read scheme
— Jimmy Hyams (@JimmyHyams) October 31, 2016
Hurd, 6-4, 240 pounds, has rushed for 451 yards this season, well off the pace he set in 2015 when the then-sophomore rushed for almost 1,300 yards. The report said Hurd is not happy with the Vols' zone-read rushing scheme. He ranks sixth on the all-time Vols rushing list with 2,638 career yards.
Tennessee football: Projecting the Volunteers’ 2017 recruiting class
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — What will Tennessee’s recruiting class look like on National Signing Day?
Close to three months away, it remains a tricky proposition to project any class — especially one as fluid as the Volunteers.
As it currently stands, Tennessee already has 26 commits, yet the Vols are still actively targeting upward of 8-to-10 blue-chip prospects.
Something has to give.
When the first Wednesday in February rolls around, Tennessee will sign between 25-27 recruits.
In the exercise below, I’ve listed 33 names.
Why?
At this juncture, it wouldn’t be appropriate for me to straight up cross off a prospect’s name from a commit list when that decision hasn’t officially happened yet. I’m not burning a kid.
Again, Tennessee’s class is fluid. Things will change.
*** Indicates current Tennessee commit
QUARTERBACK
*** 3-star recruit CJ Lewis (Cheshire Academy, Conn.)
3-star recruit Bubba Thompson (McGill Toolen, Ala.)
Note: Tennessee will only take one quarterback in 2017. The Volunteers have had a tough time landing a 2017 signal caller (missing on Hunter Johnson, Jack Sears and N’Kosi Perry) after bringing in Jarret Guarantano last cycle. Lewis has been committed since late July but has had an inconsistent senior season. The Volunteers recently extended an offer to Thompson, a budding prospect who is deciding between playing either baseball or football.
RUNNING BACK
*** 4-star recruit Ty Chandler (Montgomery Bell Academy, Tenn.)
*** 3-star recruit Trey Coleman (West Monroe, La.)
Note: Both are longtime commits. Chandler is a stud from the Midstate and should come in and compete for carries immediately at Tennessee. The 5-foot-11, 195-pound tailback has 31 touchdowns this season and is among the more explosive runners in the nation. Coleman is more of an athlete and grinder, but he gives the Volunteers added depth at the position.
TIGHT END
*** 3-star recruit Chase Rogers (St. Stanislaus, Miss.)
*** 3-star recruit James Brown (Jones, Fla.)
Note: The Volunteers just received a commitment from Brown, a recently converted quarterback with an intriguing skill set. Rogers has put up record numbers this season and continues to hear from in-state Ole Miss, as well as other schools. It remains to be seen how many tight ends Tennessee ultimately takes, especially since LaTrell Bumphus (see below) could play offense for the Volunteers.
WIDE RECEIVER
*** 3-star recruit Jordan Murphy (Hattiesburg, Miss.)
*** 3-star recruit Princeton Fant (LaVergne, Tenn.)
*** 3-star recruit Jacquez Jones (Clearwater, Fla.)
3-star recruit JaVonta Payton (Hillsboro, Tenn.)
Note: Payton has been on Tennessee’s radar for a while, but the in-state wideout hasn’t received the attention that some of its other priority targets have. Murphy has delivered a monster senior season (more than 1,500 yards and 21 touchdowns), while Jones has put up big numbers, too. Both prospects still have some work to do in the classroom. Fant is an unbelievable athlete who has battled injury problems his entire high school career.
Jeremiah Holloman remains a top target at the position, but Georgia still holds the edge. It will be interesting to watch the recruitment of both Jaylen Harris (Cleveland Heights, Ohio) and Florida State commit D.J. Matthews (Trinity Christian Academy, Fla.) over the next six weeks, too.
OFFENSIVE LINE
*** 3-star recruit Riley Locklear (Spring Valley, W.Va.)
5-star recruit Trey Smith (University School, Tenn.)
3-star recruit K’Rojhn Calbert (Warren County, Tenn.)
4-star recruit T.J. Moore (Mallard Creek, N.C.)
Note: Locklear, a versatile lineman in a similar mold to Volunteers junior Coleman Thomas, is Tennessee’s lone commit right now. But the Volunteers have trended with Smith for months and remain in the driver’s seat to land the in-state tackle. Smith is the biggest fish still out there for Tennessee.
