Miles Austin = Greatness

[Romo 2 Austin]

It seems odd this hate you have for Dez. It's almost like you believe you have to put him down to prop up Austin. You feel threatened that the guy you thought was the Cowboys' lead receiver maybe might not be anymore.

I root for them both on Sundays. They're both starting quality. Miles is more reliable. He's got a very good rapport with Romo. Dez is on a completely other level talent wise. If he even reaches 90% of his potential he's a much better receiver than Austin.

The Roy comment was nonsense. And I think you know that. Dez doesn't even have to practice this year. He can just show up on game days and out perform Roy.

I hate Roy as much as the next guy, but he's not this P.O.S receiver everyone makes him out to be. He's overpaid, and we traded too much for him but he's still a good #2 WR and would be a serviceable #1 in a desperate situation.

Dez will never be a "much better" WR than Austin, as to accomplish being much better than Miles he would be the best in the league by far. Miles is top 7 in the league, and I believe he will put in the work to improve. Dez I don't believe will put in the work to get to his potential...


Why? Maturity, one has worked his ass off to get onto a roster and become a super star, one has relied on his natural talent and then blew all his money from his big pay day in 1 year ... If Dez ever makes it too a second contract, I fully expect him to get fat and lazy after singing a huge money contract.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

???

One is one of the best route runners, seemingly mature & smart players in the league who is the same exact height, and has reportedly run a 4.29 40 before while Dez was timed at 4.52? What does Dez have on Miles physically, 8 pounds?


oh, and Dez is mentally retarded.


I wonder who has the brighter future. I doubt Dez will even beat out RW.

Dez has some of the best hands and body control in the league.

But only stupid Cowboy fans would choose sides between 2 players on the same team.

 

[sbk92]

Do you remember the first 5 weeks or so this year? Everyone and their mother was crowning Austin as the best WR in the league, then Romo got injured. He'll take the title this year.

I don't remember anyone crowing him the best WR during those five weeks.

Maybe we just hang with a different crowd.

Tell me, if he's all kick ass yee haw awesome, why is he so reliant on Romo to produce to that level?

Look what Calvin Johnson does in Detroit with a revolving door at QB. Now that's a real top 5 WR in the NFL.

Did Dez produce less when Romo went down? Uh, no.

 

[Romo 2 Austin]

Dez is much quicker and violent with his breaks and moves. Dez has already made 3 or 4 catches and runs after the catch that Miles could only dream about being able to do.

Have you seen the difference between the two with a football in their hands? Dez is a physical freak.

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Miles Austin cannot do that. Even on his best day.

Did you watch 2009?


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You all are acting like Miles is not one of the most physical WR's in the league..

 

[Sheik]

It seems odd this hate you have for Dez. It's almost like you believe you have to put him down to prop up Austin. You feel threatened that the guy you thought was the Cowboys' lead receiver maybe might not be anymore.

I root for them both on Sundays. They're both starting quality. Miles is more reliable. He's got a very good rapport with Romo. Dez is on a completely other level talent wise. If he even reaches 90% of his potential he's a much better receiver than Austin.

The Roy comment was nonsense. And I think you know that. Dez doesn't even have to practice this year. He can just show up on game days and out perform Roy.

He could take a year off from football(as he did the year before last with the suspension) and do the same.

 

[Romo 2 Austin]

I don't remember anyone crowing him the best WR during those five weeks.

Maybe we just hang with a different crowd.

Tell me, if he's all kick ass yee haw awesome, why is he so reliant on Romo to produce to that level?

Look what Calvin Johnson does in Detroit with a revolving door at QB. Now that's a real top 5 WR in the NFL.

Did Dez produce less when Romo went down? Uh, no.

Can't really compare as one was just learning the playbook and is a rookie, his production should increase over the year regardless. Kitna also doesn't have the same connection with Austin that Romo does. Austin was on track for over 1500 yards when Romo was under center...

 

[Sheik]

Did you watch 2009?


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You all are acting like Miles is not one of the most physical WR's in the league..

