Multi-stop training camps may return

[RoyTheHammer]

This argument is beyond retarded. Multi-city training camps have nothing to do with how good or bad we start a season. Minnesota had a similarly bad season and I doubt they are blaming it on where training camp was held. We have seen both success and failure while doing it and the sample size is too limited to blame it on our poor season. The problem was who ran training camp, not where. This is just something else for fans to bitch about, like they bitched about Hard Knocks because of how poor we did the previous time we did Hard Knocks. I don't care where they hold training camp so long as they are working hard.

Do you see anything positive football related from having your training camp held in two different locations?

Can't you see how it may be distracting to the players and coaches to be focusing on football and then in the middle of your preperations have to pick up and move everything to a different state, get set up again.. and then continue.

Don't you think there's probably a reason why very few (if any) other teams do this?

 

[Cythim]

I never said I was an advocate of doing so, it just doesn't matter in the big picture where training camp is held. Do you think the players had to do much of the moving between Cali and Texas? They started in San Antonio, played two games in Canton and Dallas, then finished in California. I'll bet between August 6th, when they left San Antonio, and August 14th, when they arrived in Oxnard, that the players and coaches did very little to facilitate the move between the two cities. They left one city to go and play two games and arrived at a different city to finish off training camp. There was no picking everything up, moving and setting up again for the players and coaches.

I'm not arguing the positives, I am telling you the negatives are mostly bullshit and it had nothing to do with our poor performance in 2010.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I never said I was an advocate of doing so, it just doesn't matter in the big picture where training camp is held. Do you think the players had to do much of the moving between Cali and Texas? They started in San Antonio, played two games in Canton and Dallas, then finished in California. I'll bet between August 6th, when they left San Antonio, and August 14th, when they arrived in Oxnard, that the players and coaches did very little to facilitate the move between the two cities. They left one city to go and play two games and arrived at a different city to finish off training camp. There was no picking everything up, moving and setting up again for the players and coaches.

I'm not arguing the positives, I am telling you the negatives are mostly bullshit and it had nothing to do with our poor performance in 2010.

I was simply asking if you saw any positives in it.. not instigating or thinking you didn't understand.

I just think being in one location is the way to go. No distractions, no moving halfway though to a different setting, no plane rides, no travel.. just get down to business and work on what needs to be done.

Certainly its not completely to blame for the way we played in 2010.. but it doesn't help to do it either.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think the whole Dallas media should decide to groan together in unison during Jerry's PCs when he says shit like this.

Jerry: "I wann split training camp again."

chorus from the media: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH"

 

[Midswat]

I think moving the training camps have a definite negative impact.

It throws off the entire routine.

You don't transplant an entire football team 500+ miles and not have an impact.

And the impact isn't positive.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think moving the training camps have a definite negative impact.

It throws off the entire routine.

You don't transplant an entire football team 500+ miles and not have an impact.

And the impact isn't positive.

Players don't like to travel during the season. So why would it be any different during training camp? You guys are getting me riled up lol

 

[Hostile]

Traveling during training camp only serves to allow the teams to get adjusted to traveling during the season itself.

We will have a clear advantage over the competition.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Traveling during training camp only serves to allow the teams to get adjusted to traveling during the season itself.

We will have a clear advantage over the competition.

lol lol lol

 

[sbk92]

I never said I was an advocate of doing so, it just doesn't matter in the big picture where training camp is held. Do you think the players had to do much of the moving between Cali and Texas? They started in San Antonio, played two games in Canton and Dallas, then finished in California. I'll bet between August 6th, when they left San Antonio, and August 14th, when they arrived in Oxnard, that the players and coaches did very little to facilitate the move between the two cities. They left one city to go and play two games and arrived at a different city to finish off training camp. There was no picking everything up, moving and setting up again for the players and coaches.

I'm not arguing the positives, I am telling you the negatives are mostly bullshit and it had nothing to do with our poor performance in 2010.

I don't agree. I think the split camp is a distraction you don't need when you're supposed to be laying the foundation for the new season.

Anything at all that distracts from that is a bad thing.

Jerry saying he won with it is besides the point. You had a dynasty team, moron. They overcame it. It didn't help them.

 

[Cythim]

I don't agree. I think the split camp is a distraction you don't need when you're supposed to be laying the foundation for the new season.

Anything at all that distracts from that is a bad thing.

Jerry saying he won with it is besides the point. You had a dynasty team, moron. They overcame it. It didn't help them.

I would never suggest that the travel helps. I am only saying the negative impact is insignificant. If we had only held camp in San Antonio or only Oxnard we would still start the season 1-7 and still finish the season 6-10. I am not advocating for Jerry to continue to split camp, I just think the amount of outcry over having done so is ridiculous.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I would never suggest that the travel helps. I am only saying the negative impact is insignificant. If we had only held camp in San Antonio or only Oxnard we would still start the season 1-7 and still finish the season 6-10. I am not advocating for Jerry to continue to split camp, I just think the amount of outcry over having done so is ridiculous.

If the negative impact was really insignificant.. all teams would do it because its great marketing and brings in dough.

As it is, most teams don't do it because most find it to be a distraction i would bet.

 

[Texas Ace]

Jerry Jones' stupidity and general lack of football intelligence is amazing.

How can you spend roughly 10 years around Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells and still come away this clueless when it comes to football matters?

The day when he is no longer in charge cannot get here fast enough.

 

[Sheik]

There is no positive impact. Zero. These players are being shipped around the United States like a circus every offseason and that's what this team has been of late. A F'ing circus.

Only impact from packing up and moving several hundred miles when the team should be focusing on football is a negative impact.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

This argument is beyond retarded. Multi-city training camps have nothing to do with how good or bad we start a season. Minnesota had a similarly bad season and I doubt they are blaming it on where training camp was held. We have seen both success and failure while doing it and the sample size is too limited to blame it on our poor season. The problem was who ran training camp, not where. This is just something else for fans to bitch about, like they bitched about Hard Knocks because of how poor we did the previous time we did Hard Knocks. I don't care where they hold training camp so long as they are working hard.

I was pissed about this article like everyone else, but you make a very convincing point. Would Wade have ran a better camp if we had not split them up? Doubtful. There were at least 12 other teams that finsihed as bad or worse than us, and they didn't travel. I must concur. If the Cowboys do well this year it will not be because of the multi-training camp locations as Jones suggest, and if the Cowboys suck it up, it will not be because of the multi-training camp locations as the knee-jerk fans suggest. This will all be on Garrett.

 

[LAZARUS_LOGAN]

I think moving the training camps have a definite negative impact.

It throws off the entire routine.

You don't transplant an entire football team 500+ miles and not have an impact.

And the impact isn't positive.

In that case though, how do you explain when the Cowboys went 13-3 in 2007?

 

[Midswat]

In that case though, how do you explain when the Cowboys went 13-3 in 2007?

You're missing the point.

No one is saying if you have training camp in two cities, you're destined to a 5-11 season.

What the gripe is, it is not in the best interest of the teams preparation for gamedays. So why do it?

It's done for marketing.

 

[Cr122]

You're missing the point.

No one is saying if you have training camp in two cities, you're destined to a 5-11 season.

What the gripe is, it is not in the best interest of the teams preparation for gamedays. So why do it?

It's done for marketing.

Ayuh, Jerruh loves the limelight.

 

[sbk92]

Ayuh, Jerruh loves the limelight.

This is what happens when your GM is the owner.

He has no respect for the process Jason Garrrett talks about in reference to putting together a winning football team. Everything is a show for Jerry. He's got the biggest ego I've ever seen in my life.