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Ware and Church were both held. No call. Three plays later we get called for pass interference.

I'm not worried. I know nothing will get done about it.
 

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Yep, I was bitching about that during the game. We hardly get any breaks. Hey, if you want to contain Ware, just hold'em.
 

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I'm not one to bitch about the refs and how we're treated unfairly, but I'd like to see the stats on uncalled holding penalties around the league.

We get held all the damn time and a lot of them are right in the refs face and yet we get nothing.
 

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I'm not one to bitch about the refs and how we're treated unfairly, but I'd like to see the stats on uncalled holding penalties around the league.

We get held all the damn time and a lot of them are right in the refs face and yet we get nothing.


I understand that calls get missed --- interesting as to how they are more missed with the Cowboys, but when they are right in front of you (refs)... that is a level of incompetence that cannot be brushed aside as mere incompetence.
 

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I understand that calls get missed --- interesting as to how they are more missed with the Cowboys, but when they are right in front of you (refs)... that is a level of incompetence that cannot be brushed aside as mere incompetence.

On the Victor Cruz 70 yard score, Scandrick was grabbed around the shoulders and the ref was looking right at him and didn't call shit.

I have no idea how you don't throw a flag there.
 

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I'll openly admit I think the refs have a bias against us.

I don't like making excuses for many things, but I will make an excuse there.

If Jerry wasn't so worried about selling merchanise and booking shows then maybe he could do something about it. He's a powerful man and these guys have other jobs. I'm talking about getting them fired from them. I'm dead serious. If not that, pull some strings to make their lives miserable. They have a business? Open one up and make their life hell. If they want to screw us over then fuck them.
 
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Personally, I think there should be a press conference every Wednesday in New York where Goodell and any officials that missed a call have to sit there, show the replay of the call they missed, talk about how much the ref's fine is, and then answer questions from the media.

Coaches and players have their fines and mistakes made public so why not the officials and the League? I think with more accountability there would be more pressure on the officials to get the calls right.
 

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Refs should be fined when they miss blatant shit and get the calls wrong.

Refs have too much of a role in outcomes of games. It's bullshit that some faggy part timer can decide a game.
 

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In high school, parents and coaches are so bad that everyone assumes they are out of control and the refs get a pass on everything. There are some refs who are so old and lazy that they don't even try and are arrogant as crap. There are also a lot of good refs who try hard and just make mistakes. The issue is, that when you try to discuss how horrible certain refs are they just dismiss you. So I went back through all of the game film and put together a "highlight" reel of this one jerk official. They apologized and agreed to never assign him to our league again. I saw him a few weeks later working at another high school game and I actually saw effort from him.

Sorry for the Hostile-like story but I always thought the officials should be as accountable as everyone else. People perform better when they know there are true consequences (see The Dallas Cowboys).
 

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Ware and Church were both held. No call. Three plays later we get called for pass interference.

I'm not worried. I know nothing will get done about it.


To be honest, this was far from being the worse no-call holding against Ware. The most blatant one I've seen was when two years back Trent Williams of the Redskins literally shoe-stringed tackled Ware right in front of TWO REFS and no call. Ware was livid, and I remember Gruden even commenting on that play as to how it is unbelievable as to how two refs can be in that vicinity and not "see" that. The cameras showed that both were looking at the tackle.
 

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I would be in both of their faces after the game if I'm Garrett. No handshake, I would go right to the officials.
 

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I'll openly admit I think the refs have a bias against us.

I don't like making excuses for many things, but I will make an excuse there.

If Jerry wasn't so worried about selling merchanise and booking shows then maybe he could do something about it. He's a powerful man and these guys have other jobs. I'm talking about getting them fired from them. I'm dead serious. If not that, pull some strings to make their lives miserable. They have a business? Open one up and make their life hell. If they want to screw us over then fuck them.

They just now started calling roughing the passer for Romo. I think Jerry got on them as in the NFL organization. The Cowboys are a money-maker for the NFL, and Romo is a money-maker for the Cowboys.
 

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Yes they did. Before this season he had 1 (one) in this entire career. I think he has like 2 this season.

Fucking. Ridiculous.
 

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Ware and Church were both held. No call. Three plays later we get called for pass interference.

I'm not worried. I know nothing will get done about it.

Nope. It will never change.

I bet Ware has a higher % if plays where he is obviously held than any other quality DE/pass rushing OLB in the modern history of the game.
 

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To be honest, this was far from being the worse no-call holding against Ware. The most blatant one I've seen was when two years back Trent Williams of the Redskins literally shoe-stringed tackled Ware right in front of TWO REFS and no call. Ware was livid, and I remember Gruden even commenting on that play as to how it is unbelievable as to how two refs can be in that vicinity and not "see" that. The cameras showed that both were looking at the tackle.

That's actually not the only time Ware has been held like that either.
 
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