He had a really good 2009. He came back down to earth last year. I know the whole team did, but I think the real Miles Austin falls somewhere between 2009-2010. He's not going to pull down 10+ TDs a year and 1,300 rec yards. Especially with Dez on the same team.

If Dez keeps himself clean, he'll be the guy in this offense. No question. Austin will be lucky to average 60/900/7 a year.

 

[sbk92]

I hate Roy as much as the next guy, but he's not this P.O.S receiver everyone makes him out to be. He's overpaid, and we traded too much for him but he's still a good #2 WR and would be a serviceable #1 in a desperate situation.

He's not a POS, but he's also not a good #2 or serviceable #1. He also isn't even near the talent of Dez Bryant.

Dez will never be a "much better" WR than Austin, as to accomplish being much better than Miles he would be the best in the league by far. Miles is top 7 in the league, and I believe he will put in the work to improve. Dez I don't believe will put in the work to get to his potential...

Now Austin is top 7. A couple of hours ago he was top 5.

Add a 1 before that 7 and you'll be more accurate.

I agree. Dez might not put in the work to reach his full potential. But I don't think he would have to do that in order to be better than Miles Austin. IMO, he was already better last season. That's why he continued to make plays with Kitna at QB while Austin saw his production decline.

Why? Maturity, one has worked his ass off to get onto a roster and become a super star, one has relied on his natural talent and then blew all his money from his big pay day in 1 year ... If Dez ever makes it too a second contract, I fully expect him to get fat and lazy after singing a huge money contract.

Yeah. Preach to the choir. I expect Dez to be a full ****** his entire career. The guy is answer the iron stupid. I get it. But I don't think he needs to put together a hall of fame career to be better than Austin.

If you asked me to name the 10 best WRs in football, Miles Austin wouldn't be on the list. If you stretched that to 15, he probably still wouldn't be there.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

If Dez doesn't learn his routes, he's not going to get more catches than Miles Austin. Probably won't even approach his numbers.

You can't lead the team in anything if all you can run is the slant and endzone fade route.

 

[Romo 2 Austin]

He's not a POS, but he's also not a good #2 or serviceable #1. He also isn't even near the talent of Dez Bryant.




Now Austin is top 7. A couple of hours ago he was top 5.

Add a 1 before that 7 and you'll be more accurate.

I agree. Dez might not put in the work to reach his full potential. But I don't think he would have to do that in order to be better than Miles Austin. IMO, he was already better last season. That's why he continued to make plays with Kitna at QB while Austin saw his production decline.




Yeah. Preach to the choir. I expect Dez to be a full ****** his entire career. The guy is answer the iron stupid. I get it. But I don't think he needs to put together a hall of fame career to be better than Austin.

If you asked me to name the 10 best WRs in football, Miles Austin wouldn't be on the list. If you stretched that to 15, he probably still wouldn't be there.

Roy was highly praised coming out of college, in 7 years of ****** Dez continues to shine will you be questioning his football talent then? Roy is talented.. If you look through the NFL, i'd bet atleast 25 of the 32 teams he would atleast be a #2 on, and there are probably a few he would be #1, Seattle comes to mind.


Miles is top 5-7, easier to argue 7 so I go with it. He's a non issue off the field and he's a smart player, combined with his insane physical ability and connection with his QB, he'll be a force to be dealt with for us for atleast his entire 6 year contract.

 

[sbk92]

You all are acting like Miles is not one of the most physical WR's in the league..

Probably because he isn't one of the most physical WRs in the league.

 

[Romo 2 Austin]

Probably because he isn't one of the most physical WRs in the league.

He is.. He doesn't rely on speed and makes tough catches all the time, and didnt he lead the league in yards after catch in 09?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Why isn't Miles one of the most physical WRs in the league? Back up your statements, for once.

 

[Sheik]

If Dez doesn't learn his routes, he's not going to get more catches than Miles Austin. Probably won't even approach his numbers.