Calbert recently earned an offer from the Volunteers and could officially jump on board by December. Moore de-committed from South Carolina after picking the Gamecocks over the Volunteers in August. He visited Tennessee several weeks ago and will take an official visit to Knoxville later in the year.
ATHLETE
*** 4-star recruit CJ Cotman (Clearwater Central Catholic, Fla.)
*** 3-star recruit Marquez Bembry (Mount Vernon Presbyterian, Ga.)
Note: Both longtime commits. Cotman was initially recruited to play cornerback, but it seems like the explosive playmaker is more likely to start on the offensive side of the football for Tennessee. Bembry is recovering from a knee injury and projects as a defensive lineman.
DEFENSIVE LINE
*** 3-star recruit LaTrell Bumphus (Hardin County, Tenn.)
*** 4-star recruit Breyon Gaddy (Bishop Sullivan Catholic, Va.)
*** 4-star recruit Eric Crosby (Ocean Lakes, Va.)
*** 3-star recruit Brandon Gaddy (Bishop Sullivan Catholic, Va.)
*** 3-star recruit Kivon Bennett (St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla.)
*** 3-star recruit Tre Lawson (North Augusta, S.C.)
3-star recruit Matthew Butler (Garner, N.C.)
Note: A deep group, as Tennessee really needs to restock the cupboard along the defensive line. The Volunteers have aggressively recruited Butler for a while, and remain in solid shape. Crosby, as well as Breyon Gaddy, are potential instant impact guys. Brandon Gaddy is an athletic body who could play a variety of positions for the Volunteers. The twins still have some schoolwork to do, though.
Lawson is probably the most underrated guy in the entire group. He has good size (6-6, 250), long arms and plays with an active, nonstop motor. As previously mentioned, Bumphus could ultimately play tight end at Tennessee, so another name (say Malik Young or Aaron Sterling) could be added to this list closer to signing day. Tennessee still is in the mix for 4-star prospect LaBryan Ray, but he remains a very, very tough pull out of Alabama.
LINEBACKER
*** 3-star recruit Jaquan Henderson (Newton, Ga.)
*** 4-star recruit Will Ignont (Buckhorn, Ala.)
*** 3-star recruit Solon Page III (Kell, Ga.)
*** 3-star recruit Mo Burnam (Salem, Ga.)
Note: Tennessee has room for just three linebackers, so something will eventually give here. Ignont was a big get just last week, landing the thumper out of Auburn’s backyard. Henderson and Page are two athletic, versatile prospects who could play outside linebacker or a hybrid nickel role for Tennessee.
DEFENSIVE BACK
*** 4-star recruit Maleik Gray (LaVergne, Tenn.)
*** 3-star recruit Theo Jackson (Overton, Tenn.)
*** 3-star recruit Cheyenne Labruzza (Albany, La.)
*** 3-star recruit Terrell Bailey (John Ehret, La.)
3-star recruit Yusuf Corker (Woodland, Ga.)
Note: Obviously the notable name missing here is 5-star cornerback Lamont Wade. I don’t think Tennessee’s chances have changed for the top-50 prospect.
The Vols are definitely one of Wade’s top schools, but pulling the blue-chip recruit out of the Keystone State — away from legitimate options in Pittsburgh and Penn State — was always going to be very difficult. Unless Wade visits Tennessee a fourth time, I don’t see him ending up in this class.
Now, Corker is player, too, and has the frame to come in and compete for a spot right away. Jackson and Gray both have serious upsides, while Labruzza flashed as Tennessee’s diamond in the rough before re-injuring his meniscus. The Volunteers would love to add top-50 prospect Deangelo Gibbs or 4-star cornerback Christopher Henderson, but they trail a pair of East Division rivals for both prospects.
KICKER
*** 3-star recruit Brent Cimaglia (Fred J Page, TN)
Note: The in-state kicker has 32 touchbacks this season. He’s perfect on extra points (27 for 27) but just 5 of 9 on field goals.
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — What will Tennessee’s recruiting class look like on National Signing Day?
Close to three months away, it remains a tricky proposition to project any class — especially one as fluid as the Volunteers.
As it currently stands, Tennessee already has 26 commits, yet the Vols are still actively targeting upward of 8-to-10 blue-chip prospects.
Something has to give.
When the first Wednesday in February rolls around, Tennessee will sign between 25-27 recruits.
In the exercise below, I’ve listed 33 names.
Why?
At this juncture, it wouldn’t be appropriate for me to straight up cross off a prospect’s name from a commit list when that decision hasn’t officially happened yet. I’m not burning a kid.
