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#1 IN THE NFC EAST... and we're going to stay there. From getting the game ball to getting the BENCH.
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#1 IN THE NFC EAST... and we're going to stay there. From getting the game ball to getting the BENCH.
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Yo, the league better test #93 and #40 Laron Landry. Those dudes are roiding for sure.
Unreal . . .
I'm so tired of hearing how the Redskins "disrespected" McNabb. How McNabb "deserved" to start the rest of the season.
And now, this morning on the Monday Morning QB show with Kevin Sheehan and Andy Polan, Any Polan suggested there might be a "racial element" to this.
Fucking ridiculous.
I'm so tired of hearing how the Redskins "disrespected" McNabb. How McNabb "deserved" to start the rest of the season.
And now, this morning on the Monday Morning QB show with Kevin Sheehan and Andy Polan, Any Polan suggested there might be a "racial element" to this.
Fucking ridiculous.
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And #98. There was a rumor about him.
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C'mon are you serious, they said this?
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I think the Skins will draft another QB with their first pick.
Probably Cam Newton, or if Mallet falls.
Probably Cam Newton, or if Mallet falls.
Yes.
To be fair, Kevin Sheehan shut it down pretty quick. But the fact that it was even suggested was an absolute joke.
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That's just ridiculous, really.
Roster analysis: Redskins have plenty of cost-cutting options
By J.I. Halsell
At first, it seemed as though Donovan McNabb's November contract extension was was bringing clarity to his future. But with his benching over the final three games of the season, the veteran quarterback's future is once again uncertain.
What is absolutely certain is that if McNabb is listed as the team's third quarterback for the final two games of the season, he will lose $31,250 for each of those games, because his contract contains a per-game roster bonus provision that is contingent upon him being on the 45-man active roster.
McNabb isn't the only Redskin who may not be in Washington in 2011. By terminating or trading the following players between now and June 1, 2011, the Redskins can save the following amounts of accounted money on a possible salary cap:
? RB Clinton Portis: -$5,645,500
? LB London Fletcher: -$4,900,000
? QB Donovan McNabb: -$4,750,000
? CB DeAngelo Hall: -$4,400,000
? DT Albert Haynesworth: -$3,400,000
? C Casey Rabach: -$3,000,000
? NT Ma'ake Kemoeatu: -$2,500,000
? OG Derrick Dockery: -$1,565,000
? DE Adam Carriker: -$1,420,000
? OG Artis Hicks: -$1,400,000
? DE Phillip Daniels: -$1,250,000
? DE Vonnie Holliday: -$1,250,000
? TE Fred Davis: -$555,000
? DE Andre Carter: $2,909,998
The Redskins have $97.6 million in team salary accounted for in 2011; this, of course, does not account for 2011 free agent signings or draft picks, nor incentives earned by 2010 performance. While it is unlikely that the entire group of players listed above will be released or traded by June 1, the group accounts for $33.1 million of cap savings.
If the Redskins release or trade Andre Carter, then the net difference of his before and after team salary number is actually an increase of $2.9 million. This results from the multiple restructurings of his contract that pushed money out into future years.
Fred Davis is curiously listed above because he's a player with legitimate trade value. Davis -- a non-factor for the majority of the season -- has shown flashes of his potential, particularly in 2009, when he filled in for an injured Chris Cooley. As Davis enters the final year of his rookie contract, the Redskins could trade the athletic tight end for a draft pick(s), and in return, Davis's new team receives a bargain in his base salary of $555,000.
A native Washingtonian, J.I. Halsell spent two seasons as a salary cap analyst for the Washington Redskins. Prior to his tenure in Washington, he spent two years working in the NFL Management Council, and now pens a blog entitled "Under the Cap" for FootballOutsiders.com. Follow him on Twitter at @SalaryCap101.
By J.I. Halsell
At first, it seemed as though Donovan McNabb's November contract extension was was bringing clarity to his future. But with his benching over the final three games of the season, the veteran quarterback's future is once again uncertain.
What is absolutely certain is that if McNabb is listed as the team's third quarterback for the final two games of the season, he will lose $31,250 for each of those games, because his contract contains a per-game roster bonus provision that is contingent upon him being on the 45-man active roster.
