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Cythim said:
Drunk drivers never intend to kill anyone but that shouldn't absolve them from their crime.
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That's different, drunk driving killing and just killing are two different things.

Does a drunk say he's getting drunk and is getting in a car to go kill someone?

Now, a killer already has it in his mind to kill.
 
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Cr122 said:
That's different, drunk driving killing and just killing are two different things.

Does a drunk say he's getting drunk and is getting in a car to go kill someone?

Now, a killer already has it in his mind to kill.
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Not neccessarily true.

Prosecutors, detectives, etc often times try to determine if a crime was pre-meditated murder.

For example, a person who gets into a fist fight, and hits another man so hard that his head bounces off the pavement and dies as a result. Is the man who threw the punch a killer? Did he intend to kill? Is that comparable to a man who lurks outside a womans bedroom window, only to break in and slash her throat?

Both are killers. One had the intent to kill. Not the other.
 
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Not neccessarily true.

Prosecutors, detectives, etc often times try to determine if a crime was pre-meditated murder.

For example, a person who gets into a fist fight, and hits another man so hard that his head bounces off the pavement and dies as a result. Is the man who threw the punch a killer? Did he intend to kill? Is that comparable to a man who lurks outside a womans bedroom window, only to break in and slash her throat?

Both are killers. One had the intent to kill. Not the other.
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Okay, so you admit Vick intended on killing these dogs?
 
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Okay, so you admit Vick intended on killing these dogs?
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Did I ever deny that Vick intended to kill those dogs?

I don't think you can point a gun to a dogs head and pull the trigger, and not intend to kill the dog.
 
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To be clear, I'm in no way supporting Vick. I think he's human trash, to the core. And I wouldn't even consider him for MVP either.
 
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Did I ever deny that Vick intended to kill those dogs?

I don't think you can point a gun to a dogs head and pull the trigger, and not intend to kill the dog.
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I see your point, but it's not the only way Vick killed dogs.
 
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Cythim said:
Drunk drivers never intend to kill anyone but that shouldn't absolve them from their crime.
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No.

But when you're talking about character, I find it completely different to be a moron and get in an accident than I do someone who practices torture.
 
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He is a scumbag, no doubt. He did his time and is moving on. I don't like him nor ever did.

Sure, he should get some votes for MVP, that is fine. Brady is the NFL's MVP for this season. So, it doesn't matter.
 
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Cr122 said:
That's different, drunk driving killing and just killing are two different things.

Does a drunk say he's getting drunk and is getting in a car to go kill someone?

Now, a killer already has it in his mind to kill.
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No.

But when you're talking about character, I find it completely different to be a moron and get in an accident than I do someone who practices torture.
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Most drunk drivers are repeat offenders. Lenard Little is a great example of this, after already killing someone he gets caught driving drunk again. This shows very little respect for human life.
 
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