Again, Tennessee’s class is fluid. Things will change.
*** Indicates current Tennessee commit
QUARTERBACK
*** 3-star recruit CJ Lewis (Cheshire Academy, Conn.)
3-star recruit Bubba Thompson (McGill Toolen, Ala.)
Note: Tennessee will only take one quarterback in 2017. The Volunteers have had a tough time landing a 2017 signal caller (missing on Hunter Johnson, Jack Sears and N’Kosi Perry) after bringing in Jarret Guarantano last cycle. Lewis has been committed since late July but has had an inconsistent senior season. The Volunteers recently extended an offer to Thompson, a budding prospect who is deciding between playing either baseball or football.
RUNNING BACK
*** 4-star recruit Ty Chandler (Montgomery Bell Academy, Tenn.)
*** 3-star recruit Trey Coleman (West Monroe, La.)
Note: Both are longtime commits. Chandler is a stud from the Midstate and should come in and compete for carries immediately at Tennessee. The 5-foot-11, 195-pound tailback has 31 touchdowns this season and is among the more explosive runners in the nation. Coleman is more of an athlete and grinder, but he gives the Volunteers added depth at the position.
TIGHT END
*** 3-star recruit Chase Rogers (St. Stanislaus, Miss.)
*** 3-star recruit James Brown (Jones, Fla.)
Note: The Volunteers just received a commitment from Brown, a recently converted quarterback with an intriguing skill set. Rogers has put up record numbers this season and continues to hear from in-state Ole Miss, as well as other schools. It remains to be seen how many tight ends Tennessee ultimately takes, especially since LaTrell Bumphus (see below) could play offense for the Volunteers.
WIDE RECEIVER
*** 3-star recruit Jordan Murphy (Hattiesburg, Miss.)
*** 3-star recruit Princeton Fant (LaVergne, Tenn.)
*** 3-star recruit Jacquez Jones (Clearwater, Fla.)
3-star recruit JaVonta Payton (Hillsboro, Tenn.)
Note: Payton has been on Tennessee’s radar for a while, but the in-state wideout hasn’t received the attention that some of its other priority targets have. Murphy has delivered a monster senior season (more than 1,500 yards and 21 touchdowns), while Jones has put up big numbers, too. Both prospects still have some work to do in the classroom. Fant is an unbelievable athlete who has battled injury problems his entire high school career.
Jeremiah Holloman remains a top target at the position, but Georgia still holds the edge. It will be interesting to watch the recruitment of both Jaylen Harris (Cleveland Heights, Ohio) and Florida State commit D.J. Matthews (Trinity Christian Academy, Fla.) over the next six weeks, too.
OFFENSIVE LINE
*** 3-star recruit Riley Locklear (Spring Valley, W.Va.)
5-star recruit Trey Smith (University School, Tenn.)
3-star recruit K’Rojhn Calbert (Warren County, Tenn.)
4-star recruit T.J. Moore (Mallard Creek, N.C.)
Note: Locklear, a versatile lineman in a similar mold to Volunteers junior Coleman Thomas, is Tennessee’s lone commit right now. But the Volunteers have trended with Smith for months and remain in the driver’s seat to land the in-state tackle. Smith is the biggest fish still out there for Tennessee.
Calbert recently earned an offer from the Volunteers and could officially jump on board by December. Moore de-committed from South Carolina after picking the Gamecocks over the Volunteers in August. He visited Tennessee several weeks ago and will take an official visit to Knoxville later in the year.
ATHLETE
*** 4-star recruit CJ Cotman (Clearwater Central Catholic, Fla.)
*** 3-star recruit Marquez Bembry (Mount Vernon Presbyterian, Ga.)
Note: Both longtime commits. Cotman was initially recruited to play cornerback, but it seems like the explosive playmaker is more likely to start on the offensive side of the football for Tennessee. Bembry is recovering from a knee injury and projects as a defensive lineman.
DEFENSIVE LINE
*** 3-star recruit LaTrell Bumphus (Hardin County, Tenn.)
*** 4-star recruit Breyon Gaddy (Bishop Sullivan Catholic, Va.)
*** 4-star recruit Eric Crosby (Ocean Lakes, Va.)
*** 3-star recruit Brandon Gaddy (Bishop Sullivan Catholic, Va.)
*** 3-star recruit Kivon Bennett (St. Thomas Aquinas, Fla.)
*** 3-star recruit Tre Lawson (North Augusta, S.C.)
3-star recruit Matthew Butler (Garner, N.C.)