McNabb isn't the only Redskin who may not be in Washington in 2011. By terminating or trading the following players between now and June 1, 2011, the Redskins can save the following amounts of accounted money on a possible salary cap:
? RB Clinton Portis: -$5,645,500
? LB London Fletcher: -$4,900,000
? QB Donovan McNabb: -$4,750,000
? CB DeAngelo Hall: -$4,400,000
? DT Albert Haynesworth: -$3,400,000
? C Casey Rabach: -$3,000,000
? NT Ma'ake Kemoeatu: -$2,500,000
? OG Derrick Dockery: -$1,565,000
? DE Adam Carriker: -$1,420,000
? OG Artis Hicks: -$1,400,000
? DE Phillip Daniels: -$1,250,000
? DE Vonnie Holliday: -$1,250,000
? TE Fred Davis: -$555,000
? DE Andre Carter: $2,909,998
The Redskins have $97.6 million in team salary accounted for in 2011; this, of course, does not account for 2011 free agent signings or draft picks, nor incentives earned by 2010 performance. While it is unlikely that the entire group of players listed above will be released or traded by June 1, the group accounts for $33.1 million of cap savings.
If the Redskins release or trade Andre Carter, then the net difference of his before and after team salary number is actually an increase of $2.9 million. This results from the multiple restructurings of his contract that pushed money out into future years.
Fred Davis is curiously listed above because he's a player with legitimate trade value. Davis -- a non-factor for the majority of the season -- has shown flashes of his potential, particularly in 2009, when he filled in for an injured Chris Cooley. As Davis enters the final year of his rookie contract, the Redskins could trade the athletic tight end for a draft pick(s), and in return, Davis's new team receives a bargain in his base salary of $555,000.
A native Washingtonian, J.I. Halsell spent two seasons as a salary cap analyst for the Washington Redskins. Prior to his tenure in Washington, he spent two years working in the NFL Management Council, and now pens a blog entitled "Under the Cap" for FootballOutsiders.com. Follow him on Twitter at @SalaryCap101.
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Considering there is no cap right now, you can write the same article for all 32 teams. Everybody has plenty of cost cutting options right now if they really want to go that route.
BTW, London Fletcher is probably their best player. I hope they're dumb enough to get rid of him.
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I figured that. But I should have specified that I was wanting info as to what players that potentially will be cut and their dollar amount.
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Report: McNabb to ask Redskins for release
Report: McNabb to ask Redskins for release
A source tells ESPN's Adam Schefter that Donovan McNabb will ask for his release after the season.
The team is unlikely to honor the veteran's request, as they still believe he holds trade value. There will be plenty of teams looking for quarterbacks this offseason, but McNabb's $10 million option bonus may be too much for any suitor to swallow. McNabb will not be back in Washington for 2011. Dec. 26 - 11:48 am et
Source: ESPN.com
Report: McNabb to ask Redskins for release
A source tells ESPN's Adam Schefter that Donovan McNabb will ask for his release after the season.
The team is unlikely to honor the veteran's request, as they still believe he holds trade value. There will be plenty of teams looking for quarterbacks this offseason, but McNabb's $10 million option bonus may be too much for any suitor to swallow. McNabb will not be back in Washington for 2011. Dec. 26 - 11:48 am et
Source: ESPN.com
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What trade value? After the season he has had, and the way you guys disrespected him, then telling him if he stays, it will be as a backup, and then the $16 million you'll have to pay him next season if you keep him? All teams have to do is sit and wait the Redskins out.
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Report: Redskins defensive tackle Joe Joseph arrested
Report: Redskins defensive tackle Joe Joseph arrested
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 27, 2010, 2:12 PM EST
Washington’s first win in more than a month didn’t come without a little drama.
Redskins defensive tackle Joe Joseph was arrested for DUI Monday morning at 3 a.m. according to Jason Reid of the Washington Post. The team activated Joseph from its practice squad Friday and he played in Sunday’s victory in Jacksonville.
Based on the usual NFL coaching sliding scale of punishment-to-production, Joseph will probably get cut. If he recorded two sacks against the Jaguars, he’d get a stern lecture.
[Note: We couldn't find any pictures of Joseph, so enjoy this one of Philip Buchanon and Rashad Jennings
Report: Redskins defensive tackle Joe Joseph arrested
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 27, 2010, 2:12 PM EST
Washington’s first win in more than a month didn’t come without a little drama.
Redskins defensive tackle Joe Joseph was arrested for DUI Monday morning at 3 a.m. according to Jason Reid of the Washington Post. The team activated Joseph from its practice squad Friday and he played in Sunday’s victory in Jacksonville.
Based on the usual NFL coaching sliding scale of punishment-to-production, Joseph will probably get cut. If he recorded two sacks against the Jaguars, he’d get a stern lecture.
[Note: We couldn't find any pictures of Joseph, so enjoy this one of Philip Buchanon and Rashad Jennings
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Updated: December 28, 2010, 2:05 PM ET
Donovan McNabb defends agent
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ASHBURN, Va. -- Donovan McNabb sees "nothing wrong" with an inflammatory statement in which his agent attacked Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.