What makes you think that Dez won't learn the playbook? He's an idiot, but he's a football player. I don't think his football smarts are in question. He missed time early with injuries and never really healed up until he broke his ankle. He probably wasn't smart enough to take that time to study his playbook, he was out buying jewlery from what I understand.

It's year two. If he applies himself and Jimmy Robinson is his coach first, instead of enabler, I doubt we'll have to worry about his grasp of the offense.

I'd be will to bet if both Austin and Dez play 16 games this year, that Dez out performs him easily.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

What makes you think that Dez won't learn the playbook? He's an idiot, but he's a football player. I don't think his football smarts are in question. He missed time early with injuries and never really healed up until he broke his ankle. He probably wasn't smart enough to take that time to study his playbook, he was out buying jewlery from what I understand.

It's year two. If he applies himself and Jimmy Robinson is his coach first, instead of enabler, I doubt we'll have to worry about his grasp of the offense.

I'd be will to bet if both Austin and Dez play 16 games this year, that Dez out performs him easily.

I'm not saying he's not going to, I'm just saying if that he keeps on how he's been, he's not going to compete with Miles for catches, it's gonna be a blowout.

 

[Romo 2 Austin]

What makes you think that Dez won't learn the playbook? He's an idiot, but he's a football player. I don't think his football smarts are in question. He missed time early with injuries and never really healed up until he broke his ankle. He probably wasn't smart enough to take that time to study his playbook, he was out buying jewlery from what I understand.

It's year two. If he applies himself and Jimmy Robinson is his coach first, instead of enabler, I doubt we'll have to worry about his grasp of the offense.

I'd be will to bet if both Austin and Dez play 16 games this year, that Dez out performs him easily.

I'd take that bet, Miles is a player you can trust to show up on the field, Dez is a player you can trust to **** up off the field.

 

[Sheik]

I'd take that bet, Miles is a player you can trust to show up on the field, Dez is a player you can trust to **** up off the field.

Name it.

It's not likely both play 16 games, so we can come up with a better stipulation.

Maybe if one plays an extra game, you take away his smallest contribution, something like that.

I'm game.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I still haven't seen explained why most of Miles' catches and big plays are going to go away from him this year? With all the attention last year, he still had no problems being one of the best short-field receivers in the league and still beating teams over the top with Romo throwing the football.

And you guys are forgetting that Romo is huge on trust. He only throws to guys who show up everyday and run exact routes. It's why Roy has been a non-factor for 2 plus years.

 

[Romo 2 Austin]

Name it.

It's not likely both play 16 games, so we can come up with a better stipulation.

Maybe if one plays an extra game, you take away his smallest contribution, something like that.

I'm game.

Let's do it closer to the season, its too far out. But i'm not betting money

 

[sbk92]

Roy was highly praised coming out of college, in 7 years of ****** Dez continues to shine will you be questioning his football talent then? Roy is talented..


Miles is top 5-7, easier to argue 7 so I go with it. He's a non issue off the field and he's a smart player, combined with his insane physical ability and connection with his QB, he'll be a force to be dealt with for us for atleast his entire 6 year contract.

Roy was a high draft pick, so that has to mean what exactly? Are we judging Roy by his draft status or his extensive body of work in the NFL? He's not a projection anymore. Dez still is. He's a pup. Roy has shown you what he is.

And I agree. Not the POS fans claim. He can help an offense. But you can't compare him to a super freak like Dez Bryant. It's just laughably wrong.

Dez got suspended, sat out an entire year, had poor workouts and major off field concerns and still was a first round pick. There's a reason for that.

You cling tight to that top 7 theory.

Here are the WRs I'd take over Austin right now. This is just off the top of my head.

Calvin Johnson
Andre Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Reggie Wayne
Roddy White
DeSean Jackson
Hakeem Nicks
Santonio Holmes
Dwayne Bowe
Anquan Boldin
Greg Jennings
Brandon Marshall
Dez Bryant
Mike Wallace
Jeremy Maclin
Steve Smith - Carolina

You can probably add Wes Welker to the list but I won't because he's white.