Note: A deep group, as Tennessee really needs to restock the cupboard along the defensive line. The Volunteers have aggressively recruited Butler for a while, and remain in solid shape. Crosby, as well as Breyon Gaddy, are potential instant impact guys. Brandon Gaddy is an athletic body who could play a variety of positions for the Volunteers. The twins still have some schoolwork to do, though.
Lawson is probably the most underrated guy in the entire group. He has good size (6-6, 250), long arms and plays with an active, nonstop motor. As previously mentioned, Bumphus could ultimately play tight end at Tennessee, so another name (say Malik Young or Aaron Sterling) could be added to this list closer to signing day. Tennessee still is in the mix for 4-star prospect LaBryan Ray, but he remains a very, very tough pull out of Alabama.
LINEBACKER
*** 3-star recruit Jaquan Henderson (Newton, Ga.)
*** 4-star recruit Will Ignont (Buckhorn, Ala.)
*** 3-star recruit Solon Page III (Kell, Ga.)
*** 3-star recruit Mo Burnam (Salem, Ga.)
Note: Tennessee has room for just three linebackers, so something will eventually give here. Ignont was a big get just last week, landing the thumper out of Auburn’s backyard. Henderson and Page are two athletic, versatile prospects who could play outside linebacker or a hybrid nickel role for Tennessee.
DEFENSIVE BACK
*** 4-star recruit Maleik Gray (LaVergne, Tenn.)
*** 3-star recruit Theo Jackson (Overton, Tenn.)
*** 3-star recruit Cheyenne Labruzza (Albany, La.)
*** 3-star recruit Terrell Bailey (John Ehret, La.)
3-star recruit Yusuf Corker (Woodland, Ga.)
Note: Obviously the notable name missing here is 5-star cornerback Lamont Wade. I don’t think Tennessee’s chances have changed for the top-50 prospect.
The Vols are definitely one of Wade’s top schools, but pulling the blue-chip recruit out of the Keystone State — away from legitimate options in Pittsburgh and Penn State — was always going to be very difficult. Unless Wade visits Tennessee a fourth time, I don’t see him ending up in this class.
Now, Corker is player, too, and has the frame to come in and compete for a spot right away. Jackson and Gray both have serious upsides, while Labruzza flashed as Tennessee’s diamond in the rough before re-injuring his meniscus. The Volunteers would love to add top-50 prospect Deangelo Gibbs or 4-star cornerback Christopher Henderson, but they trail a pair of East Division rivals for both prospects.
KICKER
*** 3-star recruit Brent Cimaglia (Fred J Page, TN)
Note: The in-state kicker has 32 touchbacks this season. He’s perfect on extra points (27 for 27) but just 5 of 9 on field goals.
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Is his job in jeopardy, or would they still have to eat too much money?
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This kid was highly recruited coming out highschool but for whatever reason things have never materialized and he has been virtually invisible.
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His seat is luke warm. This university has wasted so much resources / money on the failed Kiffin & Dooley hires they would be gun shy to send he and his worthless cliches out the door yet. It's coming but we'll waste another year or three of SEC mediocrity before the boosters and outside pressure demand a change.
I just can't believe what a disappointment this year was. I mean, I didn't think we'd win the National Championship or anything, but this year did have a sense of some kind of destiny. The comeback wins... even the improbable ones like UGA.... for it to end like it has... 7 turnovers against A&M, getting destroyed by UA, then dropping a game to SC.... Very frustrating.
Next year we're losing a lot of talent. Dobbs is inconsistent so maybe losing him isn't that bad of a thing. Losing Kamara hurts big time, if he goes. Same with Barnett. Same with Reeves-Maybin.
Hard to be optimistic about next year. We could finish 3rd or 4th in the East.
Next year we're losing a lot of talent. Dobbs is inconsistent so maybe losing him isn't that bad of a thing. Losing Kamara hurts big time, if he goes. Same with Barnett. Same with Reeves-Maybin.
Hard to be optimistic about next year. We could finish 3rd or 4th in the East.
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He'll stick around for at least another year. It will give him another year to turn around this program back in the wrong direction.
It's so obvious he is in over his head in this conference. He's a jackass and coaches like one.
Can't wait to hear him amp up the Piggly Wiggly Whogivesashit Bowl in a few weeks.
GTFO......and now
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