Yet McNabb also tried to distance himself from that statement Tuesday in his weekly radio appearance on ESPN980. McNabb said he wasn't aware that his agent was planning to release the statement before it came out last week.
"He put his thoughts into the whole deal, not Donovan's thoughts," McNabb said.
McNabb was making his most extensive comments since his tit-for-tat with the Shanahans escalated when agent Fletcher Smith released the statement last Thursday. The quarterback, who repeatedly has avoided answering questions in the past few days, did little to clear the air, continuing in his attempt to play the good cop to Smith's bad cop.
"I support my agent," McNabb said, "and I support his thoughts. ... When I read the whole thing, I didn't see nothing wrong with it."
Smith's statement cited tension between McNabb and Kyle Shanahan, the coach's son. It was released a week after Mike Shanahan announced he was benching McNabb in favor of Rex Grossman for the final three games of the season because the Redskins (6-9) had been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
Mike Shanahan countered with a statement in response to Smith. Kyle Shanahan spoke the following day, disputing many of Smith's claims. Smith then released yet another statement, standing by his original statement.
On his radio show, McNabb said he has met with Kyle Shanahan and that "we're both on the same page." McNabb then said several things to indicate perhaps he and the Shanahans aren't on the same page. He reiterated his concern over leaks that paint him as unable to grasp the offense.
"When you hear things like that, you begin to question where it's coming from," McNabb said.
McNabb labeled "false" ESPN's report that he plans to ask for his release at the end of the season -- although that doesn't rule out Smith asking for McNabb's release. McNabb also repeated his desire to play for the Redskins again next season, but with a caveat.
"Things would obviously have to change," McNabb said. "The relationship would have to be better. Conversations would have to be better."
McNabb indicated a big step regarding his future will come when Smith and Mike Shanahan meet face to face in the coming weeks. He said it wouldn't be "professional" if the Redskins decide to wait until late summer to release him.
Asked if he trusts the people at Redskins Park, McNabb hedged.
"Building a trust takes time," he said.
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
Donovan McNabb defends agent
Associated Press
ASHBURN, Va. -- Donovan McNabb sees "nothing wrong" with an inflammatory statement in which his agent attacked Washington Redskins coach Mike Shanahan and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan.
Yet McNabb also tried to distance himself from that statement Tuesday in his weekly radio appearance on ESPN980. McNabb said he wasn't aware that his agent was planning to release the statement before it came out last week.
"He put his thoughts into the whole deal, not Donovan's thoughts," McNabb said.
McNabb was making his most extensive comments since his tit-for-tat with the Shanahans escalated when agent Fletcher Smith released the statement last Thursday. The quarterback, who repeatedly has avoided answering questions in the past few days, did little to clear the air, continuing in his attempt to play the good cop to Smith's bad cop.
"I support my agent," McNabb said, "and I support his thoughts. ... When I read the whole thing, I didn't see nothing wrong with it."
Smith's statement cited tension between McNabb and Kyle Shanahan, the coach's son. It was released a week after Mike Shanahan announced he was benching McNabb in favor of Rex Grossman for the final three games of the season because the Redskins (6-9) had been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs.
Mike Shanahan countered with a statement in response to Smith. Kyle Shanahan spoke the following day, disputing many of Smith's claims. Smith then released yet another statement, standing by his original statement.
On his radio show, McNabb said he has met with Kyle Shanahan and that "we're both on the same page." McNabb then said several things to indicate perhaps he and the Shanahans aren't on the same page. He reiterated his concern over leaks that paint him as unable to grasp the offense.
"When you hear things like that, you begin to question where it's coming from," McNabb said.
McNabb labeled "false" ESPN's report that he plans to ask for his release at the end of the season -- although that doesn't rule out Smith asking for McNabb's release. McNabb also repeated his desire to play for the Redskins again next season, but with a caveat.
"Things would obviously have to change," McNabb said. "The relationship would have to be better. Conversations would have to be better."
McNabb indicated a big step regarding his future will come when Smith and Mike Shanahan meet face to face in the coming weeks. He said it wouldn't be "professional" if the Redskins decide to wait until late summer to release him.
Asked if he trusts the people at Redskins Park, McNabb hedged.
"Building a trust takes time," he said.
Copyright 2010 by The Associated Press
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I would of put this in the lol@The Redskins Thread, but hey.
DeSean Jackson questions Vick's decision not to spike the ball
By Chris Chase
Philadelphia Eagles star wideout DeSean Jackson(notes) questioned Michael Vick's(notes) decision to run a play rather than spike the ball with Philly driving for a potential game-winning touchdown with 44 seconds remaining in Sunday's NFC wild-card game. Vick ended up throwing an interception into the end zone on the first-down play, sealing a victory for the visiting Green Bay Packers.
Said Jackson of Vick's choice to throw rather than stop the clock (via Philly.com):
"I just felt, the last couple of plays, we just kind of rushed it. We didn't really have to rush it. We had 40 seconds, or whatever. We could have downed the ball and regrouped and just come back and not rushed it."
(In case it wasn't clear, when Jackson says "we" he means "Vick.")
The intended target of the pass, Riley Cooper(notes), agreed in principle with his receiving mate, but didn't engage in the not-so-subtle finger-pointing:
"There was no huddle. After I caught that slant [on the play before], coming back, I thought he was going to spike the ball, stop the clock. But he didn't - not a big deal. He called 'all go' and that's what we ran. What happened, happened. It's over."
Vick wasn't having any part of it. "Clock it for what?" he asked. "[You] take a shot downfield."
I'm solidly on Vick's side on this one. Four downs are better than three. Way too many teams get up to the line with time running out and waste a down by spiking it when they'd be better served calling a play and trying to get a chunk of yardage toward the end zone or the first-down marker. Vick made the right choice to push ahead with the drive. It's simple math: 4 > 3.
The problem wasn't in not spiking, but in throwing the pass to Cooper. Vick shouldn't have forced the ball to the young receiver, not when Cooper was pressed on the sideline in tight coverage by Tramon Williams(notes) and not in a situation that didn't need to be forced. Throwing it was the right move at that point. You took your shot by calling a play, it didn't happen, so cut your losses and move on to second down. It's like a spike, with a few more seconds running off the clock.
Just like the Saints failing to convert a crucial fourth-and-inches in Saturday's wild-card game, the issue was with the execution, not the decision. It's always easy to bash a choice that fails. Sometimes a failed decision is still the correct one.
To his credit, Vick admitted his mistake (via PFT):
"I took a shot at the end zone. I could have checked it down to the back. I got greedy and took a shot at the end zone. I didn't throw the right ball that I wanted to and it got picked out. It was a bad way to go out, but at least I went out swinging ... It's hindsight now. It's something I have to learn from."
What's DeSean Jackson doing complaining anyway? He only had two catches in the game and missed most of the first half after bruising his knee. When he returned, he looked as fresh as ever.
By Chris Chase
Philadelphia Eagles star wideout DeSean Jackson(notes) questioned Michael Vick's(notes) decision to run a play rather than spike the ball with Philly driving for a potential game-winning touchdown with 44 seconds remaining in Sunday's NFC wild-card game. Vick ended up throwing an interception into the end zone on the first-down play, sealing a victory for the visiting Green Bay Packers.
Said Jackson of Vick's choice to throw rather than stop the clock (via Philly.com):
"I just felt, the last couple of plays, we just kind of rushed it. We didn't really have to rush it. We had 40 seconds, or whatever. We could have downed the ball and regrouped and just come back and not rushed it."
(In case it wasn't clear, when Jackson says "we" he means "Vick.")
The intended target of the pass, Riley Cooper(notes), agreed in principle with his receiving mate, but didn't engage in the not-so-subtle finger-pointing:
"There was no huddle. After I caught that slant [on the play before], coming back, I thought he was going to spike the ball, stop the clock. But he didn't - not a big deal. He called 'all go' and that's what we ran. What happened, happened. It's over."
Vick wasn't having any part of it. "Clock it for what?" he asked. "[You] take a shot downfield."
I'm solidly on Vick's side on this one. Four downs are better than three. Way too many teams get up to the line with time running out and waste a down by spiking it when they'd be better served calling a play and trying to get a chunk of yardage toward the end zone or the first-down marker. Vick made the right choice to push ahead with the drive. It's simple math: 4 > 3.
The problem wasn't in not spiking, but in throwing the pass to Cooper. Vick shouldn't have forced the ball to the young receiver, not when Cooper was pressed on the sideline in tight coverage by Tramon Williams(notes) and not in a situation that didn't need to be forced. Throwing it was the right move at that point. You took your shot by calling a play, it didn't happen, so cut your losses and move on to second down. It's like a spike, with a few more seconds running off the clock.
Just like the Saints failing to convert a crucial fourth-and-inches in Saturday's wild-card game, the issue was with the execution, not the decision. It's always easy to bash a choice that fails. Sometimes a failed decision is still the correct one.
To his credit, Vick admitted his mistake (via PFT):
"I took a shot at the end zone. I could have checked it down to the back. I got greedy and took a shot at the end zone. I didn't throw the right ball that I wanted to and it got picked out. It was a bad way to go out, but at least I went out swinging ... It's hindsight now. It's something I have to learn from."
What's DeSean Jackson doing complaining anyway? He only had two catches in the game and missed most of the first half after bruising his knee. When he returned, he looked as fresh as ever.